Thoughts on UFO's??

[johndowe]

Hi there.

I saw them 3 times and i had to mind my dog and i kept my eyes on them in between making sure my dog wasn't straying and one time they were there then the next they weren't i have no idea how they came on went, but they didn't stay very long a few minutes, and as i already said, report what to whome? The cops? Hey officer i saw some little grey guys. Hey dude this guy saw some lepricons...

Also, ever see the movie "Dances with wolves" where Kevin Costner's character befreinds a lone wolf by feeding it a bit and using it's sences and INSTINCTS to his advantage?

Any way if you don't believe, don't believe, i described what i saw, maby i hallucinated the whole thing, but a never did hallucinegenics, didn't drink much, and never on those nights, haven't done drugs in years, i don't think there is much to add.

JohnDowe.

[johndowe]

Hi there.

Jenae, you may be many things, but off the cuff witty, not one of them, i was hoping YOU would have ansewered something like this:

Big joke? Did you see your avatar lately? and aren't you the one that's always cracking some one liners filled with rhymes, double entendres, and sarcasm?

Thinking about it later, is not off the cuff!

If i wanted someone to write jokes with you wouldn't be my first choice, nor my tenth, but, if i needed some facts or some statistics, then you'd be my first choice, as the pics on your post attest to.

And don't be offended, i didn't mean this in a bad way, i just meant that everyone is different and has their stong points and their weak points, and it IS a good thing to know where we excel and were we don't.

And that question has been posed to me several times and my ansewer has always been roughly the same:

Life IS a big joke, unfortunately, it isn't always funny.

JohnDowe.

[Tread]

Originally Posted by johndowe

I saw them 3 times and i had to mind my dog and i kept my eyes on them in between making sure my dog wasn't straying and one time they were there then the next they weren't i have no idea how they came on went, but they didn't stay very long a few minutes, and as i already said, report what to whome? The cops? Hey officer i saw some little grey guys. Hey dude this guy saw some lepricons...

I wasn't talking of reporting, but self investigating.
I'm open to strange sightings, but search for a logical explanation, like hundreds of years old and most not believed stories about freak waves or ball-lightning's. It's your behaviour that I don't belief and out of that your story.
I see every night glowing little beings or small clouds that move totally unnatural at the same place, but I never took a minute to walk around the fence to take a closer look.
Every morning I see 50cm (20inch) big humanoid footsteps in my garden, but I never had the effort to watch who made these.
In my pool lives a Plesiosauria that jumps up and catches flying ducks, but I don't care about it, never told one or took a picture.

I don't want to sound mean or rude, but this shows how I see your story.

Originally Posted by johndowe

Also, ever see the movie "Dances with wolves" where Kevin Costner's character befreinds a lone wolf by feeding it a bit and using it's sences and INSTINCTS to his advantage?

No. I don't meant wild wolves, I meant pet dogs, like TheAngryPostman described. But I would never generally say that animals have good instincts. Ever saw someone watch an ant or a snail and heard the person say: WOW! What great instinct it has? Or remember the epic instinct of the Dodo?

[The Conquistador]

Originally Posted by Tread

Ever saw someone watch an ant or a snail and heard the person say: WOW! What great instinct it has? Or remember the epic instinct of the Dodo?

Remember, these are exceptions, not the norm. Besides, if ants and snails had such horrible instincts they would have been wiped out a long time ago or would have ended up as a frenchmans dinner.

[Tread]

Originally Posted by TheAngryPostman

Remember, these are exceptions, not the norm. Besides, if ants and snails had such horrible instincts they would have been wiped out a long time ago or would have ended up as a frenchmans dinner.

Ants are some of the, perhaps the, most successful Animals on earth. A single individual is nothing, a single ant can't do much, the group make them strong. They don't need something like instinct to survive. Same successful collective strategy as bees, wasps, hornets, termites, roaches (in an early state), some crabs and naked mole rats.
A high individual amount, a good shell or stings, chemical weapon or poison, fast reaction (senses not instinct), simple bigness or a good camouflage are other great working strategies to survive.
The most animals of one kind on earth are little crabs that are one component of plankton. Instinct wouldn't help them.

I would say that the biggest animal group (insects) don't have something that could be called instinct.

[Jenae LaTorque]

Originally Posted by Tread

I would say that the biggest animal group (insects) don’t have something that could be called instinct.

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What you say couldn't be more wrong. From the Encyclopedia Britannica:

Natural history » Behaviour » Instincts

The insect orients itself by responding to the stimuli it receives. Formerly, insect behaviour was described as a series of movements in response to stimuli. That hypothesis has been supplanted by one that holds that the insect has a central nervous system with built-in patterns of behaviour or instincts that can be triggered by environmental stimuli. These responses are modified by the insect’s internal state, which has been affected by preceding stimuli. Patterns of behaviour range from comparatively simple reflex responses (e.g., the avoidance of adverse stimuli, the grasping of a rough surface on contact with the claws) to elaborate behavioral sequences (e.g., searching for mates, courtship, mating, and locating egg laying sites; hunting, capturing, and eating prey). The highest developments of behaviour, found in social insects such as the ants, bees, and termites, are based on the instinct principle.
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As far as determining the most successful animal on Earth? No contest. What animal could be found on anyplace on Earth except the extreme depths of the oceans. What animal can create an environment that is totally devoid of other life than that which is contained within himself? What animal can escape the boundries of Earth and travel to another planetary body? What animal is the most adaptive to the most extremes of physical surroundings?
I can guarantee it isn't crabs or ants.

[Tread]

The problem is that instinct hasn't a clear defintion. I was referring to fear or to be aware of danger. I took the meaning of instinct from the mention in this thread:

animals have good instincts about things and people and since my dog didn't see them as hostile or a threat

I should have say this explicit.

You described another meaning of instinct that is correct, but this would exclude the meaning of instinct we are talking here. Because the fear or recognizing danger of dogs or wolves is a learned behaviour and not an automatically, irresistible, occur at some point in development, be triggered by some event in the environment, occur in every member of the species (or castes), be unmodifiable and govern behaviour.