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robert30 07-14-2013 10:30 AM

Why can't we just say ladies ?
 
Hello I am new so please excuse any ignorance on my part.

Why do men have to be so derogatory when talking about ladies, ladies are ladies and they are to be respected the same way men are, imagine women talking about men in this way......it's not good be compared too as sex objects.

I am new as already stated above, I am kind and respectful but also worried in case I offend any ladies on this forum, I do not have much knowledge on the topic concerned so always willing to read and listen.

Thank you for reading my message,
God bless,
Robert

Smoothie 07-14-2013 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by robert30 (Post 237490)
Hello I am new so please excuse any ignorance on my part.

Why do men have to be so derogatory when talking about ladies, ladies are ladies and they are to be respected the same way men are, imagine women talking about men in this way......it's not good be compared too as sex objects.

I am new as already stated above, I am kind and respectful but also worried in case I offend any ladies on this forum, I do not have much knowledge on the topic concerned so always willing to read and listen.

Thank you for reading my message,
God bless,
Robert

For starters, this isn't a politically driven site. Most of us do view ladyboys as females, but then again even you wouldn't have found this "transladyboy" site on a search engine by searching for the keyword "female"...
This website is an *adult* oriented forum for transsexuals and their admirers. The term Transsexual, transgendered or Ladyboy is not derogatory. Some may dislike words like "shemale", but in the end I believe it's all about how the words are used and if the poster has ill-intentions.

I can't speak for the administrators or moderators of this forum, but I can assure you that this forum does not tolerate bigotry.

hankhavelock 07-15-2013 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Smoothie (Post 237517)
For starters, this isn't a politically driven site. Most of us do view ladyboys as females, but then again even you wouldn't have found this "transladyboy" site on a search engine by searching for the keyword "female"...
This website is an *adult* oriented forum for transsexuals and their admirers. The term Transsexual, transgendered or Ladyboy is not derogatory. Some may dislike words like "shemale", but in the end I believe it's all about how the words are used and if the poster has ill-intentions.

I can't speak for the administrators or moderators of this forum, but I can assure you that this forum does not tolerate bigotry.

I tend to agree with this statement. And as a guy living in Asia the term "ladyboy" is heavily used within the trans-community here without any ill-meaning - even "shemale". In the political West this is different, though.

Different folks, different attitudes.

However, terms such as "trans-woman" or "transgender" normally would be considered more respectful - or simply "woman" or "lady" as you suggest.

It does depend on the context, though. And also the person. I have, most certainly, several Asian trans-woman friends who object to the term "ladyboy" (or its local versions) and prefer just to be called "woman". At least when referring to themselves... :-)

It's an issue that keeps flaring up, and my experience is that it also depends on who you are - a little bit the same as the socalled n-word - as an African-American you can use it without a problem, but don't do it as an outsider :-)

So I guess it all boils down to how the receiver perceives your intentions when using a particular term.

Be respectful - and be observant.

Peace!

H

hankhavelock 07-15-2013 07:52 AM

And one more thing... this is a very unique forum as there are two completely separate "mindsets" debating - mostly separately, though mingling is accepted.

The ones dealing with the "funfunfun" stuff of having sex (such as: does any of you know this hottie... I surely would looove to toot in her trumpeto...) and the ones dealing with more mundane aspects (such as: within Darwinian theory, gynemimetophilia may be a route to a despectful approach - Benjamin et al.).

AND WE SEEM TO GET ALONG JUST FINE!

I've never seen another forum, where this is the case - and I find it liberating, actually.

H

franalexes 07-15-2013 08:04 AM

viewpoints vary
 
What one calls us (T-gurls) varies on one's viewpoint of what we are. In a porno setting like this site, I suppose many think shemales are sex machines. That probably does not offend those that are in "the business". Some of you guys try to reach into our emotional thoughts of ourselves and often see us in a world of prejudice and confusion.
I am not offended by use of the many terms. It all depends on the inter-action you have with me. Some may say I'm " a mouth watering sweatheart" while others sign me in as " the flamming fiesty bitch ! "

franalexes 07-15-2013 08:20 AM

Hankhavelock !
 
HANK !
Dammit ! Clean out your pm inbox. No one can send you mail.

hankhavelock 07-15-2013 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by franalexes (Post 237542)
HANK !
Dammit ! Clean out your pm inbox. No one can send you mail.

DARN IT... YES MAM... HAVING NOT BEEN ON THIS FORUM REGULARLY FOR QUITE SOME TIME...


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