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Originally Posted by hankhavelock
Whatever... it's time that fascism, laissez-faire economics, neo-conservatism, misinterpretated religion and other nasty stuff finally give way to true liberalism and socially just democracies...
Sorry, guys... I just so intensely dislike the complete lack of social fairness and solidarity that seems to be more and more the style in and a brand of your country.
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If you keep talking that way, Hank, then I can promise you this: you're going to seal the election, but for McCain.
Since you're in Indonesia perhaps you haven't been witness to the latest news craze here in the States, which centers around "Joe the Plumber." Long story short, he was just an ordinary guy who Obama came upon as he was walking through a crowd and shaking hands, at which point "Joe" -- as just an average working guy -- asked Obama face-to-face about his tax plans. And in a move of utter stupidity...right on camera and for all the world to see....Obama revealed his true ultra Liberal colors by talking about how he WOULD raise taxes and take money from successful people, all because he believes in "spreading the wealth around." And those were his words, not mine.
You see, Hank, here in America -- where you seem to think we are fascists (?!?) or that we have no social justice (which I would disagree with by arguing back that the USA has the greatest degree of social freedoms and justice in the world) -- we pride ourselves on ONE core belief. As Americans, we believe that people should be responsible for themselves. We believe in a capitalist system and
not a communist or socialist one. As Americans, we believe that it's every person's right to be unrestrained by government -- so that every person can truly be free -- and, as a result, we have a Heaven sent right to make something of ourselves FOR ourselves. We also believe that if you save your money, then it's your money. And if you start up your own business and go from having pennies in your pocket to making your first million dollars, then that money should be yours, too. If you earned it, you get to keep it.
But I'll also tell you this. As Americans, we do NOT believe that anyone should be allowed to take your hard earned money "to spread the wealth around" in a socialist manner. Nor do we believe that someone...like Obama...should be allowed to take your money to reward others who are poor NOT because of hardships they've faced in life, but because they were simply too lazy to get off their ass and work a bit harder -- or work at all. In America, we do have a "welfare" system...a security net to help those who are disadvantaged or down on their luck...yet we also believe those self-same people have a personal responsibility to get OFF of welfare and eventually make their own way in life. We believe no one who is able-bodied or able-minded should be getting a free ride. Well, unless you're truly handicapped or crippled or something drastic like that, in which case we're then the most sympathetic of nations.
So, with all of that in mind, what was the fallout from Obama saying he wants to "spread the wealth around"? What was the reaction from having so many Liberal Democrats suddenly being on TV and thumping their chests and echoing Obama's pro-socialist thoughts just because they thought they had this election in hand? Well, I'll tell you what happened...
...As of today the race has drastically tightened. Obama's poll numbers have dropped. In fact, of the 5 "swing states" which could determine this election, Obama's lead in 3 of them has now dropped to the margin of error (meaning on election day he could lose them entirely) AND in the 2 other key swing states of Florida and Ohio, McCain has once again taken the lead. In fact, in Florida -- which determined the Bush election -- McCain benefited from a 6 point swing just over the weekend due to Obama's stupid wealth spreading plan.
In short: it's NEVER a good thing to lecture Americans on "true liberalism" or to lecture us on how we need to become a more "socially just" place. True ultra left liberalism is NOT who we are at heart. It's NOT a political philosophy that our country was founded on back in 1776 -- in fact, it's the polar opposite, which is why the average American voter...even to this day...still opposes it so much. So saying things like that -- as Obama has now found out -- only acts like a bucket of cold water to the face, at which point Americans remember that we LIKE being capitalists and we DO believe that our ways are superior. At which point we'll vote for the President who will give the middle finger to the rest of the "liberal and socialist" countries of the world because we, as Americans, want NO part of that.