Barack Obama

[jimnaseum]

Yeah, let's put these guys in charge.

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by jimnaseum

Yeah, let's put these guys in charge.

I don't get the Hannity/Eddie comparison. They both have black hair? Is that it? And I think Coulter looks more like a hippie that grew up into one of your liberal congresswomen.

[transjen]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

I don't get the Hannity/Eddie comparison. They both have black hair? Is that it? And I think Coulter looks more like a hippie that grew up into one of your liberal congresswomen.

I still say Hannity looks like a grown up Eddie Monster and for Coulter growing up into a hippie liberal that would be her worst and scarest nightmare but funny to everyone else
Jerseygirl Jen

[transjen]

Question- how much money does the goverment shell out on serect service to protect the Carters, Bushs, Clinton's, Bush's?
Ok Hillary being the sitting sec of state so i can see the need for secert service protection but if she wasn't why are we spending all this money? I mean really they are former presidents and not in danger like they were when they were in office, When has anyone ever took a shot at a former president? I just feel these are resources and money that could be better spent elsewhere if they feel they need secert service protection still then let them pick up the tab. Just something to think about
Jerseygirl Jen

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by transjen

Question- how much money does the goverment shell out on serect service to protect the Carters, Bushs, Clinton's, Bush's?

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I just feel these are resources and money that could be better spent elsewhere if they feel they need secert service protection still then let them pick up the tab. Just something to think about
Jerseygirl Jen

$1.5 billion/year, or about .075% of the money Obama wasted on BS spending programs. Think about that.

[transjen]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

$1.5 billion/year, or about .075% of the money Obama wasted on BS spending programs. Think about that.

Is that 1'5 billion the total for all the former presidents or is that 1.5 for each? but regauardless why should the tax payers keep them with secert service no one is going to waste there time trying to knock off a former president come on Carter left office in 81 Bush in 92 Clinton in 01 and W in 09 no terrorist will think or even try to knock one off them off only the sitting president is in any real danger the money wasted on the former presidents would be better spent elsewhere.


And how does Obama spending more money else where make spend the 1.5 billion guarding former presidents ok?The GOP keep yelling for the president to trim the bufget well here a 1.5 billion dollar trim

[CreativeMind]

Originally Posted by transjen

but regauardless why should the tax payers keep them with secert service no one is going to waste there time trying to knock off a former president come on Carter left office in 81 Bush in 92 Clinton in 01 and W in 09 no terrorist will think or even try to knock one off them off only the sitting president is in any real danger the money wasted on the former presidents would be better spent elsewhere.

Why would anyone want to "waste their time" trying to topple two twin towers filled with civilians? For the exact same reason -- it's a symbolic strike against America and, if successful, would instantly make WORLD news and give immediate credibility and notoriety to any terrorist organization that successfully pulled off such a thing.

And, Jen, just as an FYI -- the Secret Service deals with constant threats to ex-Presidents on a DAILY basis...in fact, often to their immediate family members TOO, who potentially could be even easier targets...which is why they are also kept under watch and given protection for life. I mean, come on, let's be honest here. Regardless of whether it was a Republican or Democrat in office, the sheer act of BEING President of the United States... and of holding the most powerful office in the world... is literally THE most exclusive club that any person could ever be in.

Originally Posted by transjen

And how does Obama spending more money elsewhere make spend the 1.5 billion guarding former presidents ok? The GOP keep yelling for the president to trim the bufget well here a 1.5 billion dollar trim

Unfortunately, once you've sat in the Oval Office, you will also be a potential target for the rest of your life -- hence the reason that BOTH sides of the political aisle in Congress has ALWAYS approved the budget and provided constant security to not only the current sitting President, but former ones as well...with absolutely no questions asked. In short: this is simply one of those things that is NOT open for debate regarding the budgetary costs, and this is simply one of those very rare things where Congress (both sides of the aisle) will NEVER look to trim costs, out of sheer respect for whoever held that office.

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by transjen

Is that 1'5 billion the total for all the former presidents or is that 1.5 for each?

Total

Originally Posted by transjen

but regauardless why should the tax payers keep them with secert service no one is going to waste there time trying to knock off a former president come on Carter left office in 81 Bush in 92 Clinton in 01 and W in 09 no terrorist will think or even try to knock one off them off only the sitting president is in any real danger the money wasted on the former presidents would be better spent elsewhere.

Saddam tried to kill Bush Sr. after he left office. In theory, any enemies a president makes while in office is in the course of defending the constitution and acting in the best interests of the USA (I mean, can you imagine a president doing something that most Americans oppose? Crazy I know). It's only right that tax payers return the favor by protecting the president, current or not, from those enemies.

Originally Posted by transjen

And how does Obama spending more money else where make spend the 1.5 billion guarding former presidents ok?The GOP keep yelling for the president to trim the bufget well here a 1.5 billion dollar trim

Because the point is trimming the budget. It's silly to worry about a $1.5 billion expense when over $2 trillion was just thrown away. The problem is the mindset that blew that $2 trillion is still in Washington on the verge of blowing another several trillion on healthcare reform.

What your suggesting is like using a teaspoon to bail out water shooting up from a baseball-sized hole in the bottom of a boat.