I love this personal debate one has over "does this make me gay?"
I have recently brought my personal interests up with my spouse, she is not concerned by my sexuality. In fact it turns her on. Sexuality is something that seems to be more like a sliding scale. The scale belongs to you.
I don't plan on exposing all of my personal thoughts and feelings to all of the world, some things should be kept close to oneself and their open minded partner.
I feel good about me, I wish everyone could feel as good.

That was my first impression for my self when i was fortst attracted to a shemales .Im thinking Ami gay ?but now i dont care i love shemales specially their cock better keep it a secret for myself :yes:

Gay suggests your attraction to a member of the same sex, as I'm not a T-Girl I'm not gay :).
T-Girls are women with genitals I know what to do with lol ;)

MM xx.

In my opinion it depend on every individual himself, so everyone could give answer for himself. Some males wrongly consider Tgirls as males because of their male genitals. In that case they could consider themselves as gays, because they are interested in her masculinity represented by her penis. Those who knows Tgirls are women although they have male genitals and are interested in her femininity could not consider themselves as gays, because they like woman.

No I don't think it does, as gay is two people of the same gender and shemales I would class as women. So you guys should stop worrying about it just enjoy life :)

Perception is reality. What is it that you percieve or believe about it. Do you see a gorgeous sexy woman or do you see something else. What about the perception of the shemale you like. Does she percieve herself as a male. Probably not I would assume and in some way she may not consider being liked as being gay. She wants to be desired because of her femininity not out of any masculine traits. And you would desire her because of her womaness, so no I don't think it makes you gay anymore than it does.her.

Of course NOT. To be gay in my opinion is to be attracted and involved romantically to ones own gender. While my attraction to Shemales is purely sexual.

If it's hot it doesn't matter to me

I only like girls and shemales, but not men, i dont consider myself gay. I am only attracted to feminine qualities.

exact
 

i like women and shemales-i've tried with some men but i was excited by the idea and doing it was a very turn off..

Hah! So this is where all the interesting people went.

Anyway, your point is well made but there is a problem. Since Kinsey has appeared already, he's a good illustration. His research into human sexuality was based upon a strictly binary interpretation of gender--masculine or feminine. Clearly, Kinsey's work is the best (only) large-scale study we have, but the fact is that the rise in the apparent numbers of transgendered people, and the concomitant rise in numbers of people attracted to them, questions the binary interpretation of gender.

In fact there is as much of a range of gender expression as there is of attraction (cf Roughgarden, Evolution's Rainbow). This does not negate Kinsey but it does pose problems with interpretation thereof. The term 'homosexual' only came to mean 'manly men attracted to other manly men' in the 1970s, but we know, for example from the London 'molly-houses' of the 18th C as well as many many other examples that same-sex attraction where the individuals do not play the same gender role, is in fact much older and could be stated to be the norm. Furthermore these examples--and there are many--clearly reflect a range of gender expression that had been going on for a long time, but has been suppressed and conflated with sexual attraction, something I question.

This is absolutely not to suggest that transwomen are not women--they are. However in some ways their position is actually more clear than that of men who are attracted to them, largely because, at least until very recently, there was no term describing them other than pejoratives. Now I would describe myself as heterosexual but transattracted; I see transwomen as women but I recognise that I do have a specific attraction to them because of their transgender status. I venture to suggest this might apply to other men in my position. Clearly there are also men who are homosexual but transattracted, and bisexual but transattracted.

IMO transattraction is a valid expression of sexual desire; words like 'chaser' and 'admirer' are clearly derogatory to such men, and we need to rid ourselves of them, just as we need to rid ourselves of terms like 'tranny' or 'shemale'.

What this also means is that words like 'gay' 'straight' and 'bisexual' really do need to be revisited in the light of this phenomenon. We might discover that transattraction is indeed another, discrete, sexual preference (which is my hunch). But there is simply no research on this. Furthermore, Kinsey shows us that there is no black and white; his seven categories (someone said 6 but they forgot 0 I think) are still valid. However we should, biological variation applied, find that the same is true for transattraction; that there is a scale from 0-6 (say) going from fully cis-attracted to fully transattracted. Furthermore this must necessarily relate to the conventional understanding of sexual attraction, for how else would we explain a ciswoman who is attracted to transwomen, or a cisman who is attracted to transmen? (And these examples do really exist.)

So while I agree with your general proposition, that we cannot just make up or manipulate terms to suit ourselves, we do have a problem if the understood meanings of these terms do not adequately describe reality.

Do you have any statistics to back up the part of your statement that is in bold print? I really would like to know if this is true or if it is just that transgender people are more visible now than previously.

You are right that we need to get rid of derogatory terms.

I have been happily married for many years and love sex with my wife yet, I like thinking about sex with a tgirl. So what is my sexual orientation?

Does it really matter? You are what you say you are and not what someone else says you are.

Hello, all this is my first post here, I'd say that- who cares I know what I like and that is about it.

Liking shemales? You cannot be gay!
 

Gays and lesbians are attracted to their own gender only.
Heterosexuals are attracted to opposite gender only.

Those in between? They are Bi-sexual or bi-curious, pan-sexual, poly-amorous, etc. In other word: You like both!
What's wrong with that? In my books: You like both side of the world!

I'm attracted to shemales just like all of you, surfing right here on this site.
We are attracted to shemales... and they are a mix of both world!

Think about it.

Am I gay? Bisexual? Please Help :s
 

Ok, so, I am really turned on by shemales (transexual's). I'm not into dude's, just Shemales and women, but im not sure if i would be classified as gay or what. Ive had gay thoughts but ive never been turned on by them, however if i think about shemales or women sexually i get turned on. Im not sure and it botheres me, id just like to hear what everyone thoughts on this is. (This is my first thread i have ever posted, so if i messed it up, sorry) :confused:

I think it's pretty easy to answer this question.

Deep down do you lust after a man's body? If the honest answer is no then how can you be gay?

If you lust after women either with or without a cock then you must be straight.

Gay labelling
 

There seems to be a lot of concern over 'labelling' when it comes to the subject of dating transgendered individuals. I have been on many blogs devoted to the subject of dating Asian ladyboys, and it appears there are a large number of guys who are keen to explore this avenue, but are concerned about either what other people will think of them, and moreso what they will actually think of themselves.

Most guys who are ready to embark on a LB relationship are concerned with the 'gay' label. 'Does this mean I am gay?' they invariably ask. They are worried about their own sexuality, rather than embracing a new way of loving. Realistically, does it matter? I hope in this post to allay some of the fears being shown by guys unable to cross that final hurdle.

A 'gay' person is one who is stimulated only by members of their own sex, whether they be male or female. A 'bisexual' person is one who can be stimulated by members of both sexes, and a 'heterosexual' or 'straight' person is one who is stimulated only by members of the opposite sex.

So guys, if you previously have had only biological females as girlfriends but are wanting to experiment in the transgendered field, the odds are that you are 'straight, but with bisexual tendencies' - but do you really need or want this label to satisfy your own concerns?

To further complicate matters, my experiences show there are three distinct categories of ladyboys.

The first (which I have found to be in the minority, but will always stand corrected if it can be shown otherwise), are those who are the absolute examples of a 'female born in a male body'. Their main aim in life is to undergo a full sex change and to live life completely as a woman. Quite often they abhor their male genitalia, many are on chemical castration hormones, and have no interest in their penis other than for peeing out and the sooner they can change that the better.

The second category are those who take on the role of a female, but have no intention of getting rid of their penis, but will act completely as a female. They do not wish to engage in sexual activities as a male, but will delight in penile stimulation.

The third category are those as in Category 2, but will also delight in undertaking the role of a male lover, either with other males or in many cases with females. They are very proud of their male genitalia, although they too live as women.

It could be argued therefore, that if your interest is in only Category 1 ladyboys, and you also have no interest in their male genitalia that you are 'straight', and that you are looking more for an emotionally leaning relationship with a ladyboy. That you would prefer your ladyboy to have all the characteristics of a female. This to me indicates you are 'straight' as defined by society.

If your preference is for Category 3 ladyboys (which I unashamedly admit my girlfriend falls into) it could be argued that you are straight, but with strong bisexual tendencies.

You may not know exactly where you fit until you have experienced the ladyboy dating scene. When I started dating ladyboys I had no intention of being in the category 3. It was introduced to me by my current girlfriend. You may find, as I have, that it adds a further dimension to your sex life.

My advice is simple. Embrace your new lifestyle. If labels and 'what people will think' worries you to such a degree, then quite simply this lifestyle is not for you. Taking a ladyboy lover for a permanent relationship takes a lot of adjusting. It is a major change in your life, and many things have to be thought through. Do not look on your ladyboy lover as a sex toy. It is so much deeper than this, and you will find that she has emotional needs the same as any genetic girl will. It took me around 12-18 months into my now 4-year relationship to fully accept and commit to what I was doing. After a life of dating only genetic girls it was a big paradigm shift. However, the love I have found and the excitement of having such a wonderful relationship has left me in no doubt I have made the right choice.

your not alone in this kind of feeling dear :)
i consider my self as you. i like womens and feminine ladyboys.they are hot and same women

didn't think about this issue: I like women, and I love shemales, but real guys totally turn me off. So I'm pretty sure I don't fit in the "gay" definition! But are definitions that important?

Well guys are disgusting (except me of course) Women are hot (not all) some hot chicks have dicks, still she needs some loving too.

Does liking shemales make you gay?
 

I do not think you are gay if you like shemale, you have to be more open minded person and be honest with yourself. If you think that way then you always will feel that way.
People do not know how far a emotion can take them it start with a little one night stand or a fantasy then later on it progress further and more happens but again if you do not come clean with yourself then things are never good always bad. I have heard from my friend she had clients who have interests to sleep with a tgirl as soon she reveals her cock the try to beat her up why again be clean with you emotions.

I had that same problem thinking back and forth negative feelings negative emotions, then I decide to come clean tolled my friend the truth and we went from there. We are still great friends she had her operation now so she is a girl, I will let her know I am interested in still looking for a tgirl with a cock and she will understand

To be or not to be.
 

You can't be made"gay". Either you are or you aren't. Fucking a shemale
doesn't make you gay, that's just looking for an alternative to pussy which
can get boring sometimes. There are millions of "straight" guys who fuck
shemales on occasion but will always want pussy more, that doesn't make
us gay, we just sometimes want something a little different.
If anything, technically, that would make us all bisexual, we just happen to
want one side more than the other.
There's not a single gay guy out there who won't pass up the chance to fuck
a pussy if it came to them, on the same token a lesbian would fuck a guy if
she could get a good screw out of him (otherwise, they wouldn't need dildos.)
But both sides would always return to there primary choices of gendered
partners (guy-guy, girl-girl) to feel more at home sexually.
Unless your elderly and gay, true homosexuality doesn't really exist, every-
body wants to occasionally play on the other side of the fence.:respect:

No.

Gays like same sex people,bi's like both.

I like a girl with a dick so that must make me bi? I don't agree.I just like a girl with a dick.That simple.

Well said my man :-)

Dana: [after seeing an exchange between Jenny and Marina] I thought Jenny was straight.
Alice: Dana, most girls are straight until they're not. And then... sometimes they're gay 'til they're not.
Shane: True, but there are also the ones that never look back. Right? And you can spot them coming a mile away.

I'm always concerned that when people ask "does this mean I'm gay???" there seems to be an unspoken, but nonetheless very implicit air of something "obviously" being wrong with being, or being perceived as "gay". I'd like to think, in this post-Will & Grace world, it would be clear that there's nothing wrong with being gay, but then again, television still won't air a male-male kiss as anything more than a joke, so maybe the fact that there's nothing wrong with being gay isn't as clear as GBLT activists want it to be?

The breakdown, as I see it goes like this:

Most women have vag, but some women have peen (approximately 1 in 250, by Lynn Conway's more liberal estimates --just search "lynn conway trans prevalence" to find her paper on it). A woman with a peen may or may not eventually get a surgically constructed vag, but she's still a woman.

Most men have a peen, but some have a vag (see Lynn Conway's estimates for trans women, and combine with Kate Bournstein's 1994 estimate that approximately 50% of all TS/TG people are on the FTM spectrum, as stated in her book Gender Outlaw). A man with a vag may or may not (and is statistically less likely to) get a surgically-constructed peen, but he's still a man.

If you're a man and you're into women exclusively (or very nearly so), you're heterosexual, regardless of what the women you're attracted to have in their pants. Some people are only into women with certain genitals, and that's OK --having a preference in a partner's genitals is about sexual compatibility more than sexual orientation.

I'm seriously only sexually attracted to people with peen --men and women, but (intriguingly) dependent on the time of the year, I seem to have a preference more for women (with cocks) than men (with cocks), and vice-versa. I've tried sex with women and other trans men, and it's been disasterous -- the "homefield advantage" thing is an urban myth. I've analysed this peculiarity of my sexuality, and it's got nothing to do with personal hang-ups and such. Sometimes people are just into certain body types, and if you're not a jerk about it, then there's nothing wrong with it.

Most of the other trans people I know would say that makes me bi-, and only a handful of said people would still feel compelled to lecture me about it being supposedly "problematic" that I'm only into people with certain genital configurations (but that's where I bring up sexual compatibility as a factor --some people have a very maleable compatibility, others seem to have a more rigid compatibility; and as many have said before me, sex and love are not the same thing --I can love some-one more than life itself, doesn't mean I can be, or should be, sexually attracted to them).

turn off that little voice !
 

To get past your inhibitions, you must turn off that little voice inside you. May I recommend the teaching of Christopher Hitchens ? Then realize that as long as your not hurting someone else, and it feels good, anything is fair game.
Get started in Nana Plaza Bangkok. Cascades. Let one of the gorgeous ladyboys there get you going . yea !

At the end of the day it doesn't matter what label you give yourself straight, gay or bi ladyboys or shemales are as much women as their genetic counterparts. The fact that they have hard dicks and will fill you with their cum is just an added bonus and one that we should all take advantage of as often as possible.

Live, love and enjoy yourself as long as no one is hurt it's all good

Does liking shemales make you gay?

I think so.
I used to really be into looking at shemales,
fantasising about having sex with them,
onto hanging out with them and sleeping with some.

I now own the complete DVD collection of The L-Word
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWcaOs8dgF0

and I love sex with other women so that makes me gay,
and I blame those pesky shemales!!! ;)

ladyboys are a third sex
 

Liking ladyboys does not delve into the realm of gay or straight. Katoeys are a third sex. The issue is that you live in a Western society that makes judgements on sexuality. Ladyboys are fellow human beings with family, feelings and aspirations. The limitations you have are ones you place on yourself. rolf

So long as you're happy with what you do surely the label you give yourself is largely irrelevant

The question primarily comes up because we are caught in a binary view of gender, and reality is more nuanced than that.

A very nice post, thanks!

I don't believe anyone is gay or straight, black or white. The best explanation i've heard is that sexuality isn't a choice, it's a spectrum and everyone is on it somewhere and it's a fluid environment. Meaning your position on it constantly changes with life experiences.

I also very much like the reality that t-girls are women who happen to have male genitalia. Since liking female boobs doesn't define you as 100% straight, neither does liking male genitalia define you 100% gay.

What I would be curious to know is on a scale of 1 to 100. 1 being someone whose appearance is indistinguishable from a man and 100 whose appearance is indistinguishable from a woman, what is your "passable" preference threshold? (NOT intending to hijack this thread, it's more just food for thought.)

does liking t gurls make u gay
 

I agree with most of the other posts
Who cares. Do what makes u happy. I am NOT attracted to men but shemales are a huge turn on. Dont let anyone tell you whats right for you
Best of Luck

Sooooo many ways this conversation can go.

No you are not gay.

Hi there, I'm exactly in the same boat as you. I actually got into ladyboys after watching a documentary about them on tv a year ago or so. I then started googling and youtubing ladyboys, eventually ending up on porn sites. It was kind of awkward at first but I was really attracted to them and the image of a hot ladyboy with a rock hard cock drives me crazy. I don't think you need to worry what others think, just do the things that make you happy. I love women as well but I think about how amazing it must be, to have a hot night of passion with a ladyboy. Don't worry friend, you are not alone on this.

I like men, women and trans people - socially, personally and sexually.

I therefore class myself as 1. Lucky & 2. A greedy bitch!

Just go with the idea that you fancy someone and you dont need a label that is only used for other people.

Not am I gay?... Am I happy, that's whats important. Half the world is not happy unless they are unhappy...so fuck them.
I love to eat pussy and I love to suck ladyboy or transsexual cock. I love to swollow cum. I have no desire to suck a guys cock. So what does that make me? HAPPY That's all that matters. There are so many things in live that you have no control over. You have to act on the things you can control .If it makes you happy, suck tranny cock every day, and swallow all the cum. I'd spend grocery money, if I had to, to suck tranny cock. I wouldn't suck a guy's cock for free. What does that make me? HAPPY!!!
And stop saying "one day I want to meet a tranny" . What's wrong with today? It's going to make you happy, I guarantee it. Unless you live in Bumfuck there is a tranny within an hour and if not drive farther. You're gonna love it.
I'm not gay, I'm not straight, I'm not bi, I'm HAPPY ( with a little cum right there on the corner of my mouth):turnon::respect::turnon:

" Gay " men dont like shemales.

Straight men do.

I think that solves the question.

mmm, NO, but
 

I don't know if this video has been posted in this long thread, but certainly relevant. Probably the best explanation about why hetero men seem to like shemales. He specifically talks about that here:

Just found out I can't post links, just search "Authors@Google: Ogi Ogas" on youtube. It's the first video of a bald man giving a speech in front of a class.

Well, i like shemales but i don't consider myself as gay, i mean a female body with a cock turns me on but a male body really doesn't.
In my opinion, your gay if a male attracts you, that's all.

And like others said, the point is to be happy, whatever you like sex !

Who cares?

I love Shemales..most gay men I know don't care for them at all. Gay men like men and want nothing to do with anything feminine.

I love women too. I love Shemales. I like to suck on a shemale's cock and even bottom for Shemales.
I like crossdressers too.
Hell I even like to fuck around with guys too.

I don't consider any of it abnormal or gay.
I am a sexual being and I like to sample it all.

Btw, sex with a shemale or crossdresser is the best sex you can get.

I saw a very interesting documentary about ladyboys in Thailand. Alot of the ladyboys felt they were born in a wrong body.
When I see a ladyboy, shemale, trannsexual, I see a woman, a female. And yes they have a cock. I dont like men either, but the weird part for me is. If they make a gender change and have a pussy instead. Then I dont find it attractive. Makes me wonder about my self.

/emlay

you're not the only one!
 

hi Emlay! After nearly 4 years as a member of this forum, i must have seen like 15 (or more) posts of guys like you and me who simply lose interest in a particular shemale or ladyboy the minute we learn they had their cock (and balls) removed for good... Then came the day that i started to ask myself "why is the penis so important??" As time went by, i began to realize i really was attracted to male genitalia - enough so that i had to try and wrap my mouth around one juicy cock for real, just to see how it felt...
Okay, now we enter in the gray area :blush: You say when you look at a ladyboy, you see a female; I say "good for you" because the majority of them want you to love their female side... and you know what? Many of them will get pissed off if you give too much attention to their cock!!! Which brings us to a most controversial aspect of the matter, Emlay: if you stay in this forum long enough, you'll discover that some male-identified members here are able to see the cock as something feminine!!! How 'bout that??? To each his own, i suppose...
To conclude, i'd say don't wonder too much about yourself :cool: as long as you find their boobz, cute faces with make-up, long hair, curvy butts, shapely legs all attractive... Things will be different the day when you'll watch a re-run of "the Island", and you'll find yourself more turned on by a still-young Ewan McGregor than by Scarlett Johansson :eek:

______
Dennis.

Hi Dennis,

Thanks for yoour reply.

Im still laughing :D
If that day come well, then I have misjudged my self :)

I do see the cock as a female cock. Its a woman with a different equipment.
I love their body, hair, eyes, boobs, ass, cock, well all of it. I wouldnt mind to suck a female cock. But if I meet a tranny/ladyboy/shemale. Im interested in them, not the cock only. I can play with my own if it only was the cock :)

/emlay

Does liking shemales make you gay?
 

I was viewing a Adult personal ad when I came across a Ladyboy. I remember her name was Nicole and she was a doll with a big cock. I got hard as a rock thinking about the possibilities of go down on her and swallowing her cum. But she was 21 and I was 48. I wrestled with that thought if such thinking was being Gay. I always liked being with women but to have a woman with a 8+inch cock was attractive to me. Now I'm nearly 64 and Jonna Jet is about 52 and still gorgeous but so are the Ladyboys. Go to Craigslist and go to Thailand or Phillipines,casual sex sites for TS. Japan has NewHalf and Miran is really H-O-T.
I still like women and fantasize with Ladyboy's found on x Hamster or Ladyboy Tube sites. Best experience is to get a Fleshlight, buy 2 get one free in pussy, ass and mouth. I place mine in a old sock and it works oh so much better with some ID Lube. It feels like the real thing. Enjoy!:lol:

No,it doesn't.

At least not me,I don't know about other people.I like to be both top and bottom but only with dickgirls.:)

Never liked men,never thought about having sex with them.Simple as that!

That or bisexual. I'd guess the majority of shemales and ladyboys are gay. Irrelevant really.

Bisexual means I like both men and women.

Tgirls are women trapped in a man body,not gay men!

At least that's what I think...

I'd guess if they intend to keep their dicks, they don't feel trapped. At least for me, the feminine and masculine nature of a shemale, feeds into my bisexuality. Like the best of both worlds :drool:. I even like tomboys.

If it does then I'm a professional homosexual. :p

I always feel more comfortable after reading threads\posts like these!

i got the same problem . but i like the shemale with tiny soft dick

Hey guys! It's my first message on this forum)) I have the same fillings and situation as you, my friend! Cool to know that you're not alone))

I was pretty queer long before I ever heard of shemales, but it was just my Jody Foster phase and I got through it with a minimum of humiliation. But yeah - for me, any sexual attraction I feel for other girls (regardless of their chromosome structure) makes me feel like a little brown dyke. Can't help it, I'm catholic.

What other people think about me is none of my business....LOL

shemales
 

Liking shemales does not make you gay at least you are already a gay. I really like them,I wanna fuck them all night long,but that does not make me gay,you just have to realize it for your self. The sad thing is that most of people ignore you,"friends" leaves you and so on... They just cannot understand you in any possible way. Like I said,I want to meet a T girl and have sex with it,even with my girlfriend in.

I know its easy to say but just try go with the flow and see where it takes you. I have a long term ( female ) partner who i love and who turns me on every time she takes her clothes off. It just happens that im also attracted to shemales too ( yes my partner knows ). I would never dream of cheating but if i ever end up single at some point in my life, i would probably explore it with a shemale and see what the real life experience was like. I do not consider myself gay or even bi

Jesus 18 pages and going strong.

Your gay if you like the same sex as yourself, end off.

Unless your a Shemale, liking Shemales isn't gay.

The answer is ---does it really matter ??? If you enjoy a girl's cock as either a top or a bottom go for it and stop worrying about labels----what it really makes you is a hedonist.

Some people say that a man is gay if he is sexually attracted to Shemales. The reason being that they have dicks, so to be attracted to someone with a dick is to be gay.

I would then say to these people that according to their warped logic a man would be straight if he were to be attracted to Buck Angel. The reason being that he has a pussy...

They would then realise how idiotic they really sound :D

I wrote that a couple of years ago as “aw9725.” My only sexual experiences have been with ciswomen but I am (obviously) attracted to transwomen as well and if I weren’t married I would be actively looking for a relationship. There have been many questions posted on this site about whether this attraction “makes you gay” or not (I personally don’t believe so—it’s not that simple—but all of us do share an attraction to women with cocks) but I occasionally like to reflect on my own experiences growing up to see if there were ever any signs that I might have been attracted to another guy.

Anyway, I thought of another experience from the summer that I turned 12. There was a younger boy who lived down the street who used to really look up to me. He was 10 and now that I think about it, quite feminine although I didn’t really think about it a lot at the time. He was cute with long hair and freckles and much smaller than me. In fact the other kids used to call him a “f**” and a “girl” and stuff like that. Although not when I was around.

By 12 I was already over 6’ tall and had been lifting weights since I was around 8 or 9. I was always good at sports and had a dirt bike. Most people thought I was much older. What I remember is that this kid used to follow me around and somehow we became friends. I guess I felt “protective” of him and looking back realized I probably was attracted to him. Unlike me, he was not into contact sports or hard rock, or motorcycles but liked things like video games, pop music, shopping, and gardening. His mom drove us to the mall one time (the Somerset Collection in Troy, MI for those who are from around there). I never thought about much it until now but it seemed more like a “date” than hanging out with my guy friends. And he was very smart. Very “studious.” I always got good grades but couldn’t have cared less about studying or doing homework. (That would change when I got into graduate school however. LOL)

I taught him how to throw a baseball and shoot a basketball. And some basic stuff on how to defend himself. And I used to take him for rides on my dirt bike. He would sit on the back with his arms wrapped tight around me. His family was wealthy and his dad was always away on business. As was my dad much of the time. He used to come over to our house a lot. I remember one time that he came over to play videogames and my mom made us lunch. It was summer and he was wearing very short shorts. We were alone sitting close together on the couch and I remember getting a hard on. I had never had those kinds of feelings for another guy before and wasn’t sure what to do. At that time I had never even masturbated to orgasm let alone done anything else although I knew from Playboy, Penthouse, and my older guy friends about “sex.” But not much else. So nothing happened. But being around him I felt the way I did around girls. Also I wasn’t exactly sure how he felt. Maybe I was more like a “big brother” to him? I never told anyone about it. Besides we were only like 10 and 12!

After that summer we drifted apart. We remained friends through high-school where I became the “football star” while he found a place on the cross-country team (and set a school record). Both sports compete in the Fall and once during practice my senior year I remember seeing him wearing shorts and a cropped t-shirt and thinking he looked really “hot.” I know he came to some of my games and I always hoped he was watching when I scored a touchdown or made a tackle. But by then we were totally in different circles (high-school is like that sadly) and I had a girlfriend. We moved down here (Indiana) after I graduated from high-school and my friend and I lost contact. Like my dorm mate from college, I often think about him and wonder what might have been.

Incidentally these two friends were among the inspirations for the story "How I Met My Wife." A lot could have happened between college and now... what if somehow we were to run into each other? ;) Although my "future wife" in that story is almost 10 years younger! :lol:

Glad you liked it. Thanks! :cool:

I'm working on a story about the summer I spent with my friend and what might have been. My "problem" is that we were both under 18 so I have to figure out a way to deal with any sexual activity other than kissing. We were both very young (I turned 13 in August of that summer and him 11) and total virgins so I don't think anything "explicit" would have happened anyway. What I've written so far deals more with the feelings and emotional attachment I had for a person that may well have been gay or trans. I tossed out a draft that had us "fooling around" in my bedroom because I didn't think it was appropriate. I guess I could always have us going away to college together... :innocent:

When I think about him now I realize that that was a pivotal relationship in my young life. I often wonder what happened to him?

I read your story (really hot by the way) and think I came to like tgirls from the opposite direction. I never was attracted to guys, even feminine ones, but I've read other admirers' stories who can look back and point to someone they knew growing up who was girly that they found attractive

For me I always had a thing for amazons, big strong women who other guys would compare to men. The wrestler Chyna is a good example. People would always say she was manly but I would watch her matches on TV and get incredibly aroused thinking how much I would love to feel her muscles.

The weird thing is that when it comes to tgirls I like all types!

Thanks, glad you enjoyed it. I updated it with parts 3 and 4. Hope you like Stephanie's dance costume ;) thanks for the idea!

Hope others on here like the story, It's definitely not a "suck and fuck a hot ladyboy" type of thing (not that there's anything wrong with fucking and sucking a hot ladyboy :innocent:). But it IS based on a real friend I had when I was very young. :heart: Just don't know if it has general appeal.

Also, like you I am attracted to strong sexy ciswomen. I thought Chyna was hot as well. My current "crush" in the sports world is Ronda Rousey.

A

I read the last two parts of the story. Good stuff.

caught by a trap?
 

Funny, and interesting, how some of us came to like T-girls in such different ways! In my case, it followed an infatuation with a very convincing female impersonator/dancer (who still looked quite female-ish even without make-up, wig, heels and slutty clothes). But at the time (2003), i didn't know much about male-to-female transsexuals and believed they were merely transvestites who had decided to go "a step further" by adding breast implants and stuff... It took years before i became better informed about who transsexuals really are and what they go through in life:eek:

Okay, so you say you like all types of T-girls, right? Well, i like them as close to a hot young femboy as possible, with cute small breasts and without any desire to have S.R.S. ever, which i'm well aware, could make me a tad gay in the eyes of some folks:frown: (can almost hear them ask: "Why the heck is it so important for you that they keep their penis??" My reply then, would be like, "Ah you know, i just feel that's what makes them so exotic in the first place"):innocent:

Besides, let's face it, if they were all post-op, forums like this one would very likely not exist...

IMO, No. It just makes you a very Healthy & Open Minded Person

Being a Huge Anal Sex Fan, and having a woman who can / will return the favour of Butt Fucking is wayyyyyy kewl :cool: and a Major :turnon:

The End

Upon further analysis, I spoke too soon. I can't honestly say I like all types of tgirls although I do find a wide variety of them attractive. Asian ladyboys don't do much for me and I can't say I'm all that in to plus size models although genetic BBWs like the zaftig Dilyara Larina excite me.

My attraction to penis is something I haven't quite figured out yet. I remember the first time I saw RuPaul. Tall, statuesque, with a stunning wardrobe, make up, and hair, I was instantly attracted. I knew she had a dick but it was easy to fantasize she didn't.

Later I saw pictures of Vanessa Del Rio sporting a strap on. The sight of this voluptuous woman with a tool was really exciting to me although I felt weird about it. Then I saw Gia Darling for the first time and everything changed! The tgirl bug bit me and bit me hard.

I used to try to block out the cock when watching transsexual porn but I came to enjoy seeing it more than vagina.

The more I have given this question thought the more I am convinced the answer depends entirely on the individual. In a sense, “we are all right.” The answer will be different for each of us depending on our unique experiences although we do share some common interests. Speaking totally for myself, I am attracted to the female person and “secondary” sex characteristics regardless of whether or not they have a penis or vagina. There is definitely a “type” of woman I am attracted to. This femininity could present itself in many ways: the beautiful ciswomen I have known (including my two wives), the beautiful transwomen featured on sites such as this one, a sexy crossdresser, a pretty femboy, or someone like my friend “Stephanie.”

Kelly Shore has a penis, Rakel Rodrigues has a penis, Hazel Tucker has a penis. To say I am totally smitten with all three would be an understatement. :heart: Buck Angel has a vagina, however I am not attracted to his masculine characteristics although he seems really cool and I admire his physique. Am I “gay” because I would prefer to have sex with Kelly instead of Buck? I think not. Others may disagree. My point is that our sexuality and gender identification has a lot more to do with the bigger picture and not simply what sex organs are “down there.”

Consider the many posts on this site regarding attraction to “the cock.” Do you simply like “cock” no matter what context it is presented in? Do you like it on a large muscular male? Or do you like it on a pretty, feminine, person who you would find attractive even if she was fully clothed? Personally I only find a “cock” attractive on the latter and consider sucking a beautiful transwomen’s or femboy’s penis in the same context as I would licking my wife’s clit while performing oral sex on her. If you think this is “gay” than please tell me why? Now sucking off the Indianapolis Colts… THAT I would consider “gay.”:lol: As far as having intercourse, it is not uncommon for “straight” couples to engage in anal sex. My wife and I occasionally do. So if I were to meet a beautiful transsexual and the two of us hit it off I would have no problem taking her back to my place and engaging in oral and anal sex with her (assuming I wasn’t married of course… :innocent:). Would I consider it “gay”? Hell no.

There undoubtedly is a connection between the Gay and Lesbian communities and the Trans community. I think all of us here are pretty “open minded” toward sexuality. And as this thread clearly shows, there are almost as many thoughts on this issue as there are members. Yes, some people might consider attraction to a beautiful transwoman “gay” but I think they would be wrong. Slowly society is coming around to recognizing this. So I guess the bottom line is it’s all good. It is 2015 for Christ’s sake! You should be able to fall in love with, fuck, suck, live with, marry, whatever, the person you want without having to worry about silly labels. Future generations will look back at this period in history and wonder why we were so confused and “messed up” about human sexuality. I hope I live long enough to see that day. :cool:

This is the best thing I've read on this subject. :respect:

To me a TS is like a woman with a big clit, nothing more nothing less, so imo there's nothing gay about it.

I'm new to this site and to be honest I have zero experience with a lb. I too have a strong attraction to females with a cock. I don't find anything sexy about men. The cock needs to be on a feminine body. My fantasy is strictly bottom though. I don't know what to consider myself but I know what I like and what turns me on. Maybe someday I will get my lb experience.

I don't know if i already answered this but
 

To me i know that I'm not gay and I'm attracted to shemales & ladyboys and when & if I'm dating 1,when & if i put myself out there dating again & if i choose to all i see is a beautiful woman to me anyway that i find her attractive and farther more transman are a man transgender or not he is still is a man and transwoman,T-girls,shemales & ladyboys are a woman transgender or not she's still is a woman.

So it depends on what he/or she identity himself/or herself as like what a9127 said and if they're still together i like to say to both a9127 and his woman congratulations & that I'm happy for them i hope this helps some :).

Im the exact same! i dont see it as gay and i often refer to ladyboys as girls. im attracted to the feminism of ladyboys and not the male anatomy.

No. Girl with a cock excites me but not a man..

Of course it does, and now get over it and enjoy it! Jeez, why would that be a problem? For me it's actually the opposite. it makes me straight, sort of... :-)

does liking shemales make you gay?
 

I am not trying to be obnoxious to you in any way but it's basically old-world thinking, take it easy on yourself. We don't live an a black/white world and never really did through history. Shemales & hermaphrodites are as old as time. Some consider them the 3rd sex.

No it doesn't make you gay. If you are attracted to the femininity and the hair and makeup and the sexy hairless legs, smooth underarms and boobs without a hairy chest and the makeup, nail polish, emotions and so on then you are not gay. We are not men.

OK so I have a penis but it is small due to HRT. I have a bob but also an undercut even for my age.:rolleyes: I have betty bangs and yes even for my age also. I have a penis but I am not a man.

Why do so many men question themselves over this subject? We or I do because I can't speak for all trans women, fully embrace my femininity. I am not a feminist. I just want to feel feminine. I just want be be treated like a woman. I have nothing to prove to anyone.

OK so I like men. Does that make me gay? I don't believe so because everything from emotional to psychological to presentation is female. Maybe even ultra feminine. With my exes I always got up early and showered and shaved. If he liked beauty in the morning then I would do my makeup and fix my hair even though I would have to shower again to wash my face and reapply my makeup and refix my hair again.

OK so we trans women a lot of time have to put out twice the effort to please our guys. We ughh...Want a man for the most part. I am bi but definitely lipstick lesbian or transbian.

We just want to be treated like any other woman. We want to feel special and cherished by you. so no None of YOU are gay. Actually in my opinion you are probably more secure in your masculinity than a lot of other men that trash us. I believe they trash us because they are scared of themselves because they find themselves attracted to us.

So no you are not gay. We have a little extra but that isn't what attracts you to us in the first place most if not all the time. It is our femininity and sensuality that attracts guys to us. So don't listen to the asses on Springer. They knew. They accepted a BJ anyway and then they act all surprised when the girl tells them.:rolleyes: That is a piss poor excuse.

Hell No!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well as a new member of this board I can say that i'm a straight male though the idea of being with a shemale kind of intrigues me. In fact, over the last year or so i've found myself being turned on by shemales and I was starting to worry a bit but now i'm more comfortable with it. Part of that is why i've joined this forum. I've never told anyone about my feelings but it makes me happy and as long as I don't feel like i'm being judged than i'm cool with discussing all things shemale on a forum such as this.

Besides, it's all sex, love and happiness. So long as it isn't illegal I say do what makes you happy. :)

I don't think anyone here is going to judge you for liking t-girls!

Look. It isn't that rare. Being attracted to shemales is not uncommon. LOL it is way more common than you may think. I mean it probably isn't the genitalia you are attracted to but rather the femininity.

I can't and won't speak for everyone. But I cherish my femininity. I embrace it fully. I don't want to be your gender equal. I would rather be your gender complimentary. Does that make sense?:confused:

So let me try this again. For my guy I get up early and shave my legs and underarms and other places if he prefers.:blush: I fix my hair even though I may not do my makeup and definitely brush my teeth. But cactus legs? No he don't need to and probably don't want to feel or even see that. I love dressing girly and femme. I don't even go grocery shopping without makeup and I damn sure don't wear sweats to the store unless they are pink.

As for my first paragraph and it being way more common? Guys tend to have better legs than a lot of women. A lot of shoe advertisements you see with the sexy legs? Some of those legs are actually guys or shemales. I prefer being called a transwoman though but whatever.:)

So in short whoever you are attracted to is OK. We are in 2016 after all. So if you are gay then that is OK. If you are bi then that is OK too. If you are into trans women then that is fine too. To me you are totally straight because its the femininity you are attracted to and not the genitalia. I smell, I walk and a talk like a woman. Emotionally and psychologically I am a woman. I just have a penis that don't work like a guy's. Oh I can orgasm but not like you though.

You get a different opinion from just about every person sometimes I have been told that it made me bisexual and it was by two girls that are bisexual they have sex with each other and guys and transgender girls too and also other girls. But I'm not sure that I really agree with them I have no attraction to men at all in fact the thought makes me sick but a beautiful girl was a long hard cock or even a tiny one which is very ladylike is just so sexy and hot and I have been with one girl in the beginning it was quite the surprise that she had a lump I wasn't expecting and she put my hand right on it is really sitting in public had dinner. But I didn't even have to think about it I immediately got turned on and got hard as a rock and after dinner in a few drinks that night we went back to her place she knew enough about me at this point to have plenty of gin, hey she knew that made me Brave and horny I was already horny but this would really increase it and let me very brave we didn't stop until the weekend was over. And until she had to move to take your permanent job in another state we were definitely a couple. I couldn't suck on her enough I never wanted to stop I never wanted to take my hard cock out of your tight sexy ass it was wonderful and I want this again but I have no interest in guys at all but a beautiful girl with the cock I am just fascinated by it drives me absolutely crazy.

The answer is No.

The Eskimos have at least 37 words for snow. Because they understand the various gradiations of different types of snow, where we can't comprehend so many forms and try to fit everything into a handful definitions - like snow, powder, sleet, slush.

That's the exact struggle that many Ladyboy lovers have - they try to fit their desires and attraction into a limited vocabulary and even more limited understanding of Western culture. Straight, Gay (and maybe Bi). For those with the least understanding and most comprehensive limitations, it's binary: "DUDE, you are either Straight, or you are a Big Homo!!!!"

Gay guys generally do not like Ladyboys/Shemales. And visa versa. We know that. And almost all lovers of Ladyboys/Shemales would describe themselves as Straight. Yet probably, there needs to be a gradiation built in the spectrum because being attracted to Ladyboys may be classified as Straight if you are only on a binary scale (i.e. Straight and Gay), yet if you added more definitions, and more subtleties and understanding, you would have many more definitions in the spectrum describing a lot of different tastes and attractions - which can even evolve over time in a human being.

I think one experience I can share with you - which is a third party EXPERT weighing in is that of Lusi Mustang - the legendary Thai Ladyboy. One time, I had a session with her and another Ladyboy. We had such a great time, she invited me out to party with her and her friends. We dropped Ecstasy together. It was awesome.

And later in the night, when we went back to her apartment, I asked her this question. "Lusi, does loving Ladyboys make me Gay?"

She replied "NO WAY!" and shook her head as if laughing at me for asking such a silly question. There was no way, in her understanding that I could be classified as gay to her - and she knows straight guys, gay guys and ladyboys. The important aspect is that we were both under the influence of something that is like a truth serum. Ecstasy makes people totally connect and you cannot lie on it. Otherwise, people will pick it up. Plus your real self is revealed to the other so they can totally read you. So she knew me - very deeply. And she knew this topic, very authoritatively. And she was not capable of lying - and gave a vehement No! to the answer.

I know this can be a struggle for some but the battle is trying to fit yourself into definitions that are limited, where you have a more profound understanding of different types of femininity and masculinity out there. Just as the Thai's and other groups, like Japanese, believe there are three genders, don't struggle trying to fit yourself into the binary definitions of the West.

I am a Straight, masculine male. I love GGs and I also love LBs.

L M A O Great Answer franalexes :cool: Short, sweet and to the point.

Still after all this time soooo many long winded answer's . . yet the condensed answer is still NO !

Sooooo, stop banging ya wieners on the keyboard and get fappin' if ya can't get the real deal :innocent:

Merry Christmas Everyone :respect:

No it don't make you gay or bisexual. I mean you like trans women for what? If it's just the cock then you may be bisexual or gay and not wanting to accept it to yourself but if it is the femininity that we embrace then no. To me you are totally straight as far as I am concerned. I mean there is no problem with liking cock. My best friend is gay and has no sexual desire for anyone feminine. A lot of cis women seem to want to be equal with men and try to shed their femininity. Well we are equal but we are different too. Masculinity and femininity are meant to compliment one another regardless whether cis or trans.

But no. I see you as straight.

Short answer, no it's not gay

most of the guys attracted to shemales are more staright on the scale than gay, researches say and that's how i feel.
if 10 is completely striaght and 0 gay, i would put myself on 8, attracted only to feminie but also transexuals

Yes. I’m sure it does. I've been a member here since 2009. Lately I’ve been picking up male prostitutes and bringing them home. My wife is getting worried… :( :lol::lol::lol: