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View Poll Results: Escorting, does it rule out romance?
Yes, my girls must be pure 11 14.10%
No, being a sex worker is often a TS's best option for survival 25 32.05%
Depends 40 51.28%
Are you kidding? I can't even bring myself to take a TS to lunch 5 6.41%
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It wouldn't bother me at all. I would actually enjoy it if she came home a little 'messy', if you get where I'm going with that.
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Hey if we love each other who cares what kinda "job" she has. As long as she takes precautions to stay disease free does it matter that she wears knee pads to work? Just think of the all the guys she meets in a week. You could chronicle her career in a book or even several books and make a fortune. I would be more concerned with the following:

1. In later years you can both see the same urologist.
2. Damn! Honey, have you been using my rogaine?
3. Smoking! Seems like most of those "gals" haven't heard the word yet about
how bad smoking is.
4. Get 2-for-1 deals on wigs.
5. Help her pick out a draw string for her anus.
6. When you get up to pee at night she's already sitting there on the can!
Why? Because you are both genetically identical - XY!


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Hey if we love each other who cares what kinda "job" she has. As long as she takes precautions to stay disease free does it matter that she wears knee pads to work? Just think of the all the guys she meets in a week. You could chronicle her career in a book or even several books and make a fortune. I would be more concerned with the following:

1. In later years you can both see the same urologist.
2. Damn! Honey, have you been using my rogaine?
3. Smoking! Seems like most of those "gals" haven't heard the word yet about
how bad smoking is.
4. Get 2-for-1 deals on wigs.
5. Help her pick out a draw string for her anus.
6. When you get up to pee at night she's already sitting there on the can!
Why? Because you are both genetically identical - XY!


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thats almost funny, except its not. And I don't smoke or wear wigs. Your stereoptypes have contributed so much to the dialogue.
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Old 11-22-2008
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Agree with CreativeMind, he has good standpoints and its only ridiculous to call them "fascist".
He is NOT what TS or women in general hates most, its rather all what Melissa stands for that is a nightmare for most men who wants a serius relationship.

You know nothing, I live it I am it you show us nothing, until then you're a 1" x 1" anonymous square.
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LMAO!!! Wait...wait...I have to come to Smoldering's defense because once again this is just TOO good to pass up. Tell you what, Ms. Ego Head Case, here's what no one can comically fathom...

If you actually have "thousands of fans" who adore you AS an artist and a writer (your exact words), then WHY the hell would you even NEED to work as an escort? Seriously, if you're a REAL writer or artist with "thousands of fans" then WHY do you need to have sex with strangers for cash? Not to mention, if you have such a large and committed fan base that is SO dedicated to following your creative work -- which in turn MUST give you some economic freedom -- then WHY would you also possibly jeopardize any loving relationship that you could pursue by being a sex worker?

Me, I just ask speaking as someone who actually HAS written things that have sold in the thousands (and thousands and thousands on top of that) and who HAS made a living as a professional writer. But a funny thing, while I was out at the bank cashing my checks, I don't recall ever needing to work as an escort on the side. Nor do I recall suddenly feeling an urgent need to screw around on someone that I was currently seeing. Why? Gee, maybe because actually having thousands of people purchase my work actually did allow me to pay the bills, which in turn allowed me to center my romantic focus on whoever I was seeing at the time.

So, who exactly are these "thousands of fans" adoring you? I just ask (and openly mock) considering that each of your posts contains the link to your web site, which in turn leads to your online blog. Yet I see that your latest blog entry generated a whopping ONE guy posting in the comments section.

Gee, claiming to have "thousands" of fans versus ONE guy visiting your blog and people now not even booking you.
Yeah, those numbers balance out... in a Twilight Zone dimension!



LMAO!!!!!! Now you're a "revered" member of the TS world? You're suddenly a perceived LEADER in the TS world? Gee, that's rather laughable since it's coming from the very same person who previously has ranted that she would NOT help anyone coming up behind her or be supportive with advice or offer any help to a fellow TS. So, with an attitude as self-serving as yours, now you think you're "revered" by your fellow TS?

Well, why not?
Since you have imaginary fans, you might as well believe in imaginary adulation TOO
Why don't you visit other pages of mine loser, try this one:

http://360.yahoo.com/hottiemelissa2004

Oh gee 290,000 page views.

Go to any one of a dozen different transsexual sites and say something negative about me (www.hungangels.com, www.shemaleyum.com, www.thereroticreview.com, www.bestgfe.com, www.shemalereview.com) they will rip you a new asshole. But that's probably what you want.


And while you're at it, read some of my published stories right now all I see is a guy claiming to be an actor a writer an artist. Tell us who you are Bruce Willis or is it Tom Clancy?

This is the last I'll say about it, I actually have to get ready for my implant surgery, see I have a life, a life that apparently 290,000 times was worth readinmg about.

Case closed, go back to your pathetic snipes you look silly.
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Why don't you visit other pages of mine loser, try this one:

http://360.yahoo.com/hottiemelissa2004

Oh gee 290,000 page views.

Oh gee, more fun with fake Melissa math.
Of course, as is usual with Melissa-isms, you have to read between the lines...

Gee, 290,000 views over 2 1/2 YEARS? Wow, that number means so much to a guy whose last project sold 70,000 in one month alone. Which means you're also not even in my league since another project of mine sold nearly 1,000,000. Oh, and in case you're mathematically challenged, Melissa, that's 70,000 plus the 1 million plus the figures on other things, which means my numbers instantly dwarf your 290.

Not to mention, page "views" are always a deceptively false number. In fact, here's a news flash for you about Yahoo: every time YOU look at your own 360 page, it counts as a "view"... when you type up a new blog post and hit enter, technically updating the page, it counts as a view... if you refresh the page, to simply be sure that your new entry looks and reads right, its another view. The result: you can add 3, 4, or 10 views a shot to your "views" count all while simply trying to add a single new entry. Translation: the "view" numbers ramp up very, very quickly which makes the overall tally pointless.

Of course, here's the more telling truth. If 290,000 "views" were truly reflective of your "fan" base, then why only 200 friends? People who actually want to be notified of any updates about you? Why is that yet again you love to brag about how many "fans" you have... about how "revered" you are... and yet you have only ONE PERSON posting a comment at your blog? Gee, you'd think that someone -- no, a actual super star! -- who had 290,000 fans would have more than ONE GUY wanting to say something to them. That alone speaks volumes about how "off" your 290,000 number is from reality.

Which ultimately brings us to the HUGE difference between us, Melissa. You're ridiculously trying to compare the number of people who checked out a FREE web page to the number of people who actually PAID for something. You're laughably trying to compare the number of people who read a ranting post of yours and thought "Who the hell is this person?", at which point they clicked on a link and checked out your profile, versus in my case they actually reached into their pocket and said "Hey, this looks so good that I'll actually spend some of my own hard-earned money to BUY it."

Sorry, they're not the same thing by a mile.
But nice try again, Ace.
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This is the last I'll say about it, I actually have to get ready for my implant surgery, see I have a life, a life that apparently 290,000 times was worth reading about. Case closed, go back to your pathetic snipes you look silly.
LMAO! I have to say I find it hysterical that this is the billionth time that you've declared you have "no time to talk about things", yet you keep coming back and posting away. And frankly, you're the one looking a bit silly now with all the sarcastic comments, name-calling, and pathetic snipes at fellow board members here. In fact, here's an observation that everyone can clearly see now...

Have you noticed, Melissa, that you CAN'T leave well enough alone? Have you noticed that you just HAVE to get the last word in, to always try and drown out any opposing thought? To make sure it's YOUR way or NO way at all? As proof of this, have you noticed that you often post a response to something and then...even after some time has passed and even after the comments have moved onward...that in a sure sign of a personality that just can't let go, you will actually go back and excerpt someone's post yet again, all so you can post yet again on the very same comment? In other words, you'll actually reply to something you already replied to!

You responded to my post about your fan base (in Post 142) and said: "And may I add my popularity is something I will not defend. When I state I have thousands of fans that is no exxageration." Really? Gee, so then what's up with this post? What happened to this being something "I will not defend." I thought you had nothing more to say on the matter. And yet -- what a shock! -- here you are again, this time trotting out Yahoo figures that took me all of 30 seconds to rip apart and show how meaningless they are.

So, I guess in the future whenever you declare "this is the last I'll say about it" what you REALLY mean is we can all look forward to another post where -- yet again -- you'll try to get the last word in.

Me, I can't wait.
Because I'm sure it'll be another rant that I can -- yet again -- debunk in 30 seconds flat.
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this thread has turned into a pissing contest, who gives a fuck how many people have read your shit. thats for both of you.
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Hey if we love each other who cares what kinda "job" she has. As long as she takes precautions to stay disease free does it matter that she wears knee pads to work? Just think of the all the guys she meets in a week. You could chronicle her career in a book or even several books and make a fortune. I would be more concerned with the following:

1. In later years you can both see the same urologist.
2. Damn! Honey, have you been using my rogaine?
3. Smoking! Seems like most of those "gals" haven't heard the word yet about
how bad smoking is.
4. Get 2-for-1 deals on wigs.
5. Help her pick out a draw string for her anus.
6. When you get up to pee at night she's already sitting there on the can!
Why? Because you are both genetically identical - XY!


Oh yeah! "Cool" and "Wow"
1. Words have gender - People have sex.
2. You need to look up the definition of Fascism.
3. Just because someone believes they are Napoleon doesn't make him (or her) Napoleon. Ronald Regan may have let the mentally ill out of the hospitals, but the judges are falsely providing the mentally ill with legal definitions where there are no scientific ones. People are sick of sick judges and have passed prop 8 in California.
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1. Words have gender - People have sex.
2. You need to look up the definition of Fascism.
3. Just because someone believes they are Napoleon doesn't make him (or her) Napoleon. Ronald Regan may have let the mentally ill out of the hospitals, but the judges are falsely providing the mentally ill with legal definitions where there are no scientific ones. People are sick of sick judges and have passed prop 8 in California.
I'm curious what your point being here is.. seriously..

1) words have gender..indeed they do - people have sex.. sure. People also have identity that includes gender. People also have biological sex that is not neatly classified (XXX and XXY for example)

2) I think Melissa's assessment of your post was pretty spot on

3) Ahh.. so my understanding of myself is a mental illness? Gay folks seeking legal recognition of their relationships is mental illness? Trolling Message Boards on the Internet is....???
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Hey if we love each other who cares what kinda "job" she has. As long as she takes precautions to stay disease free does it matter that she wears knee pads to work? Just think of the all the guys she meets in a week. You could chronicle her career in a book or even several books and make a fortune. I would be more concerned with the following:

1. In later years you can both see the same urologist.
2. Damn! Honey, have you been using my rogaine?
3. Smoking! Seems like most of those "gals" haven't heard the word yet about
how bad smoking is.
4. Get 2-for-1 deals on wigs.
5. Help her pick out a draw string for her anus.
6. When you get up to pee at night she's already sitting there on the can!
Why? Because you are both genetically identical - XY!


Oh yeah! "Cool" and "Wow"
1) Sure, I suppose... or I'll just stick to my own doctor, or get a gynocologist if I decide to have SRS
2) One of the lovely things about taking hormone therapy is, well, is stops male pattern baldness. You can keep the rogaine
3) Yeah, lots of folks smoke.
4) See #2
5) WTF?
6) People are not genetically identical. I also didn't know that having to take a pee in the middle of the night was exclusively a man-thing. My mom would be amazed.
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Wow, after reading through most of the comments in this thread I'm amazed to see people flaming other people for their opinion. I know I'm new to this forum and I have not read Melissa's story yet, but flaming someone for an opinion seems to be going to far.

If a person chooses to do a certain job - read this correctly, chooses - then that's a choice they make. But, the "sex industry" has a strange reputation either way you look at it. From what I saw so far on this forum though, and I came here for a reason, there's a bigger want for tgirls then there are tgirls around. So I think we should be glad there are girls out there who stomach the sometimes "far fetched" fantasies some men have out there.

On the other hand, if somebody is against doing escort work, the moral blah aside, it's their opinion. They may have the wrong arguments but be realistic, if you react strongly, it'll only provoke more blah and will not change their minds. (not withstanding that you're making the correct point of course )

To answer the original question: I have not been in the situation myself so I cannot say anything conclusively really. I trust though I'm open minded enough to accept it as a part of my partners life. Just as I hope that she will accept that I work 12 hours a day So the answer would be the option "it shouldn't"

Well, before this turns into a book I hope that the surgery went as you hoped Melissa and you're recovering from it well.

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Wow, after reading through most of the comments in this thread I'm amazed to see people flaming other people for their opinion. I know I'm new to this forum and I have not read Melissa's story yet, but flaming someone for an opinion seems to be going to far.

If a person chooses to do a certain job - read this correctly, chooses - then that's a choice they make. But, the "sex industry" has a strange reputation either way you look at it. From what I saw so far on this forum though, and I came here for a reason, there's a bigger want for tgirls then there are tgirls around. So I think we should be glad there are girls out there who stomach the sometimes "far fetched" fantasies some men have out there.

On the other hand, if somebody is against doing escort work, the moral blah aside, it's their opinion. They may have the wrong arguments but be realistic, if you react strongly, it'll only provoke more blah and will not change their minds. (not withstanding that you're making the correct point of course )

To answer the original question: I have not been in the situation myself so I cannot say anything conclusively really. I trust though I'm open minded enough to accept it as a part of my partners life. Just as I hope that she will accept that I work 12 hours a day So the answer would be the option "it shouldn't"

Well, before this turns into a book I hope that the surgery went as you hoped Melissa and you're recovering from it well.
Could'nt have put this any better.......exactly how I feel......As to the original question:.... you can meet, fall in love and have a successful, long-term and beautiful relationship with a TS escort! My partner was escorting when we met and now share a loving, close and very satisfying life together.
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How about it guys,

If you met a TS, fell head over heels for her, but then found out she is an escort/adult entertainer does it rule out the chances for a relationship?
After all the heated up discussions:

Simple answer to a simple question: YES!

And it doesn't matter whether she is a TS or a GG.

I'm not talking about "being together" or other sorts of loose relationships. If I am truly in love with someone I want everything related to love (and that incluces all sorts of sexual activities) to be exclusive between me and my loved one.

I would rather tend to work harder to compensate for the loss in income if my loved one gave up escorting because I would assume it to be "just a job to raise income".

If she would insist in continuing escorting I would suspect it could be more than a job.

Apart from that escorting is as much an acceptable job as any other.

At some points in the debate you sound a bit outraged but that may be attributed to the experiences you have made with "guys".

I can assure you that you have my FULL respect as a TS or escort or whatever because in the first place you are a human being and as such as valuable to me as any other human being as long as you don't prove to be an asshole.

And up to this point I have no evidence that you are.
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How about it guys,

If you met a TS, fell head over heels for her, but then found out she is an escort/adult entertainer does it rule out the chances for a relationship?
i love whorish sluts,and i don't give a if i have to pay for play ,at least i don't sit home fantasizing about romance and love,all i want to do is fuck and suck...........
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How about it guys,

If you met a TS, fell head over heels for her, but then found out she is an escort/adult entertainer does it rule out the chances for a relationship?
to get back to the original question,
for myself, if a ts is an escort/adult entertainer that does not automatically rule out romance. there are many levels and ways to romance someone, & i am certainly agreeable to a good number of those ways, if, of course, the girl & i find our space to groove.
however, i know myself well & if i felt the desire to take the relationship to a deeper level, or if it naturally was becoming something more intimate & personal, i could not live with my girl giving herself to others. thats just me. maybe thats selfish, but that is what is important to me. i also hold myself to the same standards though...i dont want to be with others when i have my girl by my side. to me, thats the best part of life, when i find a girl that is my best friend, lover, playmate, kink-explorer, buddy, trusted partner, teacher, student, etc, all rolled up into one great relationship. ive had a few longer-term situations in my time, & im hoping to one day find the one who will go the distance with me. for these reasons, it would hurt me too much, id get jealous, upset, & crazy if i felt this type of deeply for someone & they were lying down with someone else.

so, romance, no problem...deeper relationship, no way...& the past is the past, ill never hold that against her.

this is just my honest answer to a tough question, sorry if you dont agree, but its my answer.

ok-so now i see that the question asks if she told me after, or as i was getting head over heels for her. in this case, unfortunately, i still couldnt live with it. if i tried to put up with it, i just know id end up raising hell, so i couldnt stay. however, if she was head over heels for me too, then she would know this & she wouldnt want to put me through that anyway.

i feel that if its true love, that is whats most important (to me), & any occupation pales in comparison to true love.

again, just my honest answer,
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i've only been a member for a couple of days, and it was by accident from what i googled. but i've recently, while exploring the site, been discovering some interesting topics, like this one. not like i'm any kind of expert, but i think there's a fine line between escort and prostitute. i don't know the mechanics, but i know sex in exchange for money is involved in both. so i wonder if the pay is good enough before the sex (in the case of escorting, obviously) that it's easy enough to give up upon entering a meaningful relationship. it's kind of cliche to say that sacrifices need to be made in a relationship, compromises i understand. i think that most people who are in the escort business rarely fall for a client, though i could be wrong. maybe a similar situation would be porn stars falling for each other. there would be a concern for the average person in a relationship with a professional. trust can only go so far and it is different on a case by case basis. some people habitually lie. that being said, you can't really have a rule of thumb for every relationship. some people can be trusted while others can't. it may be contingent on the magnitude of the feelings each in the relationship have for one another. obviously each person will react differently to the news that their mate works in the profession, and some who are in the profession are more easily capable of compartmentalizing their feelings when doing their jobs. to accept it or not is actually only part of the question that should be asked, what is also a factor in this sort of situation is how genuine each person's feelings are for the other in the relationship, regardless of the genders involved. it can only be on a case by case basis. sorry if that raised more questions than it answered
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i realized that i didn't actually answer the question. i wouldn't be able to accept this part of my mate's life because i am a possessive person and feel that kind of attention should be reserved only for the person you love. some people are less jealous than me in a relationship, but since when i fall for someone, i dedicate all my heart to that person, i feel that if it's meant to be it will be a mutual deication. sorry if that disappoints anyone, but like i said, that's just me. it's different on a case by case basis
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how am I kidding? this is a totaly legitimate question from a TS escort.
I'm a TS Escort in her 60's and have no trouble attracting girlfriends. I'm upfront with them some dont like it, who cares
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