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Originally Posted by franalexes
We just had our coldest summer anyone can remember and you STILL believe in global warming?
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Fran, read the article from Angry Postman. It talks about how ocean temperatures influence climate over 30 year cycles. Currently we're on the way down. It was a good article. What people, especially politicians and pundits like Gore & Limbaugh need to understand is that climate is not political. Gore had no business making a movie about a scientific topic like global warming. You read articles like the one above and see what scientists are saying or at least scientifically trained writers.
The evidence is obvious that climate does change and is still changing. The overall trend since the last several thousand years is up. Whether humans are accelerating it is still unclear, because we are still learning to understand the natural cycles that come into play.
But let's at least put an upper limit on the problem.
Can humans influence climate if they really tried? Absolutely. If we wanted to we could carpet bomb the planet with nukes. I bet that would have an effect don't you think? And the lower limit. Can we have zero effect? We make more waste than breathing and shitting, so no, we do have some effect. Then the answer is that we have some effect. Therefore we should think about what affect our activities could have on the climate as scientists, not politicians, try to determine how much effect we really have on the climate.
And if it is determined that humans negatively affect the climate, I certainly wouldn't trust a politician to make laws to protect the climate. There's too much special interest BS that gets in the way, and too much potential for politicians to manufacture evidence that says some activity we do is harmful - so create fines and taxes on those activities, because I've already seen speed limits get set back down to 55 mph on freeways a few years ago, in the name of clean air. Thankfully reason prevailed and a few months after they spent money to lower all the signs to 55 mph, they raised them back up again to 65 mph. Why not 70 like it was? I don't know. Probably some political BS. Either way, I typically drive at least 80 on freeways in my 16 mpg Mustang.