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aw9725 11-12-2009 08:40 PM

Good one! I especially like the "bottle opener." Very clever... :respect:

The Conquistador 11-12-2009 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by 7.62x54r.net
When out of ammo, your rifle makes a supreme war club, pike, boat oar, tent pole, or firewood.

http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinHumor.htm


Gotta love that sturdy Russian construction...;)

The Conquistador 11-12-2009 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by aw9725 (Post 116842)
Good one! I especially like the "bottle opener." Very clever... :respect:

How else would the Russians open bottles of vodka in a combat zone?


I can't believe that the PPSh drum mags are sturdy enough to hold someone up! :eek:

jimnaseum 11-14-2009 07:05 PM

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I meant, was there one who robbed you violent or threatening at/in your home, while you were home.
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When I lived in a bad neighborhood, I was jogging around the hood and some crack dealers threw a rock at me, so I scooped up a small rock and returned fire. The next thing I know, some hopped up jig is attacking me with a "for sale" sign from my next door neighbor's townhouse. While I was considering my options, two more Brothers were running toward us, I thought "Well, now I'm either dead or saved" Luckily, they grabbed their homeboy and pulled him back to their corner. I had a couple other showdowns with young black males, in every case, they knew where I lived.It cost me $100,000. to get out of that place.

When I used to go shooting I used a .22 because the ammo was so cheap. My buddy's sexy 9MM was so expensive to shoot, an afternoon of snorting coke would have been cheaper! I actually bought an pellet airgun from Walmart w/ scope for under $25, but it was pretty accurate for a toy.

The Conquistador 11-15-2009 01:34 AM

That chick would be hotter if she had a dong. However, a woman with a gun is still sexy!:yes::yes:

The Conquistador 11-17-2009 12:38 PM

One of the few times I condone killing people...
 
Some asshole splatters a dog by dropping it off a bridge:

http://www.liveleak.com/item?a=view&...f04_1258418085


This video made me want to puke.

The Conquistador 11-29-2009 11:25 PM

Range time
 
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My buddy and I went to the range to test fire his new Springfield 1911.:eek:

The first picture is of the police qualification target at 25 feet.

The second is me posing with his Springfield. :)

Rachel 12-01-2009 02:31 AM

Next week
 
Next week I'll be defending the tree stand against any marauding bucks

The Conquistador 12-01-2009 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Rachel (Post 120055)
Next week I'll be defending the tree stand against any marauding bucks

Don't forget to post some pics! :)

DSL 12-01-2009 04:57 PM

new hangun
 
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Well i just picked up my new revolver today its the new Taurus .45/410 Revolver it is chambered both for the .45 cal long colt and the 410
shotgun shell! my gun is like the one in the pic. but mine is 3" Matte Stainless 2 1/2" Chamber Crimson Trace Grip 5 shots. i fired it at the range today
and it was awesome hardly any kick, i fired it point blank about 5 feet away into a watermelon 2 shots they was nothing left!. at the price of $425
i will be using this gun as my every day carrying gun i like this gun because of the shotgun shells can be fired out of it.

jimnaseum 12-01-2009 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DSL (Post 120204)
i will be using this gun as my every day carrying gun.

Try not to pull a "Plaxico Burress" with that cannon!

My buddy had an old Army .45 that had been bored out to fit a 12 gauge shotgun shell, it had been machined to lever open and eject the spent casing. It came from Nam and had both US and Chinese serial numbers on it.
I almost purchased it for $100, but really, what's it good for except a few years in jail? I wish I had taken some pictures of it, though.

DSL 12-01-2009 07:01 PM

thanks for the warning i will use the 410 i haven't tried the .45 shells yet
i will pick a box this weekend and let you know the 410 was nice tho
what a mess!...

The Conquistador 12-01-2009 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jimnaseum (Post 120224)
Try not to pull a "Plaxico Burress" with that cannon!

My buddy had an old Army .45 that had been bored out to fit a 12 gauge shotgun shell, it had been machined to lever open and eject the spent casing. It came from Nam and had both US and Chinese serial numbers on it.
I almost purchased it for $100, but really, what's it good for except a few years in jail? I wish I had taken some pictures of it, though.

That's why you never tell anyone that you have that kind of shit. Loose lips sink ships. ;)

The Conquistador 12-01-2009 08:04 PM

Hey DSL! What kind of shot do you have for your Judge? (not that there is much choice) Lemme know how the .45 Colts perform; I'm thinking of getting a Judge, a Tokarev or a 1911 in January.

DSL 12-02-2009 02:12 AM

Well it was the 410 shells i used to fire into the watermelon
thst split it all over the place with 2 shots so i will be useing
the 410 XX shells then after firing i turned and said to my friend
one shot is what its worth!.


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Originally Posted by TheAngryPostman (Post 120242)
Hey DSL! What kind of shot do you have for your Judge? (not that there is much choice) Lemme know how the .45 Colts perform; I'm thinking of getting a Judge, a Tokarev or a 1911 in January.


The Conquistador 12-02-2009 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by DSL (Post 120340)
Well it was the 410 shells i used to fire into the watermelon
thst split it all over the place with 2 shots so i will be useing
the 410 XX shells then after firing i turned and said to my friend
one shot is what its worth!.

I meant the size of the shot. #2, #4, 000, birdshot?, things like that. Sorry about the misunderstanding.;):cool:

DSL 12-02-2009 04:19 PM

oh sorry well i use 00 buckshot ammo i picked up a couple of boxes of 45's
i will try those tomorrow.

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Originally Posted by TheAngryPostman (Post 120347)
I meant the size of the shot. #2, #4, 000, birdshot?, things like that. Sorry about the misunderstanding.;):cool:


DSL 12-02-2009 04:22 PM

Taurus 410/45
 
Here is the taurus 410/45 video in action

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ORlYmHtx78

alphanumeric 12-02-2009 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by TheAngryPostman (Post 116309)
This is correct. Situational awareness can help you avoid alot of problems before you even get into them. As the Russian proverb goes,"The bear who spots the trap cannot be caught".

The mind is the most dangerous weapon; everything else is just a tool, an extension of your body.

Agreed if there was ever a horrible example of not practicing situational awareness it was those unfortunate officers in Washington state.

Rachel 12-05-2009 08:36 PM

deer hunting
 
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Originally Posted by TheAngryPostman (Post 120112)
Don't forget to post some pics! :)

Well if I get one I'll be sure to post some pics Wish me luck!

The Conquistador 12-05-2009 09:15 PM

Good luck!


On a different note, do you bowhunt?

Rachel 12-07-2009 06:55 PM

bowhunting
 
Yes I bowhunt though I havent in a long time. Tried to get my equipment back in shape but it was too late in the season this year. Had to get a new bowquiver the arrow holders had dried up and crumbled away. I used to shoot in target and bowhunter leagues. This was the first year that crossbows were legal in new jersey. I actually got to shoot one at a sportshop. I want one! lol On another note Had my younger son out today for the opener of 6 day firearm buck season. This was his 4 th trip out and finally we some some deer. saw 5 Unfortunately I inadvertantly spooked away a 6 pointer on him :( Felt really bad. Told him ahhhh well you'll never forget this day and will be cursing me still 30 years from now lol. Like losing a big fish it was the first of many deer you will see but not get son. He took it like a trooper though.

DSL 12-08-2009 06:07 PM

I had a bow and arrow set but i sold the whole set for $50 had a 80 lb pull to it. why i sold it because i moved into a smaller apartment i use to do
bow target pratice also.
cross bows are illegal in the state of Ma. not sure why tho
i think bow and arrows are just as deadly as cross bows.

rhythmic delivery 12-15-2009 06:47 PM

i feel sorry for anyone who feels the need to carry a concealed weapon or even to have one at home. you must all be living in fear. what happened that made you think shit i need a gun with me at all times, you must live in a real shit hole area.

jimnaseum 12-15-2009 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by rhythmic delivery (Post 122698)
i feel sorry for anyone who feels the need to carry a concealed weapon or even to have one at home. you must all be living in fear. what happened that made you think shit i need a gun with me at all times, you must live in a real shit hole area.

Every time I go to Court, I notice a Police Officer with gun on hip standing next to the Judge.

rhythmic delivery 12-15-2009 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by jimnaseum (Post 122723)
Every time I go to Court, I notice a Police Officer with gun on hip standing next to the Judge.

what does that have to do with anything, are you saying thats why you feel the need to be armed 24/7? if so wow, i hate to think what you would do if you ever saw anything scary happening.

jimnaseum 12-16-2009 02:57 PM

Well, for one thing, I doubt the 2 million people in US jails would go there if you just said pretty please. Hopefully the psychos with guns are in jail now. My relatives in the country all have guns. Cars are much more deadly than guns, but I still drive one.

DSL 12-16-2009 03:20 PM

No i don't live in a shit-hole actually its a pretty quiet area and building too
i have moved here since july 15th and been quiet since other then a couple
of house breaks down the street from me and a stabbing but thats about it.
but my building does have security cams dead bolts outside entry door and
my apartment door 3 locks.

The Conquistador 12-16-2009 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DSL (Post 121436)
I had a bow and arrow set but i sold the whole set for $50 had a 80 lb pull to it. why i sold it because i moved into a smaller apartment i use to do
bow target pratice also.
cross bows are illegal in the state of Ma. not sure why tho
i think bow and arrows are just as deadly as cross bows.

Oh hell yeah! Bows with at least 55 lbs. of pull and the right arrowheads can do a shitload of damamge! I remember reading somewhere that Welsh longbows had like 70+ lbs. of pull to them; some of them having 100+ lbs. of pull to them!

Remains of longbowmen found lots of deformities in them because the amount of pull overstressed their bodies, most notably, their shoulders, wrists and elbows.

DSL 12-16-2009 06:58 PM

The pull on that thing was like trying to pull a mac truck! but it was nice,
at 55 yards away i was getting dead center strikes, it was a bow i had ordered from bass pro shop a few years ago and it was ashamed to see it go!...

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Originally Posted by TheAngryPostman (Post 122867)
Oh hell yeah! Bows with at least 55 lbs. of pull and the right arrowheads can do a shitload of damamge! I remember reading somewhere that Welsh longbows had like 70+ lbs. of pull to them; some of them having 100+ lbs. of pull to them!

Remains of longbowmen found lots of deformities in them because the amount of pull overstressed their bodies, most notably, their shoulders, wrists and elbows.


The Conquistador 12-17-2009 10:23 AM

I took archery as a kid. Even though I sucked, it was still fun. :)

mix3r 12-17-2009 05:51 PM

I fight professionally so if theres anything you guys need to know about un-armed combat feel free to send me a private message. I'll post more tomorrow for you guys cause I'm still limited to that whole 5 post thing for now but hey, If anyone has any questions feel free to ask and I'll try my hardest to help

kilich321 12-17-2009 06:21 PM

guns??????????
 
thats what we need everyone with guns.... what the hell.. selfdefense? forget about all that high kicking 1 punch knock out rubbish, unless you practice it nearly daily, your just gonna get yourself in trouble (and a black belt means you can only kick arse in your club- some clubs hand out black belts just if you can afford the price). if you really need some lessons then try krav maga, but you still need to practice, power doesnt just happen no matter how many weights you lift. need speed and technique, plus knowing where to strike. best bet is to take your heels off throw it at them run and dial the police on your mobile then run to a place with the most people.. if you can get pepper spray, THEN RUN.. be aware of your surrondings, dont venture into situations (when alone) where you maybe vunerable.. is not a perfect world, be aware of where your walking. dont think cure think prevention..
blah blah blah..
finger nails in the eyes (hard, not a little poke), real hard kick to the bollocks (following through), punch to the throat (again hard, if you have no training dont pressume you can hit like tyson, because you cant..)
the eyes and throat , as you know are sensetive dont be striking to the just cause they called you ugly, life threatening situation- then leave no doubt, strike hard, with conviction, THEN RUN.
sorry but cars are more dangerouse then guns.. only because they are more available. last i heard it wasnt cars being used in wars (unless they were getting blown up, it was guns). bank robbers dont use cars to hold up banks, the SAS dont rescue hostages using a nissan (unless its a jean claude vann dame film!!)..

aw9725 01-30-2010 10:51 PM

Saw some of this go down as I was on the way home Friday. I shop at this Wal-Mart occasionally. At night... I like it 'cause it isn't ever crowded. LOL!

http://www.theindychannel.com/news/22379097/detail.html

The Conquistador 01-30-2010 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by aw9725 (Post 130576)
Saw some of this go down as I was on the way home Friday. I shop at this Wal-Mart occasionally. At night... I like it 'cause it isn't ever crowded. LOL!

http://www.theindychannel.com/news/22379097/detail.html

You saw that happen?

aw9725 01-31-2010 12:47 AM

I believe it had just happened. I had to pull over for like six or seven IMPD cars, an ambulance and fire truck. They all turned into the Wal-Mart parking lot and by the time I got there everything was blocked off.

There was also a local news van and a wrecker picking up what must have been the victim's car. They had "taped off" the area around the car and there must have been 12-15 police in the area.

Anyway, going shopping was out--so I headed home. I knew something major happened but thought it was a drug bust or something. When I got home I checked the local news web page and learned about the shooting.

The Conquistador 01-31-2010 01:55 AM

I bet you're glad that you have your kubaton huh?

nino198610 01-31-2010 06:37 AM

quotp
 
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Originally Posted by johndowe (Post 109813)
Hi there.

The problem with guns and those who carry them is, that first and foremost, shooting a target is very easy, shooting another human beeing is very hard, even shooting an animal is hard the first time when hunting.

If you are carying a gun, if you pull it out you have to be ready to use it, because most of the slime you will have to pull it out on know that a "normal" person will find it VERY hard to shoot someone.

Which brings me to the second thing, if you pull your gun and you back down you place yourself at even greater risk of getting hurt, and even beeing taken down and shot with your OWN gun.

And third it takes 2 of 3 things to shoot someone (for the first time anyway):

- Alot of stupidity, and disregard for human life.

- Alot of fear for your life and hatred of your opponent.

- And the ability to override your sence of wrong when you are about to squeeze the trigger.

It takes a realy disgusting person to kill someone for the only reason of wanting others to fear him, and such a person would deserve to be killed himself to prothect others from him, but doing so would place you in the same path as he was.

And killing someone is only the begining, you HAVE to live with it for the rest of your life, that and the fact that if he was part of a gang, the others will likely come after you, and then you have to kill them or they kill you, you have to remember that while they ARE cowards, they have been embolden by being part of the gang and the "safety in numbers" it generates, so they WILL come after you.

And the cops aren't much help either, they will treat you as a suspect, and even if they know that you acted in self defence, they cannot do anything to help because of A) They are afraid of the gangs, and B) They are out gunned by the gangs And C) The law is too soft and criminals are not rehabilitated, and the death penalty is alnost never envoqued, and when it is they get stay of execution, after stay of execution, which there should only be 1 or 2 permited afterwards, they would be dis-regarded.

So where are those super heroes when you need them?

JohnDowe.

quoto al 100%

aw9725 01-31-2010 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by TheAngryPostman (Post 130616)
I bet you're glad that you have your kubaton huh?

Never leave home without it! :lol: Seriously, I typically carry my .40 with me when I shop there late at night. I am more afraid of coming out of the store only to find my car stolen! :(

ila 01-31-2010 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by aw9725 (Post 130684)
Never leave home without it! :lol: Seriously, I typically carry my .40 with me when I shop there late at night. I am more afraid of coming out of the store only to find my car stolen! :(

I must live in paradise compared to your city, aw. I always leave my car unlocked when I go into any of the stores or shopping malls around here. I've never had anything stolen from it nor have I ever had my car stolen or damaged. I even leave my car unlocked when it's parked in my driveway. I don't drive an old clunker either.

aw9725 01-31-2010 08:22 PM

ila and all my friends on this forum,

Sometimes I think it’s just the United States that is more violent. I have always lived in fairly affluent neighborhoods outside of big cities (Detroit, New York, and Indianapolis) but there has always been present the threat of robbery, burglary, or murder.

That particular Wal-Mart is only about five miles from where I live. Currently I live in a very nice “Townhome” complex whose residents are mostly upscale professional types and boasts a couple of Indianapolis “Colts” among its members. To the West are the suburbs of Brownsburg and Avon where I lived when I was in high-school and all the time I was married. Avon, in particular, has a “meth” problem--we experienced a rash of burglaries in our own neighborhood ($500K and up homes) while I was married. Our house was a 6000 sq ft “McMansion.” Not exactly the slums.

To the East on 86th street is the “Keystone Crossing” Fashion Mall. Very upscale. The biggest danger there is you might be run over by a Hummer or hit by a speeding Porsche! If you head North, you will run into Hamilton county which features $1M+ homes. Don’t know who all lives in them. Mostly CEO’s, Colts and Pacers, doctors, attorneys, etc. Larry Bird has a 12,000 sq ft home up there somewhere. Don’t hear about a lot of crime up that way! :lol:

South of me is the “Lafayette Square” area. Once a beautiful mall and place to hangout. The gym where I worked as a trainer in high-school and college was there and is no more. That entire area has since declined and the mall has mostly shutdown. It is a sad ghost town. I drive by it every day on I-65 and am glad I don’t have to stop at a light or have a flat! One of my nursing “colleagues” husband had his new truck “carjacked” at gunpoint while he was at the McDonalds there last year. Another had his car broken into. The last time I shopped there was about five years ago with my “ex.” We made jokes about getting mugged!

My campus is located “in the city” and we have had our share of “incidents.” A man was murdered on the golf course across from our campus, a Butler University policeman was shot and killed a couple of years ago--all Indianapolis schools were placed under “lockdown” and we were alerted since we are close to them. A public park just down the street used to be one of the city’s major sites for drug deals. A few students have had cars damaged or been assaulted. There was also for a time, a department store that was converted into a “Country & Western” bar complete with mechanical bull. The surrounding community is predominately African-American. FAIL! The city finally got smart and took its liquor license away after several people had been injured in fights or killed. We now have our own University police that carry guns and routinely patrol the neighborhood. I think the area is safer now than it was. I don’t worry too much myself but I don’t usually stop ‘till I get home. I do sometimes play golf on that course. But I am such a terrible golfer that I am usually the most dangerous thing on the course! ;)

Downtown, our biggest attraction is the “Circle Center” mall. Very nice but the parking garages are patrolled only by unarmed “mall cops” and have been the scene of several robberies and assaults. My “ex” and I had an “incident” there that I wrote about in an earlier post. I was there just last December with my new ladyfriend and didn’t have any problems however. Long before my family moved down here, there was a series of “bombings” in Speedway (near the 500 track) and also a gruesome (and still unsolved) murder of several young people. They were called the “Burger Chef” murders (“Google” it!). It’s still there but it is a “Payday Loan” place now or something. Even the area around the famous “Motor Speedway” is bad!

I wish I had an answer. There seems to be a definite correlation between economic decline and rate of crime. For myself, I know I don’t really feel in danger most of the time but I wouldn’t dream of leaving my car unlocked. And when I go downtown, if I am not “carrying,” I am at least very “aware” of my surroundings and avoid dark areas, elevators, etc. If I’m with a date, I’m even more careful! Just after the semester let out, several of my colleagues and I met for drinks. Somehow, we ended up on this topic of “crime” and “self defense.” We all discussed what we would do and how one might “avoid” bad situations in the first place. I shared how I approach this problem. They all burst out laughing at the idea of anyone picking a fight with me or trying to rob me. I guess I don’t look like an “easy” target! :lol: They also know about my background in martial arts and how much I lift. But still, I don’t take anything for granted--you never know what you might run into, how strong your opponent is or how many there might be, or if they are on “PCP” or something, or if they are armed. And if you do seriously hurt or kill someone, you are going to have to show it was unavoidable and in self-defense. I don’t care what anyone “says”--you most likely WILL be treated as a suspect. And that gun better be legal!!! The book I mentioned in an earlier post: “In the Gravest Extreme.” Read it.

Months ago, I started this thread in hope that others here would be encouraged to take a stand against violence by learning how to defend themselves. The transgender community seems to be a prime target for acts of violence. Singled out simply because of who they are. And often smaller or weaker than their attacker. Plus, the violence seems to be at an “excessive” level--the attackers don’t just want to hurt their transsexual victim--they want to kill. The more I learn about such incidents, the more I realize that these “hate” crimes have a more sinister motivation than most types of crime. So, I was advocating learning “self defense” from many perspectives--including “self awareness”--and yes, carrying a firearm--if it is legal to do so in your area, and you are trained in its use. I was glad to see that there were others on here who felt similarly and also worked out, practiced martial-arts, carried knives, pepper spray, and even guns. However not everybody is mentally prepared to take aggressive action or to go so far as to hurt or kill an attacker. My intent was to get people who maybe felt helpless and scared to start thinking that it’s OK to defend yourself--you don't need to live in fear. There are many martial arts you can learn, many weapons to carry. And I don't want this to become another "debate" about calibers or "styles." It can all be effective!

This is turning out to be a long post so I should wind it down. I’m not sure about the “socioeconomic” reasons for violent crime or the decline of our cities (I have read a lot about it and have my own theories). Nor will I ever understand fully the mind of the “hater” that attacks someone just because they are “different” (race, gender, nationality, gay, strait, bi, trans, whatever…) or the mind of a killer like “BTK” or Ted Bundy, or Jeffery Dahmer, etc. Finally, I’m not going to debate “gun ownership” with anyone (I respect your views) or get into a “pissing contest” with anyone (after all, I've learned everyone here packs a .50 "Desert Eagle" and knows Krav Maga), or talk about “fear or respect” anymore. If you are really interested in learning a martial art, or getting in better shape, or learning to shoot, I would be glad to give you some advice. I know a lot about it. And I’m really a nice guy! Trust me. Just one who figured out a long time ago when he was a skinny little kid in Detroit the best way to be safe was to be strong--and well prepared.

Peace,

Andy :respect: :cool:

aw9725 02-04-2010 04:29 PM

Indianapolis is indeed a dangerous city. :( Since my last post (only 3 days ago!) we have had at least two more homicides. Also our university police issued a warning that there have been several vehicle thefts on our campus this past week.

One thing that keeps our crime stats "looking better than they really are" is the inclusion of the wealthy suburbs such as Carmel and Fishers just to the North.

Here is an interesting blog on Indianapolis crime:

http://indianapolistimesblog.blogspo...ime-stats.html

indyzzzz 02-09-2010 01:39 AM

I guess that MMA class I was thinking about taking is a no-go huh ?:p

The Conquistador 02-11-2010 03:04 PM

I just bought an M7 bayonet for an M16/M4/AR-15 style rifle. Pics to come!

The Conquistador 10-13-2010 06:42 PM

Just picked up my Glock 17 today! Pics to come!

The Conquistador 10-13-2010 08:21 PM

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My Glock and my bayonet! :) Yay!

tslust 10-13-2010 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by TheAngryPostman (Post 160927)
My Glock and my bayonet! :) Yay!

great pics:inlove:

smc 10-14-2010 07:12 AM

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Far be it from me to comment on the employment of firearms or sharp objects for self-defense by any member of this site, but personally I have succeeded rather well over the years using this:

The Conquistador 10-14-2010 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by smc (Post 160961)
Far be it from me to comment on the employment of firearms or sharp objects for self-defense by any member of this site, but personally I have succeeded rather well over the years using this:

There is always that one time where your dome is not enough. I am just prepared for that time when I may need to use both. :)

The Conquistador 10-14-2010 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by tslust (Post 160935)
great pics:inlove:

Thanks alot! :hug:

smc 10-14-2010 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by TheAngryPostman (Post 160980)
There is always that one time where your dome is not enough. I am just prepared for that time when I may need to use both. :)

I assume that by "your" you mean yours, Postman. Because you wouldn't want to presume how powerful mine is, or that of anyone else, right? ;)

The Conquistador 10-14-2010 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by smc (Post 160994)
I assume that by "your" you mean yours, Postman. Because you wouldn't want to presume how powerful mine is, or that of anyone else, right? ;)

I'm being realistic about it. You can minimize the occurance of a theat by being sensible and staying away from a risky situation/area(i.e. using your noggin), but no matter how much you minimize an occurance, the threat is still present.

Think of it as a spare tire, jack and tire iron for your well being... ;)

smc 10-14-2010 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by TheAngryPostman (Post 161052)
I'm being realistic about it. You can minimize the occurance of a theat by being sensible and staying away from a risky situation/area(i.e. using your noggin), but no matter how much you minimize an occurance, the threat is still present.

Think of it as a spare tire, jack and tire iron for your well being... ;)

I think you have perceived only part of the point I was making. Yes, I use my brain to minimize threats, make sensible decisions, and stay away from risky situations. You correctly call that "using your noggin." But I also use it as a weapon. I have used the power of persuasion to win what would have otherwise been a fight involving violence on more than one occasion. (I have little doubt that I would have lost had the threatened violence ensued.)

I call the latter "using your wits."

The Conquistador 10-15-2010 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by smc (Post 161060)
I think you have perceived only part of the point I was making. Yes, I use my brain to minimize threats, make sensible decisions, and stay away from risky situations. You correctly call that "using your noggin." But I also use it as a weapon. I have used the power of persuasion to win what would have otherwise been a fight involving violence on more than one occasion. (I have little doubt that I would have lost had the threatened violence ensued.)

I call the latter "using your wits."

I understand that. It is always advisable to de-escalate a potentially harmful situation without using physical force. I keep my guns and steel as a last resort; I would never use it as a means to defuse a situation where the outcome could have turned out otherwise had someone been talked down. Of course persuasion and reason is the best way to win a fight and being able to talk someone down is preferable to shooting them. However, the situation dictates the level of force and you will know quickly when a firearm or blade will become absolutely necessary. Diplomacy and verbal persuasion is not always effective against your local crackhead/tweaker, espesially if they have themselves a nifty crowbar or knife and are coming straight for you. In that event, I let John Moses Browning or Gaston Glock do the "persuading" for me. Usually, the sound of racking a weapon is sufficient to let someone you know mean business.

I pray to God that I never have to shoot someone in defense of myself and I hope to God that I never have to live with the burden of taking someones life. I am just prepared for a time when I may be confronted with the options of kill or be killed.

franalexes 01-24-2011 03:36 PM

hot stuff with cool heat
 
For many years in the course of my job, I carried a .357. I never had to use it. I got rid of it a few years ago. With the advent of a few serious crimes around and a friend expressing some consideration of my present living style; I went out today and re-armed.
I got a good deal on a S&W .44 Russian. I tried it too. First shot set me on my ass. :blush: I learned quickly to stand correctly. I can now hit a soda can at 60 feet. The .357 would break a bone. The .44 is heavier but slower. It removes the bone! Whatever I don't like that's on the outside; is going to stay on the outside.
Am I being too paranoid about carrying heat? Ive been n situations where heat keeps things cool.

randolph 01-24-2011 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by franalexes (Post 172763)
For many years in the course of my job, I carried a .357. I never had to use it. I got rid of it a few years ago. With the advent of a few serious crimes around and a friend expressing some consideration of my present living style; I went out today and re-armed.
I got a good deal on a S&W .44 Russian. I tried it too. First shot set me on my ass. :blush: I learned quickly to stand correctly. I can now hit a soda can at 60 feet. The .357 would break a bone. The .44 is heavier but slower. It removes the bone! Whatever I don't like that's on the outside; is going to stay on the outside.
Am I being too paranoid about carrying heat? Ive been n situations where heat keeps things cool.

A few years ago, my wife left the house and pushed the wrong button on the security pad and it sent a security breach message to the Sheriff. In the meantime, I came home and went up to my office. Later I heard something downstairs. I walked out of my office to be faced with two officers pointing their guns directly at me and yelling "freeze". Naturally, I did (almost froze to death, lol). It's a good thing I left my magnum 12 gauge shotgun in the room. :eek:

katieayanami 01-30-2011 12:03 AM

i never go out alone for the most part without an escort.
i get too many people following.

smc 01-30-2011 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by katieayanami (Post 173387)
i never go out alone for the most part without an escort.
i get too many people following.

That's not difficult to imagine. You'd certainly turn my head! :yes:

katieayanami 01-30-2011 01:36 AM

i know i am not completely passable but i know that alot of guys like the femmeboy thing so that adds to it.

Trogdor 01-30-2011 01:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by katieayanami (Post 173398)
i know i am not completely passable but i know that alot of guys like the femmeboy thing so that adds to it.

Or you got the crackpots, upon finding out what you are, might not be happy.
I am always for concealed weapons, since bad guys prefer the would be victim to not be armed, and the cops only show up to clean up the mess after one's body has gone cold.....plus a lot of cops can be just as dangerous as the people they are supposed to protect us from.




And you're pretty passable to me, Katie. :cool:

SluttyShemaleAnna 01-30-2011 05:36 AM

Wow, I didn't realise so many of you lived in Somalia and had to brave bandits and paramilitaries that roam the streets slaughtering innocents every night. Not living in a lawless failed state likr you guy, I can't really appreciate the need to be tooled up with dozens of guns, ready to defend against armed thugs which I assume must be beating at your doors every night and ambushing you as you make a dash through the crossfire in the streets. Good luck to you guys, I mean personally I don't feel the need to carry a gun, I just keep my can of lion repellent handy, I mean, a lion could escapes from the zoo at any time and devour me, you have to be prepared right. This is also why I keep my combined meteor strike sheild and lighting conductor with me too, I don't wana be a victim!

randolph 01-30-2011 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SluttyShemaleAnna (Post 173408)
Wow, I didn't realise so many of you lived in Somalia and had to brave bandits and paramilitaries that roam the streets slaughtering innocents every night. Not living in a lawless failed state likr you guy, I can't really appreciate the need to be tooled up with dozens of guns, ready to defend against armed thugs which I assume must be beating at your doors every night and ambushing you as you make a dash through the crossfire in the streets. Good luck to you guys, I mean personally I don't feel the need to carry a gun, I just keep my can of lion repellent handy, I mean, a lion could escapes from the zoo at any time and devour me, you have to be prepared right. This is also why I keep my combined meteor strike sheild and lighting conductor with me too, I don't wana be a victim!

It's a good thing you are well armed but you didn't mention trouser snakes. They are quite common you know. ;)

franalexes 01-30-2011 08:57 AM

Two
 
I figure there are two kinds of T-girls;
those that have been threatened and asaulted;
and those that are going to be.

Trogdor 01-30-2011 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by franalexes (Post 173431)
I figure there are two kinds of T-girls;
those that have been threatened and asaulted;
and those that are going to be.

Yep, a few years ago here in Detroit, 2 of them got beat up when they went out on a weekend night, if my memory serves.

JodieTs 01-30-2011 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by franalexes (Post 173431)
I figure there are two kinds of T-girls;
those that have been threatened and asaulted;
and those that are going to be.

The sad truth is that one could also accurately say
transsexual females
&
recently transitioned transsexual females,
respectively.

franalexes 01-30-2011 08:35 PM

A few days ago a fellow member (TS) asked me why we are here on a porn website full of perverts? ( Yes, her actual words.)
Not sure why but I want you guys to know that not all aspects of our lives are as glamorous as your fantasies would have you believe.
Jodie, if I didn't use the right words, feel free to add to them.:respect:

ila 01-30-2011 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by franalexes (Post 173528)
A few days ago a fellow member (TS) asked me why we are here on a porn website full of perverts? ( Yes, her actual words.)

Help me understand this. Transwomen want to be accepted, but yet if a guy likes transwomen then he is a pervert?

Respect is two way street. Respect the men if you want respect in turn. It is uncalled for to refer to all men as perverts.

Last point; why would someone that refers to men on here as perverts come on here herself?

franalexes 01-30-2011 09:37 PM

Now Ila , I'm sure she wasn't refering to ALL. But sometimes predominant thoughts are caused by a bad experience by a few.
You will have to ask her for an answer to your second question. pm me if you want to explore further.

franalexes 01-30-2011 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ila (Post 173541)
Last point; why would someone that refers to men on here as perverts come on here herself?

Maybe she wasn't here searching for you.:no:
Maybe she was searching for me.:yes:;)

randolph 01-30-2011 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by franalexes (Post 173545)
Maybe she wasn't here searching for you.:no:
Maybe she was searching for me.:yes:;)

The term "pervert" has many meanings. Current usage usually refers to sexual behavior. Some people would consider anal sex perverted. Some people would consider oral sex perverted. My impression is that no one participating on this forum would consider either of these activities perverted, per se. It's the exploitation of another human being for selfish gratification with no regard for the other person that, to me, is a perversion.

JodieTs 01-31-2011 03:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ila (Post 173541)
Help me understand this. Transwomen want to be accepted, but yet if a guy likes transwomen then he is a pervert?

Respect is two way street. Respect the men if you want respect in turn. It is uncalled for to refer to all men as perverts.

Loopy tranny
It goes like this.
"I can never date a man who knows and accepts I'm a Ts
coz he is a perv only into me coz I have a penis"
"That's why I only date men who have no idea of my past"
"And I only tell them after we go to bed
and after he has found a penis rather than the expected vag"
"One day I hope to have a second date...."

Quote:

Originally Posted by ila (Post 173541)
Last point; why would someone that refers to men on here as perverts come on here herself?

Yes Ila it's a very good point.
It's not like you can miss the sites probable nature
given its address: Transladyboy.
The sad thing is that this person used to be a man
but now has tits & six inch heals,
and a ludicrously high-pitched pantomime-dame-type voice,
and a skirt length which maybe ok on a sixteen year old girl,
but not the 55 year old they actually are.
No guesses as to who the general public would see as the pervert!

Oh if anyone is interested, I've found a YouTube video of them:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxLBpa7g5fg

JodieTs 01-31-2011 03:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ila (Post 173541)
Help me understand this.
Transwomen good.....men pervert bad?

Well I used to get a kick at the entrance to tranny clubs.
I'd lean over to the cashier and ask
"Does this club have changing facilities
and is there a conveniently placed chair?"
They would look at me confused as I started saying this line, long after I had transitioned.
"But you are a woman, why do you want changing facilities?"
" I love watching men strip off and then dressing up as women,
....it really turns me on" :lol::lol::lol:

I am a very very bad person and must stop saying things like this, just to annoy people. :):):):innocent:

randolph 01-31-2011 11:40 AM

Jodie "I can never date a man who knows and accepts I'm a Ts
coz he is a perv only into me coz I have a penis"

Why would wanting to suck a shecock be perverted when eating pussey is ok? Is it perverted when on a date with a girl, you are thinking about her pussey? If I was dating a TS, I would definitely be thinking about her shecock.

JodieTs 01-31-2011 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by randolph (Post 173622)
Jodie "I can never date a man who knows and accepts I'm a Ts
coz he is a perv only into me coz I have a penis"

Why would wanting to suck a shecock be perverted when eating pussey is ok? Is it perverted when on a date with a girl, you are thinking about her pussey? If I was dating a TS, I would definitely be thinking about her shecock.

I've no idea at all Randolph.
The truth is it's all the same.

You need to be patient and wait for the ts who wrote to Fran, to let us know.
Seems a bit weird for a person to join a site called Transladyboy
and then gripe about the sites nature and people it attracts.

I'm dead curious to know what she makes of me or Fran or Bionca.
Our motivation will be a little different to most of the men here, yes.
But we are still on here posting.

I hope this one runs a bit, sure to be entertaining. ;) :yes:

aw9725 01-31-2011 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ila (Post 173541)
Last point; why would someone that refers to men on here as perverts come on here herself?

I didn't realize my "ex" was a member of this forum... :lol: :lol::lol: Sorry couldn't help it! :innocent:

randolph 01-31-2011 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JodieTs (Post 173578)
Well I used to get a kick at the entrance to tranny clubs.
I'd lean over to the cashier and ask
"Does this club have changing facilities
and is there a conveniently placed chair?"
They would look at me confused as I started saying this line, long after I had transitioned.
"But you are a woman, why do you want changing facilities?"
" I love watching men strip off and then dressing up as women,
....it really turns me on" :lol::lol::lol:

I am a very very bad person and must stop saying things like this, just to annoy people. :):):):innocent:

Your post just made me remember an experience years ago. I was in a bar in Tucson. A nice girl came over and gave me a lap dance. After a couple of beers I went into the bathroom. Sitting there behind a table covered with all kinds of cosmetics was a nice looking guy. I felt startled and very uncomfortable. I took a leak and left. I guess I was in a tranny bar and didn't know it. :cool:

shoreleaveoic 05-29-2011 02:21 PM

Better to have it and not need it...then not have it and need it.

It always amazes me that despite where you go in the world minority groups have a firm distaste of arms, yet the majority of people always have a monopoly on arms.

In America most guns are owned by white males. Meanwhile groups that probably need arms (from a historical standpoint such as racism, prejudice, institutionalized segregation) always are vehemently against ANYONE owning arms.

Blow the mind away....does anyone read history books?

Look into the history of gun control in America, Germany, Japan, etc....that alone should be proof that everyone should own weapons.

If you want information, an organization called "Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership" has made a video you can buy or find online that documents the real purpose of gun control.

And before someone says "In japan they don't have guns and low crime so it would work in america too, hur dur!" Your forgetting an important cultural factor, East Asiatic peoples have a different culture than Western Peoples. Try this experiment out one day, walk into a bar in the USA, Mexico, or Jamaica. Slap a man sitting at the bar as hard as you can. Then try the same thing in a bar in Japan, China or Korea. In one country the people may yell, say something, and curse....in another country you will be killed! Its not the weapons, its the culture.

Hell, look at video games. Japan makes Super Mario and Street Fighter II. Both cartoonish games...we make Mortal Kombat and Call of Duty. You can't just ignore culture factors and assume guns make people violent.

Bottom line, don't depend on police, boyfriends, neighbors or the good nature of others for your own personal defense. Get a Glock, get a reloading press, practice and carry it daily...or continue rolling the dice and hope things work out in your favor. People ask me why I carry a gun, then I ask them why they wear a seatbelt, or have a fire extinguisher, or insurance...etc....

tslust 05-29-2011 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shoreleaveoic (Post 186332)
Bottom line, don't depend on police, boyfriends, neighbors or the good nature of others for your own personal defense. Get a Glock

Glocks are crap, I'll keep my Smith & Wesson.:lol::kiss:

The Conquistador 05-30-2011 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tslust (Post 186346)
Glocks are crap, I'll keep my Smith & Wesson.:lol::kiss:

To each their own. I have a G17 and it works and feels just fine. :)

tslust 05-31-2011 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shoreleaveoic
Bottom line, don't depend on police, boyfriends, neighbors or the good nature of others for your own personal defense.

Can't depend on cops, prosecutors, and judges. The best justice is in my holster.

smc 05-31-2011 04:57 PM

I continue to believe that the best defense is a good offense. :yes:

SluttyShemaleAnna 05-31-2011 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smc (Post 186564)
I continue to believe that the best defense is a good offense. :yes:

So what does that mean? Do I go round and exectute any suspected criminals?

edit: oh wait, I found exactly what you meant! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-mwrH87Ncw

smc 05-31-2011 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SluttyShemaleAnna (Post 186571)
So what does that mean? Do I go round and exectute any suspected criminals?

edit: oh wait, I found exactly what you meant! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-mwrH87Ncw

I actually meant taking steps to change the world such that criminality, for example, is reduced drastically. But your YouTube posting works, too. :lol:

Enoch Root 05-31-2011 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SluttyShemaleAnna (Post 186571)
So what does that mean? Do I go round and exectute any suspected criminals?

edit: oh wait, I found exactly what you meant! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-mwrH87Ncw

Mother of god. I think I'll end up in one of those sheds if ever I step foot in Arizona.

tslust 05-31-2011 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smc (Post 186593)
I actually meant taking steps to change the world such that criminality, for example, is reduced drastically. But your YouTube posting works, too. :lol:

What about these steps: 1. Shoot first 2. Ask questions later

smc 05-31-2011 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tslust (Post 186611)
What about these steps: 1. Shoot first 2. Ask questions later

Yeah, that's really worked out well over the course of history. :no:

tslust 05-31-2011 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smc (Post 186613)
Yeah, that's really worked out well over the course of history. :no:

Sigh I guess you're right. But, I can think of one SOB that I would love to introduce to Judge Colt.

JodieTs 07-26-2011 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KittyKaiti (Post 111090)
You're European I take it?
Now if you're like me and live in the ghetto and are a transsexual, you are at extraordinary risk of assault, rape, murder, home invasion, etc.

But guns are not only for keeping out criminals but also for keeping out the government.
Look at the United Kingdom. These countries are decaying into Police States and the people have no defense.

Totally spot on.
The state {UK} will not protect us
nor allow us to protect ourselves.
They just don't care.

JodieTs 07-28-2011 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tread (Post 111352)
It would save much more life if more people would learn first aid than having a gun for home defense.

Why should a Thief kill you and should other people invade your home?

Quote:

Originally Posted by KittyKaiti (Post 111090)
Only an idiot would say something like "What are the chances of a home invasion actually happening? I don't really need to be prepared."
Now if you're like me and live in the ghetto and are a transsexual, you are at extraordinary risk of assault, rape, murder, home invasion, etc. I highly recommend arming yourself if you fall into this category of "high risk persons", such as myself.

In Europe and pretty much everywhere in the world, you have been stripped of your only defense against totalitarianism. Look at the United Kingdom. ...decaying into Police States and the people have no defense.

The UK is shit. And yes it has become a police state.
All the criminals are armed.
The rest of us are not.
it is illegal.
Even if we defend ourselves we are arrested.
And Transsexual women are very high up the stats for being murdered.
If you whore as well, your life expectancy drops to that of a Mayfly.

dailymail.co.uk Manchester-shopkeeper-72-stabs-armed-robber-death-florists.html
Yesterday, a 72 year old florist was playing dominoes.
His shop was shut.
Two armed men broke in.
There was a scuffle.
One of the armed robbers was fatally stabbed.
The shopkeeper was injured and taken to hospital.
The shopkeeper was also arrested on suspicion of murder.

For fucks sake, he should have been given a community medal and award.
He was later cleared. www.independent.co.uk/florist-raider-cleared-of-murde But that's not the point. He shouldn't have been arrested.
Norway. If some of those 75+ murdered teenagers had been armed then that nutter would have been killed before he had spent a whole hour executing them all.

Europe is shit.

JodieTs 07-28-2011 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NCC-1701 (Post 111597)
What worries me when i read this topic, is that how often crimes of an extreme nature seem to happen in america. This is just my thoughts, but surely if guns were illegal, sure you wouldent have one, but neither would the criminals. So crime would decrease. But thats just my 2 cents.
Is there any Tgirl from the UK or elsewhere who needs to defend themselves on here? it would be interesting to find out how. as guns and knifes are illegal to carry in this country.

I'm in the UK.
There is a huge volume of gun and knife crime.
All guns and all locking knives and all knives over 3" are illegal.
These laws have not reduced the crime. The armed crime has gone up.
The armed criminals don't obey the law. Which makes things very unbalanced.
Police response times are massively variable. Most crimes they don't even come out to.
Trans escorts. In Birmingham there are asian and eastern european gangs targeting gay male escorts and trans escorts
to do gang rape and assault on them.
So what do we need? Besides a miracle?
Guns. Lots of guns. ...
queue Matrix lobby scene...

JodieTs 07-28-2011 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rachel (Post 112039)
Hey Tread what do you guys do over there if someone breaks into your home with the intent to rob and maybe hurt you?

We get assaulted robbed murdered.
You knew that though.

Suckslut 07-28-2011 02:10 PM

I thought the UK has a very low murder rate?

Something like a couple people a year or something?

JodieTs 07-28-2011 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by franalexes (Post 173431)
I figure there are two kinds of T-girls;
those that have been threatened and asaulted;
and those that are going to be.

I'm not so sure.
I know a lot of other transsexual women;
but I don't know any who have not been threatened or assaulted.

JodieTs 07-28-2011 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suckslut (Post 192197)
I thought the UK has a very low murder rate?

Something like a couple people a year or something?

Nope
http://www.telegraph.co.uk Murder-rate-increasing-amid-epidemic-of-knife-and-gun-crime

dailymail.co.uk/news/article The-violent-country-Europe-Britain-worse-South-Africa-U-S

www.dailyrecord.co.uk/2011/04/04/scotland-in-the-grip-of-murder-mayhem-as-homicide-rate-soars

www.murdermap.co.uk

http://www.ukdebate.co.uk/What does everyone here think of gun control? ---look at the table stats on the first post.
Legal carrying of weapons correlates with less crime.
I'd suggest its just the possibility that a person is armed, will dissuade attacks.

JodieTs 07-28-2011 05:17 PM

What about the bullets?

JodieTs 07-28-2011 05:22 PM

In a situation
never shout out for help
never shout "Rape"
never shout "I'm being attacked"
never shout "call the cops"

You will generally be ignored
(People are like that...Huge studies about group negation of responsibility)

Instead shout "Fire"


This will get everybody running over and confuse the attacker/s
they will think you are a loony ie. unstable, unpredictable,
which is good.

The Conquistador 07-28-2011 09:16 PM

@ Jodie: It's such a shame to see the murder rates of the UK. When I see stuff like that in the news, it makes me glad that I spent that $300 on my Mossberg 500.

How does Parliament expect to save England from the threat of zombies when everyone is disarmed? I am sure Misters Lee and Enfield would see the folly of such gun control.






PS: I'll be sure and send you a shotgun for Christmas... ;)

KittyKaiti 07-28-2011 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Conquistador (Post 192255)
@ Jodie: It's such a shame to see the murder rates of the UK. When I see stuff like that in the news, it makes me glad that I spent that $300 on my Mossberg 500.

How does Parliament expect to save England from the threat of zombies when everyone is disarmed? I am sure Misters Lee and Enfield would see the folly of such gun control.

WOOT WOOT for the Mossberg 500. I got one too with the pistol grip and M4-style retracting stock, 7 + 1 capacity. :cool:

SluttyShemaleAnna 07-28-2011 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JodieTs (Post 192234)

What a collection of joke articles.

UK murder rates may be higher than in the 60's however they are still about 1/4 of the murder rate in the US.

Those graphs in your last source as ridiculous. The ones for US cities that supposedly show murder rates dropping or increasing in response to gun laws don't show anything of the sort, they almost all show the change in rate starting or entirely occurring before the law changes. The Washington and Chicago ones that supposedly show a rise after handgun bans show murder rates staying steady for about 10 years after the bans (when they had previously been rising), then they both rise suddenly around 1990, oh, wait, that's when the US went into recession.

The daily mail article (there's the clue it's bullshit, anything in the daily mail, assume the opposite it true) is a complete joke, because as anyone who payed attention to the news knows, they changed the categorisation of violent crime in the UK to include common assault and affray where people are not injured (infact in affray you don't actually have to even have to have touched), whereas other countries only count crimes as violent if someone is actually injured. The articles does infact even admit itself that it is a crock of crap, and that crimes rates are falling since 1995.


And whoever wrote about the Norwegian Terrorist attack, that if only the kids had guns... Are you seriously suggesting that we should be arming children? do you really think that's a good idea to give kids guns. How about you mention that the shooter bought his gun legally, and he got high capacity magazines by mail order from the US.

Criminals always get hold of guns illegally, but they are used almost exclusivly against other criminals, almost all deranged killers who have gone on sprees use legally bought guns, and it's the high capacity magazines that gun nuts insist on keeping legal that allow them to murder such high numbers of people.

As for the 'police state' argument what a load of moronic shit. Lets remember which country STILL has warrantless wire taps, secret searches, tracking your internet, your mail, and even books at your library, has corrupt judges locking people up for money, runs an offshore gulag and has the highest prison population per capita in the world. I don't see any gun waving crowds fixing the situation in the US.

JodieTs 07-29-2011 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Conquistador (Post 192255)
Jodie
How does Parliament expect to save England from the threat of zombies when everyone is disarmed? I am sure Misters Lee and Enfield would see the folly of such gun control.

PS: I'll be sure and send you a shotgun for Christmas... ;)

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Zombies are actually not a problem in real terms; here's why:
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I've actually got an S.P.A.S. 12...
http://i685.photobucket.com/albums/v...0212Medium.jpg

My 'nick' is "Duck" hence the logo and word scratched on the folding stock.
Ok ok that's CoD: Black Ops.
{real guns scare me}


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