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Originally Posted by ila
You mean like you always do for my posts. Oh that's right, you don't ask for clarification you just jump right in and make statements and assumptions without asking if that's what I mean or asking for a clarification.
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Gee, someone's feeling a bit sensitive today. Like I "ALWAYS DO" for your posts, Ila? Maybe my memory's a bit fuzzy here having just woken up, but I don't recall opposing your viewpoints all
that much or
that consistently -- as if I literally go out of my way to stake an opposing position from you on things. If you feel that way, then I'm sorry if I somehow slighted you since that was never the intent. In fact, I think my last post (the one you are responding to) was pretty darn diplomatic. On the other hand, I'll also stake my own ground and say this: I can't think of a single post I've every put up on these message boards that I can't defend for being my actual viewpoint or for it simply being a playful post that was aimed at someone I've become friends with off-site. And I'm sure those people know who they are, which is why I can make a joke and they'll take it with a smile and laugh.
But going back to the debate at hand, again, I stand by what I said -- Limegirl's posts, much like Bionca has intelligently and passionately written about, stresses her feelings for wanting to be accepted for "who" she is and
not for how she dresses or acts as a sexual object. I think that's pretty damn straightforward wish that ANYONE would have, namely to be accepted for the person you are. So, again, I don't think Limegirl has anything against the transgender community -- hell, she's part of it herself. And I don't think she has a bias against stransvestite or cross-dressers if they're doing things to express and be accepted for their true feminine self.
But again -- and I'll say this again, too -- there's CLEARLY a difference between those who are dealing with honest emotions and looking for honest acceptance and respect from the world at large for "who" they are as opposed to someone who is using their sexuality to make a quick buck, or worse who feels so bad or withdrawn or self-conscious (or whatever Freudian term you want to apply) about their sexuality that it then affects their own sense of self-worth. At which point they fall into a sadder sex-worker lifestyle, which I think most rational people would NOT like to see other people being forced into.
And I do mean FORCED since we're talking about a certain community that often has to resort to the sex trade to either make money or get by or to simply exist. And who in their right mind would wish that life on anyone? So, in the end, I simply spoke up because I thought THAT was what Limegirl was trying to say, especially given the fact that it's pretty clear from her posts that Limegirl's English isn't quite perfect. But her actual feelings seemed to ring through pretty clearly to me. She's a TS dealing with so many of the things that most of us can't even begin to comprehend. So, again, I salute both her and Bionca for the posts they've written where they're at least TRYING to explain what they have to go through or what they are feeling or what they have to deal with on a daily basis to be accepted for who they are.
But I wasn't looking to fight with you, Ila -- I was just tossing a little support Limegirl's way since I thought I understood what she was TRYING to say.