That may be true, but not all GG can have children of their own either(due to several circumstances).

Wish-fulfilment and Reality
 

I so agree with this. A lot of people don't wish to understand because it's easier just to go along with current social mores or one's own lust-needs ( if you're male ) than to acknowledge and support some people who are, well, just different. This forum has been a tremendous educator for me, and I'm still learning, still adjusting my mind-set as I go along.

After all, what do women want plastic surgery for ? Why are women so image-obsessed ? ( I think I could answer that but it would take up a hell of a lot of thread space, and would be highly subjective ). Do they achieve satisfaction ? Yes, most do, when they have altered their perception of themselves and it has been acknowledged by the world-at-large. For the Transwoman it is a much harder road. Many of you are already experiencing this and surmounting the problems as you meet them, hopefully with the support of this forum and other agencies.

For me the main question has always been, not one of acceptance, but WHY.
But this is covered in quite a number of other Threads.

For those of you who are struggling through the pain and trauma towards Transition, I have nothing but admiration for your fortitude and courage. Some never complete, by their own choice or because of circumstances, and they have to come to terms with that incompleteness. But I guess this applies to all of us who feel unfulfilled in some way.

Yes, guys, satisfy your needs for sexual stimulation on this Forum, by all means, but acknowledge and respect those who are her for reasons other than your own.

:)

"Why do some of you guys see transwomen as second class?" Some guys are despite being interested, are still blinkered by conventional thinking that is still repressed and ignorant. Anyone who doesn't treat a lady with respect is the one who is second class.

seen this
might need new thread

http://www.secondtype.sixserve.com/pregnant.htm

anyone heard anything 'bout this?


As far as being second class, dude this is the internet, what do you expect
if some new form of media came out it would not be long before women and then trans-women probably too would be subjugated as slaves of men's sexual desires, and all because it pays well, well to whoever that is that's making it. Anyway it comes down to money and lust, men like boobies, some men like money just as much, and they will sell you the boobies:lol: or something like that. I for one would like to meet someone in person, the internet kind-of blows for that, its so easy to find porn, but try to meet a nice normal;) person forgetaboutit

i know quite a few girls who have dumped their boyfriends for not giving them the respect they deserve such as being embarrassed for being seen in public with them. These girls are gorgeous and passable. But these guy just are not mature enough to handle a relationship with a tranny unless its just to fuck and run

I hate that word "passable." Ugh. It's so demeaning. A transwoman is who she is, period. She doesn't have to "pass" for anyone but herself.

I would gladly step out, with you or any other transwoman on my arm, in any public place. Period.

They gonna kick themselves later. :p

Whomever I am with, I only hope they got a good, well made pair of shoes/boots, because me and her are going to be going out each time we can. :hug:

Shall I bring you something heavy to throw?

Kuranyi, I think you just pwn'ed yourself on that bit. :frown::rolleyes:

As soon as you publicly date a transexual, count on the added benefit of getting rid of all fake friends, leaving only real friends.

I know this is porn site, but I would like to touch here more social questions. I hope you will understand me correctly. I know, that I'm not perfect and that I don't know much here, but at least I try to understand Tgirls. I don't see them as sex toys but as normal human beings. I know I could not help here a lot, but I at least accept them and recognize their needs and rights. There is too much hostility, violence, suicides and killings in their population.

I have a question here about trans people in their childhood and adolescence. I know, that trans people don't have synchronized bodies and brains, what is, maybe term is not the best, a kind of birth defect. If child is born blind, or with heart defect or anything else, family and specially parents accept this and try to help them. Also a state with their institutions in that case somehow help parents that they easier deal with child's problems. Why not transexuality? How young children show and at what age, that their brains and bodies are not synchronized? How doctors and other state institutions help here parents to accept this fact and properly deal with children? If parents accept that child, love that child and help and guide that child through life, than siblings and environment could also accept and tolerate them. The problem is, that people don't see them born unsynchronized and that this is not their fault. If family could not accept them, than how could others? Here is a long way, but this problem must be talked in public. First of all, state laws must define their status and give them the same legal rights as all other people have. Than must state help parents to accept them and properly care for them in their childhood. People must be educated about trans problem, than we could expect people will be more accepting to them and be less violent.

Maybe my questions and thoughts are not proper for this forum, but I don't wont to be ignorant to this questions. After all who could guaranty me, that my child could not be trans? What to do then?

Humans are ignorant and resistant to anything that is different. Your analogy to children born with "defects" is incomplete in this respect. It is not that long ago in human history that blind and deaf children were herded off to special institutions away from their parents. It is even less time ago that those born with developmental disabilities were given any chance at a life outside of being locked up in horrific prisons masquerading as hospitals.

Education, time, and vigilance of those of us who see as you do are required to combat the challenges trans people face when it comes to being accepted. Vigilance means that we never, ever accept the prejudice without confronting it, calling it out, and defending trans people against attack.

This thread is old but its lesson is timeless.

I'm glad you said "by no means all." :) I would hope my posts and stories speak for themselves. If any of you feel that I am in the "you guys seem to see t-girls as somehow second class" category then obviously you don't know me very well.


(Yes I realize the OP hasn't been on here since 2010.)