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Hey there, Someguy2 --

You said: "I'm not a politically correct person... My intention here is not to offend any one, but to be honest about what I like and what I don't like. I don't like being attacked over it." Well, first of all, I don't think anyone here is trying to attack you per se -- it's just that for someone expressing a real interest in transgenders, you're kind of confusing us with some of your statements (but I'll get to that in a second). You also said "Maybe I should just leave the forum, and enjoy the trannies by myself so I don't offend any one". Well, I agree with GRH and would suggest you consider sticking around. I think you'd have fun and enjoy things MORE by hanging out on the boards and talking with people and sharing your viewpoints. Trust me, there's always wide-ranging opinions around this place! But overall, the people here are incredibly nice and genuinely interested in trading opinions, so I think you should stay.

Now, speaking for myself -- and I don't mean any of this to sound like I'm attacking you -- I'm just a little confused by some of the things you said. For example, in your first post you said: "Always been disgusted by men, even if they have a nice cock"...but THEN you turned right around and said two posts later: "I connect to real girls emotionally and they have pussy as well (which I also like), but not as much as cocks."

So, you're disgusted by men, yet you like cocks more than pussy?
Well, that sort of strikes me as two conflicting statements.

Also, in your first post, you said: "If real girls had cocks, I probs wouldn't even like trannies" (okay, so we're back to you liking cocks)...THEN you said in your second post: "I just wish real girls had cocks and would fuck as good as trannies do. From my personal tastes, the only thing trannies offer over real girls is the cock" (okay, so you still really, really like cocks)...but THEN, after all of that build-up, you finally concluded in your third post: "Don't get me wrong, trannies are pretty cool. But the benefits of a real girl far out weigh a tranny for my personal preferences."

So, you seem to be saying trannies are good (after all, you love that cock)...but they're only SO good. They're only good up to a CERTAIN point. In other words, they're good as sexual objects...but that's where it ends. That's the line in the sand for you.

For example, you said: "When it comes to a real girl that I like, I pretty much want to do everything I can with her. When it comes to a tranny, there are loads of things I could never do with them sexually. Rimming, giving anal sex, kissing. The thought of doing that with a tranny just weirds me out"...yet THEN you said "Don't get me started on trannies who can't get hard either. I mean, that right there pretty much kills off any sexual interest I have in them completely."

So, again, I'm sort of left scratching my head. Because it's like you're blowing up a balloon...blowing it up more and more...but JUST as the balloon gets inflated, you suddenly pull out a pin and pop it and say "Well, that's enough of THAT." In other words, you'll say "I like cocks more than pussy...cocks get me hot...therefore trannies are cool...and trannies with hard cocks definitely get me hot...but wait, they're not as cool as girls. But I sure do wish girls had cocks and could fuck like trannies." At which point POP! There goes the balloon.

All in all, I think I get where you're coming from. Like many TS fans, I take it you like highly feminine looking transgenders -- the classic ultra passable photo model who can strip and pose hard -- but that's it. You like looking at them...they turn you on...you might even jerk off to them at home...but you couldn't imagine actually being around a REAL transgendered person, because if she ever gave you a simple kiss on the cheek that would "weird you out."

Well, right off the bat, that whole "I couldn't even kiss a trannie" line puts you a bit at odds with many of the guys here. After all, go visit the DATING section and you'll find loads of guys who bemoan that they can't even meet a real transgender where they live, let alone have a chance at taking one out on a date. Not to mention there's a whole other slew of other guys here who not only would love to kiss a TS, but they dream of saving up enough money so they can take a trip to Thailand, all in the hope of picking up Amy (or some other TS star) and living out their sexual dream.

So, in that respect, given why most guys are attracted to TS porn, I have to say I do find it a bit curious that you openly say you like cock more than pussy...that a hard TS gets you hot and going sexually...yet the thought of even kissing a TS completely weirds you out. So again -- as I said at the top of this post -- I'm definitely NOT trying to pick on you. I'm just curious by the contradiction that seems to exist there.

ANYWAY... I think all of that leads to what Bionca wrote. I think she simply took large offense to your statement: "I don't consider trannies to be real girls. As long as they look like real girls, that's enough for me." You later rammed this point home by adding: "I don't consider them real girls, because they are not. They can be very good imitations, but that's about as far as it can go as far as I'm concerned."

Well, here's the bottom line: in the TS community, that's the equivalent of slapping them hard across the face with the ultimate level of disrespect since they DO consider themselves to be female and they WANT that side of themselves to be recognized and accepted by the world at large. So saying she's not a "real girl" and taking it further and calling her "an imitation" (at best) and THEN taking it the distance by saying "Hey, so long as you LOOK like a girl, that'll do" -- as if merely slapping on some lipstick and stockings is all that it takes for Bionca to define herself -- sort of demeans her feelings, if not her entire sense of self-being or self-worth. Saying it only matters that she LOOKS the part completely discredits what someone like Bionca actually FEELS about herself and her own identity.

So, if you're only looking to get off on the porn side of things, that's cool. If there's something about looking at professionally shot pictures of a very sexy, ultra passable, rock hard TS posing nude that makes you want to unzip your pants and jerk off in private, that's fine. I have no problem with that. There's more than enough guys around this place who feel exactly the same. Hell, let's be frank -- there's OBVIOUSLY more than enough guys who secretly feel that way, which is why TS porn has exploded in recent years.

On the other hand, I'd just give you a friendly bit of advice -- but I'm sure you're already aware of this deep down inside. Just try to remember that much like Jenna Jameson or a porn star is not indicative of the average woman you're going to meet in your daily life, the same is true for TS porn. Is it hot fun to jerk off to Areeya or Amy? Sure. But the transgendered community is about REAL flesh and blood people with REAL feelings, and they have more than enough problems as it is fighting for recognition and equality and justice and all sorts of things -- even simple acceptance by the world at large -- and that's why a blunt "in your face" comment like telling them they're not "real women" or calling them "imitations" or saying "so long as you look good, that's ALL that matters" isn't going to make them very happy. Whether you want to accept or believe this, they are women and they certainly consider themselves to be, so they're just looking for a bit of respect.

Which frankly, I don't think should be very hard for any of us to give them as fellow human beings.
But that's just my two cents...
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