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Originally Posted by randolph View Post
Right on Hank, but I don't want them to be history,
I want them tried for WAR CRIMES!
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Originally Posted by hankhavelock View Post
I agree - they would deserve it... as Jesse Ventura said in some interview... "George W. Bush will leave office totally happy and "ignorant" of the damage he has done. He will ride out in the sunset the good old American way and live happily for ever after..."
Well, you can give up that pipe dream right now.
Never gonna happen -- frankly, never stood a chance of happening.

The truth is SO many people on BOTH sides of the political aisle voted for and supported the Iraq War right from the start that ANY sort of trial would involve bringing countless numbers of people to the stand -- all of whom don't want to be anywhere near a courtroom to protect their own self-interests.

Hell, just look at the big news of Friday: it turns out the one leading Democrat, Rep. Conyers, who was vocally pushing for Bush to be brought up on charges, has now been revealed to have his own secret that he was trying to bury and hide: namely, his wife could now be facing a criminal bribery indictment for abusing his office's power to secure financial deals. Gee, maybe it's just me, but the notion that his own wife could be soon standing in front of a judge herself sort of tarnishes the image of him then grandstanding and saying "I'm all for the law and truth to come out!"

Here's the bottom line: everyone who is on the opposite side of aisle to the party currently in power always dreams of tearing the other side down. That's just basic human nature and wanting to see "your side" win. But sad to say, in this day and age, political venom has reached such astounding levels that many people no longer want to see someone just losing their job or being voted out of office -- instead they dream of some nutty Watergate-level conspiracy taking place that is going to tear down absolutely everything in sight. Like a tsunami, it will literally just wipe the other side completely out so that "your side" can now take over for years to come. And unfortunately, Hollywood has done a sensational job (post-Watergate) of selling this bogus idea of all-powerful and all-encompassing conspiracies existing out there, when the truth is there really are none.

The truth is NO administration EVER wants to go after a previous one, simply because it means you THEN expose yourself or your party. You want to go after Bush? Fine -- but then you expose all of the Clinton years that led up to the war, which means the Democrats would actually be putting other Democrats on the firing line. Or look at what's happening now: someone like Conyers wants Karl Rove to testify before Congress, yet Rove is now citing executive privilege and willing to fight it out in court. That puts Obama in a giant bind...and a truly uncomfortable spot...because if he backs a nut job like Conyers and says "Okay, put Rove on the stand" that instantly sets a legal precedent and means over the next 4 years all of HIS advisors can now be made to testify in front of Congress -- or worse, once he's out of office (and, yes, that day will come. After all, we didn't elect him King!) THEN all of his people can be made to testify and reveal confidential information, which I'm sure will include many a conversation that even Mr. Nice Guy Obama would prefer to see kept buried and private.

Politics has too many off-shoots, too many people involved on the Federal level from ALL political parties, which is why everyone will now treat the Bush/Iraq War years as simply something that happened... as something that will be pushed aside now, in the midst of the global economic crisis... and people will prefer for it to simply be something that history will be the final judge on, and not some silly courtroom where ultra-Leftists, consumed in their lingering hate for Bush, are still hoping to get at him even though he's long gone.

For crying out loud, a recent poll showed that a whopping 84% of the American people DON'T support any type of Iraq War hearings or any type of pursuit of Bush for "war crimes", feeling it would only hurt the country and it would be a total waste of money. As I said, they feel we should just move on now since we have this economic crisis to deal with. So, as much as you guys would love to see Bush brought up on "war crimes", keep in mind that 8 out 10 people disagree with you. That's a pretty fucking big number of people that would instantly come up to you and say "What the hell is with you guys? Leave it alone already. We have no interest in this."