Does liking shemales make you gay?

[IronCity]

there are way to many "am i gay "questions here too.. you are what you are .... you like what you like.... why are you asking someone else to label you as gay bi straight ....if you need to have a label .....well label yourself..

[ila]

Originally Posted by IronCity

there are way to many "am i gay "questions here too.. you are what you are .... you like what you like.... why are you asking someone else to label you as gay bi straight ....if you need to have a label .....well label yourself..

Very well said.

[smc]

Originally Posted by IronCity

there are way to many "am i gay "questions here too.. you are what you are .... you like what you like.... why are you asking someone else to label you as gay bi straight ....if you need to have a label .....well label yourself..

I agree that that there are way too many questions of this sort on our board; I have posted about this several times in the past. Over time, though, I've come to find them less bothersome. They reflect the tremendous pressure society puts on people who are "different" from what is (wrongly) considered "normal." This forum provides a place for people who are attracted to tgirls not only to explore that attraction but also to engage with others who may have some insights into how to navigate the obstacles and prejudices society throws their name.

I believe that if by providing a place to do that this forum helps anyone, even a single person, to embrace himself or herself as he or she really is, we have made the world a better place. The price -- a lot of threads about labels, and even a lot chock full of rationalizations with which some of us may not agree -- is a small one to pay.

[IronCity]

I am not here to judge you.. your sexual preference is your own business and i will not like or dislike you for what you are sexually... if you question if you are bi /gay/straight ...i say sure feel free to ask but the only person that can truly answer that is you. you can get good advice here but you must explore your inner most thoughts and desires and if you must have a label it has to come from within.

[ldom26]

I don't know what is it about a woman with a dick but I know it drives me wild and the thought of sticking my cock in one drives me insane, just hope one day it will become a reality and not just a thought in my head !!!!Does that make me gay ........ I don't think so !!


Ladyboys all the way, I would never let a man put his cock but would gladly let a ladyboy stick her stiff cock deep inside me, infact I dream of the day this happens

[Hedonistman]

only you can know if you're gay or not... fuck labels,,,go w/what's in your head,, how YOU think and feel is all that matters...

[CCC]

Come on --give me hand here.

If you like girls only then you are straight
If you like guys only then you are gay
If a girl likes a girl then you are a lesbian
If a guy like girls and guys then he is Bi-
If you think that T-Gurls are girls with a cock (like I do) then you must still therefor be straight---right???

Of course if you like girls, guys and T-gurls you should always be getting lucky.

[smc]

Originally Posted by CCC

Come on --give me hand here.

If you like girls only then you are straight
If you like guys only then you are gay
If a girl likes a girl then you are a lesbian
If a guy like girls and guys then he is Bi-
If you think that T-Gurls are girls with a cock (like I do) then you must still therefor be straight---right???

Of course if you like girls, guys and T-gurls you should always be getting lucky.

This is clearly the definition of someone to whom it is important that you be identified as straight.

There are many, many threads and posts about this topic. The bottom line from those of us who are comfortable with our sexuality is this:

WHO CARES ABOUT THESE LABELS!!!

[IronCity]

Originally Posted by smc

WHO CARES ABOUT THESE LABELS!!!

EXactly!!!!!!! if you like girl penis ... are you gay??? I dunno .... i like girl penis... am i gay... i dont think i am .... i dont want a mans penis... but what if i am gay .. so what .....other people dont have to know what you like.... who you like... its not like you have to put bi/gay/straight on your drivers license or your library card. Deep down inside you know what you are.. so embrace it and live life....today could be your last day on this earth... stop labeling and start living!!!

[tiggerme]

well, the way i think of it is like this. i like soft female beings. i love tits in all shapes and sizes. and i love them being delicate. all these things i can get from a female or a shemale. the difference, some may say penis others a really large clitors. the bottom line, thinking a human being is beautiful and getting sexualy aroused is alright rather male or female.

[Alanz]

I read this thread with interest and tried an experiment. I watched my girlfriends gay porn dvd to see if it aroused me. it didn"t, in fact I felt a little embarrassed by it. Then I watched my copy of "spunk" a Ladyboy masturbation dvd, that got me really hot. I think that proves on the whole Ladyboy lovers are not Gay! They just love chicks with dicks!! Go on give it a try, you may just enjoy it! One day it may be too late.


Hey! We wouldn"t be using this forum if we were Gay! Would we?

[Lycanthropunk]

This is a fascinating topic, albeit an age-old one. My perspective seems to be a little different from most on here. I completely agree that we should transcend the confines of fitting into a rigid "label", but we will be labelled by others whether we like it or not. Our complex personalities will be simplified into bitesize chunks for ease of use during other people's perceptions of us.

Where my perspective differs is that I know I would be labelled "bisexual" and I'm happy with it. I like men AND women. With women I love the way they look and dress- generally they are MUCH more attractive than guys. But with men i love their cocks, their hairiness. But it's not always the differences between men and women which satisfy my bisexuality- sometimes it's the similar traits. Whilst I love curvy full figured women I tend to prefer women with flat chests to big breasts. I also love muscular legs and hairiness on girls. And whilst I love hairiness on guys, the muscle I find attractive on a girl I find repulsive on a guy. I think for me I love androgeny- the blurring of the line between genders.

T-girls, for me, are the perfect celebration of bisexuality. They represent the best of both worlds. The beauty of a woman matched with the very best bit of a man. Normally I would have to satisfy my bisexuality separately, either with a man or a woman, but a t-girl is everything I could wish for, all in one amazing package! I agree that t-girl admirers vary with their "straightness", and that can be seen in their preferences. Being happily bi I tend to prefer flatchested donkey-dick'd femboys to their bigger breasted sisters, but that's just me.

Bottom line is that how we are labelled sexually doesn't matter, and if we HAVE to labelled, then "t-girl admirers" should be a label itself!

[GRH]

This topic always makes me laugh my ass off. Never do you see such a bravado attempt by men to try to rationalize why they like cock. They will try to paint it up like...It's only cock on a pretty feminine form that I like. Or...I don't like cock on gay men. But the fact of the matter is...Men like cock. That is as gay as it comes. And if for some reason you think you're exempt from this logic...Please, just TRY liking a girl like me for a little while. I guarantee you WILL BE CALLED GAY. So you might as well get over labels or get used to being considered gay, because all of you "t-girl lovers" are a bit gay in my opinion.

[smc]

It is a remarkable feeling of liberation from the ways in which society seeks to mold us within unreasonable boundaries of so-called "normalcy" to be able to say "I love cock" and not care what anyone else thinks.

I just told someone earlier this week, after knowing him for 30 years! Once I added "not yours," he was fine.

[GRH]

SMC, I think it's GREAT that you can admit that to yourself and to another human being. Especially without the normal disclaimers of "as long as it's attached to feminine form."

Because let's face it, most people are NOT interested in a person's "disclaimers." If you like cock, and you're a male, you're gay. It doesn't matter what it's attached to...At least to most people. And I assume that's what most people are REALLY worried about in this thread...And that is, what do MOST people think. And the fact of the matter is, to MOST people, liking ladyboys/shemales makes a person probably gay. Either get used to the label or get over it, that's my motto.

If anyone cares to they can read my other posts on this topic. There seems to be a very diverse range of responses and yes, it does seem like at times, some here are seeking to “rationalize” their desires. I can only speak for myself on this issue but I have never been attracted to men and have only had sex with cis women. I find many transsexual models very attractive and have no problem imagining myself in a relationship with a transwomen someday. I don’t want to disappoint some of you but I really am attracted to the “whole person” and not simply “the cock.” That said, I also find nothing wrong with “being gay” and if that is what it makes me--so be it. Although I don’t believe most gay men would be attracted to someone like Kelly Shore or Camilla Saenz or Victoria Holyns for example. As for the external sex organs involved… I do believe that it is all (for me at least) “in context.” When I see gay porn, I can’t imagine myself fucking or sucking any of the guys in the scene. I can appreciate a handsome or well built man but they just don’t “do it” for me. Sorry! I have seen pictures of Camilla “post op” and she is equally beautiful and sexy with a penis or vagina. It is the “absolutely totally drop-dead gorgeous tall long legged blonde goddess” that I am attracted to. And don’t even get me started on Kelly!

Anyway, this topic is obviously important for many and I myself have wondered the same thing as many of you. Personally, you shouldn’t worry if you are “gay” or “straight” or “bi” or whatever. Someone else here said that by society’s logic we would all be considered “gay.” Well I believe that that “logic” to be faulty--the issues involved are way too complex. But I understand it. I have developed my own plan for “coming out” if you will and have gradually begun to make progress. Since attending our local “Day of Remembrance” last November, I have made friends with several transwomen (and transmen) in our community. I shared my interest with two very good friends over the holidays and my colleagues (I’m a university professor) know I have supported gay rights for many years.

That’s my story. Again. To sum it up, I believe each one of us is unique and that’s why labeling is silly.

Dr. A

[cyba]

all of you "t-girl lovers" are a bit gay in my opinion.

And how about you. GRH. I see you're a 'senior LB lover.'
There's still the distinction, at least for me, between those
males who genuinely would never have a sexual relationship
with a male and, especially, have no preference for that..
and are not inclined to touch guy's cocks, and who generally
prefer females, but, would play with an LB.
Me.
That 'little bit of dick' is a puzzle.
I take it, for you, the gold standard is guys, perhaps the vast
majority, who'd never touch a cock, period.
We can say they're 'straight'/hetero.
Everything else (all other situations involving cock) is/are 'gay'?

Someone gave me "rep" for my "Taracuda" posting of Tara Emory. Thanks!

I think the pic of her below is one of the sexiest photos I've ever seen--EVER!

Does being aroused by Tara make me "gay"? I mean, she's got a "cock"! OMG!!! You know, I could care less whether it "makes me gay" or not. But there is an important fact here that many of you who are wondering "if you are gay" are leaving out--transwomen are women.

We are not talking about male "crossdressers" or "drag queens." Although that's OK too. The women I am attracted to are women--period. To see them any other way would be an insult. That applies equally to Kelly Shore as it does to my new friends from the Day of Remembrance or any transwomen on this forum.

Something I wanted to add to my earlier post--I am probably "older" than most of you (late 30's) and discovered this "interest" much later in life. I was already comfortable with my sexuality and had been married for a long time. Even so, I went through the same questioning that many of you posting here are going through. One thing I have learned is that there are many "variations" on what each of us likes. My wish for you is that you will learn to accept who you are. Asking questions is part of learning. I also hope we can all accept each other as we are without "labels"--as I like to say "It's all good!"

Dr. A

[jimudon]

Originally Posted by GRH

SMC, I think it's GREAT that you can admit that to yourself and to another human being. Especially without the normal disclaimers of "as long as it's attached to feminine form."

Because let's face it, most people are NOT interested in a person's "disclaimers." If you like cock, and you're a male, you're gay. It doesn't matter what it's attached to...At least to most people. And I assume that's what most people are REALLY worried about in this thread...And that is, what do MOST people think. And the fact of the matter is, to MOST people, liking ladyboys/shemales makes a person probably gay. Either get used to the label or get over it, that's my motto.

I agree, it took a while but I agree. I only want to be with lady-cock, or fem-boys. Just finally said, I don't have any desire for ggs. I want be on the other team. Granted I prefer fem-boy, cross-dressing side. But I am in it for the cock. I

[smc]

Originally Posted by aw9725

Someone gave me "rep" for my "Taracuda" posting of Tara Emory. Thanks!

I think the pic of her below is one of the sexiest photos I've ever seen--EVER!

I have nothing to add beyond my earlier post on the specific topic of this thread, at least at the moment. But I do want to take this opportunity to endorse what Dr. A writes about the Tara Emory photo. The entire set from which that photo comes may be the sexiest ever.

[Kylieam1]

I myself am a gay male but i also love and have been with several shemales

[DEFENDER]

Whats in a name?.......and does it really matter? If some law was passed that decreed that all "shemale lovers/admirers etc" are now to be classed as being "gay" would you suddenly change? Life's too short to worry about titles and being placed in catagories. Accept who you are and if others can't deal with that, just move on,....and most of all,...enjoy living life to the last second. I have the loveliest TS girlfriend and I bless that day that we met and if that makes me gay, I honestly could'nt give a damn!

[chickswdicks]

I am no doubt straight. Although some times when im horny i crave cock from anybody.

[GRH]

A "straight" male that sometimes "craves cock." LMFAO!

[chickswdicks]

Originally Posted by GRH

A "straight" male that sometimes "craves cock." LMFAO!

Alright im no doubt bi

Originally Posted by GRH

A "straight" male that sometimes "craves cock." LMFAO!

Isn't that a bit like being a vegetarian who eats meat now and again?

[chickswdicks]

Originally Posted by Natalie_J

Isn't that a bit like being a vegetarian who eats meat now and again?

Eats and gets fucked by ''lady meat'' now and again.

Originally Posted by chickswdicks

Eats and gets fucked by ''lady meat'' now and again.

I've met a few 'straight' guys in the last few years who, it turned out, had quite a liking for 'lady meat'

[chickswdicks]

Originally Posted by Natalie_J

I've met a few 'straight' guys in the last few years who, it turned out, had quite a liking for 'lady meat'

Does anyone NOT like lady meat??

[GRH]

The vegetarian analogy is actually a very apt one. A lot of the "straight" guys seem to ignore the fact that they have a hankering for cock now and again. It reminds me very much of a self-proclaimed vegetarian who "sometimes eats chicken and fish." That is an issue close to my heart to, as I am in fact a full-fledged vegetarian and never eat meat (though I do eat eggs and cheese...different story there).

[chickswdicks]

I think that's a good analogy too. For the most part I like eating and fucking pussy. But every now and then I sucking and fucking cock. I'd say i'm 75% straight and 25% gay.


The fact is gay men are attracted to other things about men not just his cock. And although i like some slightly masculine shemales, im really just attracted to WOMEN with dicks.

[CdJodi]

I Have Always Used To Be Ashamed About Being Bisexual But Now I'm Happy With My Sexuality And Am Happy To Tell People I Like Men, Women And Tgirls Etc... For Me Its About The Person Not What Gender They Are ... If I Like Them As A Person Then I Will Most Likely Go For Them

Originally Posted by jimudon

I agree, it took a while but I agree. I only want to be with lady-cock, or fem-boys. Just finally said, I don't have any desire for ggs. I want be on the other team. Granted I prefer fem-boy, cross-dressing side. But I am in it for the cock. I

I never had any desire for natal females; it's always been about cock for me. On both men and ladyboys.

BUT as soon as pretty femmeboy tells me she's total TS and wants to have a poon, identifies 100% as a woman, the whole nine yards, I just can't get into her anymore. Can't really explain why, I just don't want to be with a person who's "all woman". If she lived full-time but both loved her cock and considered herself even 10% "male" (as much as personality can be sexed, anyway), then I'm good. Maybe it's weird, but I figure we're into what we're into.

[vampi]

I've read in some sexologist website (from Spain) a story from a man who was a shemale fan, that slept with a real men. He said could enjoy the anal sex only and felt great repulsion when he kissed and huged with him. So I think many men who like cocks, don't like men and they have the sensation of having sex with a woman when they're with shemale (they have soft skin, tits, or maybe the smell). Just in this case she has a cock to penetrate or be sucked isn't?

Maybe you know this site about real girls with plastic prosthesis of penis (huge) and cuming a lot of false semen (and when I mean a lot, it's really a lot)
I don't know if I can say the name of the site entire

at first I thought it was bullshit because I like watching porn with girls (between girl and boy or between girls) and I like shemale porn (maybe most between shemales or between shemale and man)
I said to me, it was stupid to watch action with false penis
and in fact it's not so bad

maybe because girls are pretty and act like non professionnal, just as they find this fun
and they do a lot of rubbing, snoodling, sword fight in these videos
but because 2 fakes plastic cocks, the sword fight isn't exciting ?
in fact, I find it really really exciting
I know they are both girls and we can see her pussies (nice little pussies by the way), watching just the enormous cock doesn't excite me
but when these 2 massive cock touch each other and the girls smile (acting as if they had pleasure), god I've a hard on !

(I precise that I've never been excited watching manga with shemales or hermaphrodites)

curious

to be closer to the discussion I would say
that I love girls, and I'm attracted to shemales

I'm probably curious about bisexuality (I have a big fantasay about "cock to cock"), but even if I find some men nice, in life I'm not attracted to them

I have feelings for girls, can be in love for girls
(can I be in love with a tgirl ? I don't really know, maybe because I consider them more like girls than boys)

would I prefer a transsexual operated or no operated ?
for my fantasy, it has no doubt, I would prefer with her cock

for a relationship with love, in real world ?
even if I lost the pleasure of sex with her cock, I think for my partner happiness, it's better that she has been operated to complete the transformation she always desired

[beginner]

I agree with You. I also have a lovely TS girlfriend and I don't mind what others think. But I somewhat also agree with Franalexes; only that what attracts me in she-males is the SHE with the COCK. And that's the mixture of both that I like. I don't think I'm gay, but if anybody thinks so it just does'nt matter.
Beginner

Originally Posted by DEFENDER

Whats in a name?.......and does it really matter? If some law was passed that decreed that all "shemale lovers/admirers etc" are now to be classed as being "gay" would you suddenly change? Life's too short to worry about titles and being placed in catagories. Accept who you are and if others can't deal with that, just move on,....and most of all,...enjoy living life to the last second. I have the loveliest TS girlfriend and I bless that day that we met and if that makes me gay, I honestly could'nt give a damn!

[smc]

Originally Posted by Pentothal

Maybe you know this site about real girls with plastic prosthesis of penis (huge) and cuming a lot of false semen (and when I mean a lot, it's really a lot)
I don't know if I can say the name of the site entire

It is absolutely permissible to mention the name of the site. I assume you are referring to futanaria.com

Thanks for sharing your views of your own attractions. It is posts of this sort that really add to the great discussions that we often have here on the Forum.

Originally Posted by Pentothal

would I prefer a transsexual operated or no operated ?
for my fantasy, it has no doubt, I would prefer with her cock

for a relationship with love, in real world ?
even if I lost the pleasure of sex with her cock, I think for my partner happiness, it's better that she has been operated to complete the transformation she always desired

Your perspective is both respectful and loving ... a very nice combination. I agree with you wholeheartedly.

[f5100]

Originally Posted by GRH

If ever there were a bunch of rationalizations for why a man liking cock is not gay, this thread is surely it.

Exactly.. I am new here so maybe should tread very carefully but have wondered this often myself recently.

Sure can say labels don't matter and don't want to get fucked in the ass (who does?), but in the end its finding a penis attractive.. IMO there is a gay element to that regardless.

You have probably read my other postings so you know it doesn’t matter to me if you consider yourself gay or straight. But speaking totally for myself, I am attracted to beautiful women. I was married to a beautiful woman and have always dated attractive women. Not men. Never have, and at 39, probably never will. Just to add something to this discussion I thought I’d post a few pics for you to consider. What has intrigued me is how this discussion keeps coming (no pun intended) back to “the cock” rather than the entire person.

The first two are Foxy Angel (one of my all-time favorites) and Mallory from “Mallory’s Feet” (to me a relative newcomer--and one of the cutest and sexiest girls I’ve ever seen). You can’t “see anything” in either picture--both are very beautiful and extremely feminine--most “straight” men would likely be attracted to either one of them. Don’t you think? I know I am!

Now consider the other two pictures. The first is Bev Francis, a champion bodybuilder. She is also the first woman to officially bench press over 300 lbs. When I was a teenager I followed her like I did “Arnold” and others. Anyway, I remember before I could do “300” myself, thinking “How can a girl do this”?

The last picture is of course Buck Angel, a well known transman and model. He also obviously works out and has a nice physique. I have read several interviews with him and he seems pretty cool.

Both Bev and Buck have vaginas yet I can say with certainty that I am not sexually attracted to either one--although I like and admire both of them. My question for those who keep insisting that we are all closeted gays is: Why is someone "gay" for liking cute, blond, Mallory (or Kelly Shore for instance)? Is it because she has a “cock”? Then is someone who likes muscular, shaven head, Buck, considered “straight” only because he has a “pussy”? Doesn’t make sense…

My own answer is that human sexuality is much too complex to be categorized and actually tends to fall on a continuum. Perhaps we are predominately gay or straight, but in reality, a little of both. Kinsey, I believe first proposed this idea. The following is taken from the American Psychological Association:

“Sexual orientation is an enduring emotional, romantic, sexual, or affectional attraction toward others. It is easily distinguished from other components of sexuality including biological sex, gender identity (the psychological sense of being male or female), and the social gender role (adherence to cultural norms for feminine and masculine behavior). Sexual orientation exists along a continuum that ranges from exclusive heterosexuality to exclusive homosexuality and includes various forms of bisexuality.”

I think that applies to most of us. LOL! And I think that most importantly we should learn to accept and celebrate who we are. As I’ve said in other posts, “It’s all good”!

Dr. A

[cyba]

What has intrigued me is how this discussion keeps coming (no pun intended) back to ?the cock? rather than the entire person.

Of course. That's what LBs have (and fems don't.) Otherwise, why would
you bother with an LB?
add
Which isn't to say that they don't have, in addition, attractive 'femininity.'

[FMB]

http://overanalysis.wordpress.com/tag/house-md/

Enjoy.

[valentinetabitha]

Anything that cites Wikipedia as a legitimate source is instantly a joke.

[FMB]

Originally Posted by valentinetabitha

Anything that cites Wikipedia as a legitimate source is instantly a joke.

Far too simplistic way of looking at things. I've used Wikipedia writing essays but cross referenced the facts using other sources. If you just use wikipedia then yeah fair enough. Just because there is some garbage on there it doesn't mean it all is.

[SOMEONE NEW]

Originally Posted by guest

or better yet, are WE gay?

ok so for about a year now i've been extremely turned on by shemales (obviously or i wouldn't be here right now)... but i'm also very attracted to women. i really like the thought of a hard cock and large balls on a very feminine type of girl, it really turns me on. but i am confused because i see these shemales as girls, even though they have dicks. i am also very opposed to the idea of a dick in my ass, i really think it's sick and would never do it, but i would love to stick mine in a shemale. the thought of calling myself "bisexual" or gay annoys me because i don't like men at all. i don't have fantasies about wearing wemon's clothing or anything like that.. the only doubt about myself i have is my love for a women with a long hard cock. i can't talk about this to anyone personally becuase they will think i'm gay, and everyone close to me is opposed to gay things.. especially my friends, because i'm still in high school, and let's just say i'm probably younger than everyone here.

so i was wondering if anyone has similar feelings, or can give me some advice?

I love beautiful shemales too and I have a girlfriend who by way doesn't mind me looking at shemales. I too have a lot of questions!

[connie]

I agree with an earlier statement, most gay men I know are not attracted to anything female, there attraction lies in the male image. I love females, the female form, and I have to be honest, I love cock. I love sucking it, I love have it in me, but I am not really attracted to the stereotypical male image. It is the female form that really turns me on, males that look feminine, are always more attractive to me, then manly men. I have had sex with men, because they have cocks, but it is always the lure of the penis that pulls me in, not the men themselves. So am I a gay? Perhaps but only in a lesbian way, I would think. Who knows.

[ImAlittleCurious]

I don't consider myself gay at all. I can't stand the thought of seeing a male naked. Though, seeing the most "regular" woman with a penis. (Sorry, if I made anyone upset with that statement). But, I hope you get me?

It's a big turn on. Is it because I am attracted to both sexes? Or is it the thought of having both organs on a person? Anyway. It's a turn on!

I mean. At times seeing my girlfriend with the strap on. It's the hottest thing ever! I sometimes even get hard without her touching me. It's cute to see her not know what to do at times... "Tell me how do I put this penis in you.." Or she gets tired so quickly..! ha ha


I feel weird at times. Guilty for that matter. The only one who kinda knows I'm into T-Girls is the current lady.

[DocFeelGood]

When I was younger yes I felt guity about it but now that I older and more mature I found out there is nothing to fell guity about it, and finally I came into terms about it. Yes I like T-Girls a lot more than I like G-girls, and there is nothing wrong with it!

[tiggerme]

i dont think i feel guilty as much as confused. i haven't been with a t-women before, but when i see the pics or videos i really want to. they seem to really desire the ones there with, of course there are some who seem in pain because of the very large penis in their backside, but when there being hugged and kissed they look like they enjoy it( their large clits gets large and hard). women on the other hand, you can never tell. they can yell and scream but some times its just false. so why are they faking, what are they doing it for, they're not really enjoying themselves are they? so for me i find t-women more honest with what they want.

[RobbyPants]

Guilty? No, although it's not something I broadcast. The only other person who knows I do is my wife. Even then, I don't really talk to her about it.

[crsd1970]

First of all, I think that whether 'it makes you gay' or not is not important. Having said that, IMO a guy and a TS are a man and a woman, simple as that. So I don't see how that would be a gay relationship. Look at the pictures below of girls and their men making love: does that look like gay sex to you?