Bionca's Poll For Men

[Talvenada]

This poll is for our Bionca, and it continues the conversation about her dismay, concerning what guys honestly think about trans women. Except, this concerns the why factor.


Who are we at this forum,
and why do we behave the way we do?


Why don't we defend the trans women enough?


Or do we defend them more than elsewhere?


Who we are predicts our actions before the fact, and proves our actions after the fact.

[tgsexual]

Yes, I've been in a love relationship with a non-op and there is not way I'll be going back to women born in women's bodies.

While I consider transwomen to be women, there is something uniquely attractive about them. Even post ops. There's a connection, an empathy, that I don't feel from XX women.

As for standing up for them, sure, I will, but we have to remember everyone starts somewhere and at there are gonna be a lot of newbies here who are simply at the stage of objectifying tws and have little idea of the correct terms. Perhaps we shouldn't scare everyone away right from the start by abusing them for their ignorance. But yes, the odd suggestion and putting some lines in the sand is fair enough.

[barry]

Originally Posted by bi0mech81

as odd as this sounds, I'm on here for the porn. I'm in a relationship and am not seeking to meet with anyone from here.

this discribes me as well

however in another life id be on a plane to meet one of you sexy fuckers!

[merelypink]

IM going to be very interested in the results

[O'Sully TS Hopeful]

this is a very good idea for a poll. good job tal

[rockabilly]

Should make for some interesting conversations.

[ila]

Originally Posted by Talvenada

.....Who are we at this forum,
and why do we behave the way we do?


Why don't we defend the trans women enough?


Or do we defend them more than elsewhere?


Who we are predicts our actions before the fact, and proves our actions after the fact.

The questions in the poll don't match the questions posed here, therefore your post does not make any sense. I really have no idea what you are trying to find out. How does the fact that one may or may not have a relationship with a transwoman relate to whether or not one defends transwomen?

[jdawg]

I have had sex with 2 transwomen. I'm not into relationships so those 2 times never turned into anything more. I would be open to a relationship, but I don't really think I'll ever find the right person to settle down with.

[Talvenada]

Originally Posted by ila

The questions in the poll don't match the questions posed here, therefore your post does not make any sense. I really have no idea what you are trying to find out. How does the fact that one may or may not have a relationship with a transwoman relate to whether or not one defends transwomen?

ILA:


My thinking is that why you come here may shed a light on your response to certain issues, like those that Bionca faces on a daily basis, and she feels those issues here as well. My feeling when starting this poll was to establish who comes here to determine that response. Men who have an emotional relationship with a trans woman are more likely to be sensitive to her issues. Men who come here to treat a trans woman as a sex object will be less likely to feel empathy. It doesn't establish the new members from the more seasoned veterans, which could have an effect on the outcome. Is it error proof? NO!

Maybe the response that Bionca is seeking is not 80% but 50%, and if she expected 50% and got 50% it would be par for the course. In other words, if she has unrealistic expectations, her disappointment is not founded in reality. However, if 50% is reality and sees 30%, she has a measurable difference to compare to the outside world.

I hope it doesn't appear to be to clean-room sterile.


TAL

[spike_40]

Originally Posted by Talvenada

This poll is for our Bionca, and it continues the conversation about her dismay, concerning what guys honestly think about trans women. Except, this concerns the why factor.


Who are we at this forum,
and why do we behave the way we do?

Personaly I behave as if they were mates and friends
Why don't we defend the trans women enough?

I do defend if that is the word you want to use I stck up for their decision to go the way they have and enjoy piercing then as I do any customer.
Or do we defend them more than elsewhere?

Yes I possible do defend them more as I would like to have one as a full time partner
Who we are predicts our actions before the fact, and proves our actions after the fact.

As with all trans gender they all should be treated as we our selves want to be treated

[michael39]

For those of us who haven't had the opportunity yet, there really isn't a good selection in your poll. My selection would be: Haven't dated or had sex yet but plan on it in the future.

[Talvenada]

Originally Posted by michael39

For those of us who haven't had the opportunity yet, there really isn't a good selection in your poll. My selection would be: Haven't dated or had sex yet but plan on it in the future.

MICHAEL:

Life is what happens while you're busy making other plans.

TAL

[johndowe]

Hi there.

Your poll is missing some options...

Never been with a t-girl, went to bar, but no 7 or better, used to date 8's or better, call me vain.

Also, VERY tired of women bitching their little heads of for the smallest little thing, it's such a turn off.

So, here i am stuck between a rock and a hard place, (again) in many ways, then you kinda put words in our mouths about oblectifying t-girls too, i only objetify the women gg & tg that put themselves in that position, when i speak to someone i always do so respectfully until they dis-respect me, then it's another ball game.

About defending tg's, well it is said: help yourself and god will help you, it is a translation from french, it looses a bit in MY translation, but if you don't stand up for yourself why should anybody stand up for you? Some will of course, i probably would, but if you act as a victim, some will treat you like one and others will make you one.

johnDowe.

[ila]

Originally Posted by johndowe

......About defending tg's, well it is said: help yourself and god will help you, it is a translation from french, it looses a bit in MY translation, but if you don't stand up for yourself why should anybody stand up for you? ........

The English expression is God helps those who help themselves.