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Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

What this nonsense? Where you try and claim that only a few ideologues and ME think the health care bill is unconstitutional? I didn't think it was serious enough to comment on, but of you insist, see the attachment.

Isn't it just grand to read things in a manner where you see only what you want to see, rather than what someone really wrote? That way, you can argue whichever point you want, regardless of anything, put words in the mouths of others, and try to get away with shifting the focus.

1. I NEVER, EVER used the word "only" where you ascribe it to me.

2. I wrote about the SUBJECTIVITY of determining the constitutionality or unconstitutionality of things that aren't specifically mentioned in the constitution.

Anyone who reads the exchange can see that. So, keep trying to put words in my mouth. It doesn't change the truth.

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

Even the majority of democrats must admit that the bill is unconstitutional.

edit: it wouldn't attach. Tlb says it's not a valid image for some reason.
Here's the url instead
http://sas-origin.onstreammedia.com/...qljhlh9b9q.gif

As for the opinion of the American people, it is an acknowledged fact among all serious followers of politics that the polls on this issue are heavily influenced as much by how the debate has been framed by partisan messengers, or how some have failed to frame the debate, as anything else. This is typical with such polls. Reasonable people can reasonably conclude that the poll you cite is no different than all the polls showing that people who opposed ALL government involvement in healthcare before the Affordable Care Act was passed were also highly like to agree with the statement "Keep your government hands off of my Medicare."