Justice?

[randolph]

Wikipedia

Justice is the concept of moral rightness based on ethics, rationality, law, natural law, religion, fairness, or equity, along with the punishment of the breach of said ethics.

In view of the vote by Republicans in Congress to "privatize" medicare and severely reduce funding for many public programs including family planning.

Do these Congressmen and their corporate masters have any sense of justice?

[franalexes]

Ask Governor Blogo'.
then Bill ( I never had sex with that woman) Clinton

They know all about justice.

[transjen]

Originally Posted by franalexes

then Bill ( I never had sex with that woman) Clinton

They know all about justice.

What about W going AWOL from the reserve durning NAM
And W twisting the truth about WMDS inorder to get his Iruaq qar a war he was planning back when he was govorner in Texas
And lets not forget a lieing sack of crap govorner in FL in 2000 who riged an election
And yet you harp on Clinton because he got a BJ from a willing adult female and so he lied about it, something every single married man on the earth would do
and unlike W's lie no soliders were killed cause of it
If there was justice W, Rice, Channey and Romsfeld would all be brought up on war crimes and W would have been impeached for his lies to congress
the GOP wanted to impeach Clinton over a BJ and W they do nothing about his lies that cost us billions of dollars and many a brave solider
Jerseygirl Jen

[ila]

Originally Posted by transjen

...And yet you harp on Clinton because he got a BJ from a willing adult female and so he lied about it, something every single married man on the earth would do
and unlike W's lie no soliders were killed cause of it
If there was justice W, Rice, Channey and Romsfeld would all be brought up on war crimes and W would have been impeached for his lies to congress
the GOP wanted to impeach Clinton over a BJ and W they do nothing about his lies that cost us billions of dollars and many a brave solider
Jerseygirl Jen

I could never understand why your congress wanted to impeach Clinton over this affair. What happened had no effect on or consequences to the running of your country.

The biggest injustice in all this was how Monica was pilloried by the media and many citizens.

[randolph]

Originally Posted by ila

I could never understand why your congress wanted to impeach Clinton over this affair. What happened had no effect on or consequences to the running of your country.

The biggest injustice in all this was how Monica was pilloried by the media and many citizens.

The Republicans jumped all over Clinton because he "lied". Why? Because they were doing everything possible to prevent him from accomplishing anything. It was an extreme form of harassment and politically motivated.
Hanky panky is a way of life in Congress, what a bunch of total hypocrites!

Clinton lied but nobody died (bumper sticker)

[ila]

Originally Posted by randolph

...Hanky panky is a way of life in Congress, what a bunch of total hypocrites!

There's a lot of truth in that statement, randolph. Politicians are either screwing each other or the public and it's nonstop.

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by ila

I could never understand why your congress wanted to impeach Clinton over this affair. What happened had no effect on or consequences to the running of your country.

I completely agree. The republicans just wanted any excuse to try and get him out. Did they really think it would work? All they did was waste the country's time and money, and distract Clinton from things that actually mattered, like the growing presence of Al Qaeda.

[randolph]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

I completely agree. The republicans just wanted any excuse to try and get him out. Did they really think it would work? All they did was waste the country's time and money, and distract Clinton from things that actually mattered, like the growing presence of Al Qaeda.

That's so true.
What mystifies me is why officials in high places are willing to risk everything for a few moments of sex. I surely know what it's like to be horny but to spend thousands of dollars for a fuck or take advantage of an intern? What is up with these guys, does all that power make them obsessed with sex?

Anyway, the relentless harassment of Clinton was outrageous. It is to his credit that he survived and his Presidency survived. I think it was because the public realized it was unjust.

[franalexes]

they do nothing about his lies that cost us billions of dollars and many a brave solider
Jerseygirl Jen[/QUOTE]

The THEY you are talking about was a democrat congress.

[transjen]

Originally Posted by franalexes

they do nothing about his lies that cost us billions of dollars and many a brave solider
Jerseygirl Jen

The THEY you are talking about was a democrat congress.[/QUOTE]


Fran i fear you have being hanging with Tracy far too long as you seemed to have forgotten that when W lied the house and sen where under GOP control and was controlled by the same members that wanted to impeach Clinton for getting a BJ so the way it looks is that getting a BJ is the worst thing ever but starting a war on lies is okie dookie as long as you are GOP
Jerseygirl Jen

[randolph]

Congress talks about jobs while they provide tax incentives to move jobs overseas. GE and other multinationals play games and avoid paying any taxes. What is the justice in that?

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by transjen

And W twisting the truth about WMDS inorder to get his Iruaq qar a war he was planning back when he was govorner in Texas

Tell me Jen, was Bill Clinton lying in 1998 when he said this?

Originally Posted by Bill Clinton

The community of nations may see more and more of the very kind of threat Iraq poses now: a rogue state with weapons of mass destruction, ready to use them or provide them to terrorists. If we fail to respond today, Saddam and all those who would follow in his footsteps will be emboldened tomorrow.

Was Hillary Clinton lying in 2002 when she said this?

Originally Posted by Hillary Clinton

In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including Al Qaeda members, though there is apparently no evidence of his involvement in the terrible events of September 11, 2001. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons. Should he succeed in that endeavor, he could alter the political and security landscape of the Middle East, which as we know all too well affects American security.

Was Clinton's secretary of defence lying in 2002 when he said this?

Originally Posted by William Cohen

I am absolutely convinced that there are weapons...I saw evidence back in 1998 when we would see the inspectors being barred from gaining entry into a warehouse for three hours with trucks rolling up and then moving those trucks out.

Was Ted Kennedy lying in 2002 when he said this?

Originally Posted by Ted Kennedy

There is no doubt that Saddam Hussein's regime is a serious danger, that he is a tyrant, and that his pursuit of lethal weapons of mass destruction cannot be tolerated. He must be disarmed.

There's many more quotes I could add, but we'll start with these for now.

Originally Posted by transjen

And lets not forget a lieing sack of crap govorner in FL in 2000 who riged an election

Evidence ?

[smc]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

Tell me Jen, was Bill Clinton lying in 1998 when he said this?


Was Hillary Clinton lying in 2002 when she said this?


Was Clinton's secretary of defence lying in 2002 when he said this?


Was Ted Kennedy lying in 2002 when he said this?


There's many more quotes I could add, but we'll start with these for now.

Evidence ?

Throughout history, one could find example after example where politicians from different sides of the fence (so to speak) utter similar assessments about this or that. What matters is what they DO. Hence, Tracy Coxx's litany of statements gets us nowhere. We can argue until the cows come home whether Bush and Kennedy, Clinton, Cohen, et al. made similar statements. But only Bush, none of these others, went to war over this when inspectors were giving evidence to the contrary. Only Bush preemptively invaded a country that had not attacked the United and lied about the connections between that country and those who had attacked the United States. Only Bush stood up before Congress and knowingly lied about Iraq, uraniam, and Niger as justification to send American soldiers to lose their lives for a lie. Not Bill Clinton, not Hillary Clinton, not William Cohen, not Ted Kennedy, not any of the people in Tracy Coxx's litany of quotes taken out of the context of historical ACTION.

[smc]

^ Just to follow up:

What Tracy Coxx would have us believe by the manner of the post with quotes from others is the equivalent of saying that every politician who spoke out against the Contras in Nicaragua is complicit with the Reagan Administration in the Iran-Contra scandal.

Any reasonable person knows how ridiculous a notion that is.

[transjen]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

Tell me Jen, was Bill Clinton lying in 1998 when he said this?


Was Hillary Clinton lying in 2002 when she said this?


Was Clinton's secretary of defence lying in 2002 when he said this?


Was Ted Kennedy lying in 2002 when he said this?


There's many more quotes I could add, but we'll start with these for now.

Evidence ?

AH yes the old blame Clinton stratagee, You would have a point if Clinton took the info and started the war which he didn't as unlike W Clinton didn't have a grugde agianst Sadam so he was smart enought to read the report raise an eyebrow and say we better keep an eye on this joker, W on the other hand took the report and twisted and fudged it and outright lied with his cabinet marching in step behind him


No matter how you try to spin it W lied and soliders died
And proof of FL sleaze of a governor he is W weasle little brother who put Kathrine Harris as head of elections even tho it was a pure conflict of interest as she was also the head of W's FL election camp and lets not forget the until 2000 FL never had ballot problems, Jed and Kathrine rigged the election and the unsupreme court on a straight partyline vote of 5-4 the USA and made the worst president ever the president and we have been surfering ever since
Jerseygirl Jen

[randolph]

Originally Posted by franalexes

Ask Governor Blogo'.
then Bill ( I never had sex with that woman) Clinton

They know all about justice.

Lying, that's what politicians do best.

Is it just that Congress keeps giving tax breaks to the rich while working people pay more for food and fuel and pay more of the tax burden?