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Having a relationship with an escort ? yes

There?s another myth I would like to puncture ? namely the one that once an escort, always an escort ? aka ?you can take the girl out of the bar, but you cannot take the bar out of the girl?.

This is a myth that flourishes on many fora ? and it is untrue ? clear and simple. Also (and maybe especially) when it comes to trans-escorts. Btw, why would I necessarily WANT to take the bar out of her?

It is most likely a myth by men who would have trouble finding a woman (of whatever gender) anyway, is my thesis. Thus, they naturally turn to being bitter and nasty. Anyways... never mind them...

Admittedly, I?m not a guy who has roamed the bordellos for sex ? none the less, I probably know more (about) escorts than most ? I have most likely more escorts as my deepest friends than most ? and I have presumably had more very deep and honest love-relations with escorts than most. Not as a client but as a man.

Why? Perhaps because I consider escorting and being a hooker a highly respectful job ? especially if the girl likes it, of course. That would go for any job.

If we take love out of the equation just for now: my absolutely best friend who is currently overseeing my company and my entire stay in this part of the world is, indeed, an escort. A ladyboy escort. Successful and gorgeous ? and never did I receive greater loyalty and friendship. It goes back since I came here. She?s the only one I fully trust. In Asia you quickly learn to mind your money ? my trans-friends and among them escorts have been the most trustworthy and loyal.

The old punters (a ?punter? is a person who uses the services of a prostitute) would now say: yes, you?ve just been lucky and besides, Hank, you?re an asshole, a bleeding heart liberal and we dislike you... Well, the bule/farang punters for sure mostly dislike me, because I dare challenge their socalled ?wisdom? (and basically, they consider me an idiot who has not understood even the tiniest bit of anything) ? which is based on an economy-trip to the tropics (or maybe 20 economy-trips once they get smitten), so I cannot take that too seriously ? I cannot deny it either that I?m most certainly an arrogant prick with an attitude. And I normally don?t find the ?punter-wisdom? particularly wise ? not because they are punters, but because they often make their own limited experiences into ?gospel? ? the same way muslim radicals do, actually ? and don?t u dare challenge their limited little sphere of ?knowledge?...

But the fact remains, again by my empirics, that escorts are, indeed, most often sweeter, kinder and tons much deeper than their non-escort sisters.

Have I been lucky? You bet. And am I using my experiences as my statistical foundation ? right again.

Shoot at me now!

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I've been visiting brothels for over 10 years now

I also had sex with a large number of escorts all of which where quite fine.

Having a relationship with an escort? That's a no...

No need to elaborate,just don't do it!

Sure you can get lucky but there's a big chance you won't!

(The best sex I had so far was with an escort by the way)
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Having a relationship with an escort? That's a no...
No need to elaborate,just don't do it!
Very wise words.
Most Escorts have long term partners who would get really pissed off
with any punter trying to form a non-commercial relationship
with their other half.
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Very wise words.
Most Escorts have long term partners who would get really pissed off
with any punter trying to form a non-commercial relationship
with their other half.
I KNOW most escorts already have partners.I never said otherwise.

And I know how much escorts like stupid clients who try to form relationships with them (easier to take more money from these poor guys)

That's exactly why I said it's NOT a good idea for a client to try to form a relationship with an escort.

Simple as that.
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These replies and words to their effect are EXACTLY what was expected - guys with a whore-house religion that to them is gospel. It's amazing!

Let's hear some more wisdom...

And I really appreciate your responses, gentlemen, I really do... :-) Please continue!

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These replies and words to their effect are EXACTLY what was expected - guys with a whore-house religion that to them is gospel. It's amazing!

Let's hear some more wisdom...

And I really appreciate your responses, gentlemen, I really do... :-) Please continue!

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Clearly you're missing the point
Ok sweetheart - I'm happy you can teach me then :-)

I asked for content here, not LB-69 rigmaroles...

Come on, lighten up - and I promise, that I rarely miss the point :-)

But ok ok - this is an open discussion and I do appreciate your taking part in it.

I'll make it a special point not to miss it further on :-)

(don't take me too seriously - I just tend to have that internal auto-reaction to lb-69 ppl - I really do appreciate your taking part in this meak debate - I totally disagree with you, and I'm certain you have no idea what you're talking about, but that is beside the point)
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Listen buddy,everybody has an opinion and that's fine with me.

If you believe escorts are the finest people and all punters as you call them are just people who can't fuck someone without paying them then again it's your opinion-not a general fact/truth.

I really like this thread but don't start making general comments because it's just not correct.You say you have escort friends and that could be true but still it doesn't mean all escorts are ''nice'' people as your post suggests.

Also,I am a punter as you say but I never follow anything like a gospel or think all non-punters are idiots who just don't know what's happening in real life.

I have a 10+ experience with escorts,brothels,street prostitutes,shemale prostitutes,massage parlorls,strip clubs-you name it-so don't make comments about me like you know me

Most importantly,don't generalize.
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10+ means 10+ years by the way...my bad.
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For starters, I wouldn't want to be seriously involved with someone who was either seeing other guys or getting paid for sex with other guys in the first place.

I guess the real question would be if a ladyboy who used to escort could still be good relationship material in some type of monogamous sense. In North America, I have learned from experience to avoid even strippers, let alone prostitutes. Whether the dynamic might be a little different in other places and with trans women is worth discussing.
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For starters, I wouldn't want to be seriously involved with someone who was either seeing other guys or getting paid for sex with other guys in the first place.

I guess the real question would be if a ladyboy who used to escort could still be good relationship material in some type of monogamous sense. In North America, I have learned from experience to avoid even strippers, let alone prostitutes. Whether the dynamic might be a little different in other places and with trans women is worth discussing.
And this is where I empirically disagree - by my experience escorts are absolutely just as deep and in need of a relationship than anyone else. And as I said initially, I do speak from personal experience.

I don't think too many others here actually ever gave a hooker a chance - but I did and was not disappointed. Am not disappointed.

So I guess my point is: do not fear or mystify them - they are just girls - however most often with a story to tell... so respect her story and respect her. Give her a chance.

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One of my best friends is a stripper. She has a real life, a young daughter, loves and losses, joy and hardship ... all regular stuff. We are very close, despite the circumstances under which we first met. So, yes, Hank is correct ...
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Many of our Transexual Escorts have boyfriends and for some it works and some it does not. I think that you have to accept that persons lifestyle and not try to change them
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I KNOW most escorts already have partners.I never said otherwise.
And I know how much escorts like stupid clients who try to form relationships with them
(easier to take more money from these poor guys)

That's exactly why I said it's NOT a good idea for a client to try to form a relationship with an escort.
Simple as that.
No, most 'sussed' Escorts, {Both Trans & Bio}
will avoid these types of clients like the plague.
They are needy, demanding and feel their payment of fee/repeated fees
gives them some special rights beyond:
Booking, paying, letting us do our stuff without hassle, then quietly leaving at the session end.
Anything else is drama
and in with me results in a permanent visit to my BLOCKED LIST.
where future calls are met with an Auto-response text message:

AUTOMATIC RESPONSE
I will not meet you, EVER.
You are PERMANENTLY blocked.


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Many professionals I know told me these clients are the most annoying but at the same time the most profitable ones.

It makes sense because they think the girl actually likes them so they start paying more.

I've seen it happen with a friend of mine,I've seen it happen with many other guys so I have no reason to believe otherwise.

I never said all pros act like that.I didn't say they don't already have boyfriends either.Just to set the record straight.

What I did say is that it's better to avoid trying to form a relationship with a pro because there's a big chance she's just playing you.

Meeting a pro outside the professional context is a different thing.

I met more than one girls (not as a client) and we did have a good time but if we're talking pro then no,I never try to do more than just have a 1-2hour sex session.

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Many professionals I know told me these clients are the most annoying but at the same time the most profitable ones.
It makes sense because they think the girl actually likes them so they start paying more.
I've seen it happen with a friend of mine,I've seen it happen with many other guys so I have no reason to believe otherwise.
I never said all pros act like that.
Well bully for you. Well done.
You've chatted to a few Escorts and have a friend who also visits prozies.
This gives you 1% of an insight into Escorting,
as experienced by the, you know, the actual Prozzies.

For clarity, I've a number of close friends who Escort.
I'm also involved in an Escort-only support group.
The general consensus (99%) is the clingy clients
are the ones who are the hardest work
and who are best refused further appointments.

Till you earn a living sucking willies for Coin,
the truth is that you don't know what you are talking about.


Remember, the shit we say to you in a booking
is just client-chat.
And rarely bears any resemblance to reality.
You paid for sex. ie. you bought a short-term fantasy.
Which is all well and fine.
But don't let this warp reality.

Or you can. I really don't care.
You're most likely in the USA
so the chances of me getting coin from you are about zero.
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Mistake no1:I live in Europe.

Mistake no2:I know more than just a couple of tgirl escorts.A lot more actually.

Mistake no3:I never play it expert.I just happen to be involved in the escort-brothel-stripclub-massage parlor-street prostitutes thing for more than 10 years.

Mistake no4:Reality as you called it is that you're getting paid to have sex.Nothing more.

Nobody (aside from stupid clients) is interested in your personality as long as you fuck them in the ass and make their fantasy alive.

That's client-wise.What you do in your personal life is a whole different topic and only you now what's happening there.
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Mistake no1:I live in Europe.
Mainland Europe, I hope.
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Mistake no2:I know more than just a couple of tgirl escorts.A lot more actually.
Knowing a few Trans escorts does not give you in-depth knowledge
of the specifics of Escorting, from the Escort's perspective.
Do you know any world-class heart surgeons?
If so does this give you the knowledge of how to perform open heart surgery?
Answer----No
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Mistake no3:I never play it expert.I just happen to be involved in the escort-brothel-stripclub-massage parlor-street prostitutes thing for more than 10 years.
That makes you a regular punter, who is confusing their ill-informed opinion with facts. ....From, you know, an actual Escort.
{You do realise that regular commuting on aircraft DOES NOT QUALIFY YOU to land 747's. }

If you are not an Escort, you cannot have an accurate view on any aspect of Escorting.
Your 'knowledge' is based solely on 3rd party comment.
This is not the same as doing the job yourself.
You are a punter, an outsider to the realities of earning Coin for sexual services.
Your opinion does not reflect the views of the majority of Escorts
who have commented about 'Needy' clients.
Tell you what. Why don't you write about punting, from a punters point of view.
You'd be on solid ground on that. And I'd acknowledge it accordingly.
I've corrected you. Be gracious and say "Thank you."
After all, this is the only time you ever interacted with an Escort without the clock running.
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Mistake no4:Reality as you called it is that you're getting paid to have sex.Nothing more.
In general terms, yes.
Er, no disagreement there, so I've no idea why you mentioned it.
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Nobody (aside from stupid clients) is interested in your personality as long as you fuck them in the ass and make their fantasy alive.
Wrong again. on both counts:
1. I think the personality plays a huge roll in said Escort getting repeat bookings, or not.
So on a commercial basis personality plays a huge roll in successful Escorting.
2. I'm passive.

In whatever country you live in,
does the term "Tosser" mean anything?

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Mainland Europe, I hope.

Knowing a few Trans escorts does not give you in-depth knowledge
of the specifics of Escorting, from the Escort's perspective.
Do you know any world-class heart surgeons?
If so does this give you the knowledge of how to perform open heart surgery?
Answer----No

That makes you a regular punter, who is confusing their ill-informed opinion with facts. ....From, you know, an actual Escort.
{You do realise that regular commuting on aircraft DOES NOT QUALIFY YOU to land 747's. }

If you are not an Escort, you cannot have an accurate view on any aspect of Escorting.
Your 'knowledge' is based solely on 3rd party comment.
This is not the same as doing the job yourself.
You are a punter, an outsider to the realities of earning Coin for sexual services.
Your opinion does not reflect the views of the majority of Escorts
who have commented about 'Needy' clients.
Tell you what. Why don't you write about punting, from a punters point of view.
You'd be on solid ground on that. And I'd acknowledge it accordingly.
I've corrected you. Be gracious and say "Thank you."
After all, this is the only time you ever interacted with an Escort without the clock running.

In general terms, yes.
Er, no disagreement there, so I've no idea why you mentioned it.

Wrong again. on both counts:
1. I think the personality plays a huge roll in said Escort getting repeat bookings, or not.
So on a commercial basis personality plays a huge roll in successful Escorting.
2. I'm passive.

In whatever country you live in,
does the term "Tosser" mean anything?
1.Yes,mainland Europe.Southern Europe actually.

2.I said I know many tgirls.Not 5-6.Many.Enough with that.

3.Be sure that I spend time with you girls with no clocks running.For the last 5-6 years that is

4.The only reason your bookings keep coming is because clients like a beautiful,big dicked girl.

Of course if you're a bitch nobody will book you again.If that's what you mean then I agree

5.Wanker? Seriously? You English people are supposed to be humorous...Or aren't you English?
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I'm Brazilian or Eastern European. (I forget which )
.................Ain't no British Ts Escorts left round these parts.

I picked up the accent in my posts from listening to the BBC world service, don't you know old chap. Spiffing, what. Rule Britannia and all that.
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I'm Brazilian or Eastern European. (I forget which )
.................Ain't no British Ts Escorts left round these parts.

I picked up the accent in my posts from listening to the BBC world service, don't you know old chap. Spiffing, what. Rule Britannia and all that.
(Though off-forum my accent is closer to Ali G, innit. )
You can be a Brazilian of Eastern European origin
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The moral of this story seems to be that everyone has an opinion based on their perspective and world view. However, it's important to realize it's just your perspective and world view, not everyone's. Are there common traits like a recognizable pattern? Sure, but there are escorts worth dating and client's not worth the effort of their dollar. The world takes all kinds.

Speaking as a patron of the evening ladies (Cuz that's the only time of day I can see them) I'm a big fan of realizing what I'm paying for and nothing more, but also that I take people on a case by case basis. I don't value them less because they get paid for sex. Hell, do you value your doctor less because you pay them for medical services? Yet I have doctors and escorts as friends and some who stay nothing more than service providers. Your job doesn't define your emotional range.

And as for needy client's... As a different type of service provider, if I never have a needy client again, that would be too soon. They've ruined more than one holiday because they felt their needs were more important than mine. But then i'm sure some of my competitors love needy clients. The world takes all kinds.
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