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Originally Posted by randolph
Isn't Fox news mainstream?
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Nah, even left wing bloggers and talk radio hosts are seated in front of Fox News at the Whitehouse press conferences now.
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Originally Posted by randolph
This tudu seems to involve Utah getting another congressman by counting their missionaries that are out of state!
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They are one group that is affected, and because of that they raised the issue. That doesn't change the fact that this has huge repercussions for future elections does it?
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Originally Posted by randolph
Well good ole Karl Rove went all out to manipulate elections and Repubs cheered him along. 
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And Obama's campaign copied Rove's strategy to get into the Whitehouse. Fine. That's a campaign strategy. That's not the same as using the power of the executive branch to define political boundaries is it?
I don't think you're going to be able to put lipstick on this pig and keep a straight face. Would you answer the statement and question I asked you from above?
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Originally Posted by TracyCoxx
This is bigger than gerrymandering. This would have the power of the executive office (i.e. a full branch out of the US's 3 branches) behind it, and a majority of congress. Let's say this happened 3-4 years ago, when the Republicans had the Whitehouse and Congress. Would you be ok with the Whitehouse having control of voting districts under those circumstances?
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