Why do You Think Men Become Women?

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by JodieTs

My little joke of the day:
What's the difference between a crossdresser and a TS?
ans: About two and a half years!

Not true, but funny, and even funnier when I tell that joke
and see the resultant worried looks on crossdressers faces!

Bad Jodie!!!

Hilarious. You get a cookie Jodie.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by aw9725

Now I?m waiting for this ?troll? to return to 1) Angrily accuse everyone of misunderstanding him. 2) Call smc a ?dictator? (or worse? ). 3) Remind everyone that this is really a ?porn? forum. 4) And then call Enoch Root and myself ?lapdogs? (or worse?) for supporting smc.

oh and #5) He was just stating his opinion...

Careful aw9725, some people *cough* might think you are excusing away your well established lapdog...ism. And mine as well. Keep it quiet. Clearly whenever we agree with someone, especially when that someone is smc (who sometimes goes unnamed), we are kowtowing to him. It can't possibly be something reasonable was said and we are agreeing. So shhh. The plan to institute digital apartheid--whatever the fuck that might be--has to go off without a hitch.

Now I need to subscribe to this thread for the sake of morbid curiosity.

[smc]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Careful aw9725, some people *cough* might think you are excusing away your well established lapdog...ism. And mine as well. Keep it quiet. Clearly whenever we agree with someone, especially when that someone is smc (who sometimes goes unnamed), we are kowtowing to him. It can't possibly be something reasonable was said and we are agreeing. So shhh. The plan to institute digital apartheid--whatever the fuck that might be--has to go off without a hitch.

Now I need to subscribe to this thread for the sake of morbid curiosity.

The thing is, it was actually KittyKaiti who first took on what JodieTS and only then aw9725 referred to as a "troll." So how did they get left out of this pack of lapdogs?

Actually, I'm thinking of a "career change" and instead of being a leader of what Enoch Root calls "digital apartheid" (oh, the exquisite irony!) I am going to ask Kaiti if I can audition as HER lapdog.

[patrick10122]

well I've had a long discussion with a f2m before who felt like they were born in the wrong body so my guess it many m2f feel the same way but everyone probably does it for a different reason

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by smc

The thing is, it was actually KittyKaiti who first took on what JodieTS and only then aw9725 referred to as a "troll." So how did they get left out of this pack of lapdogs?

Actually, I'm thinking of a "career change" and instead of being a leader of what Enoch Root calls "digital apartheid" (oh, the exquisite irony!) I am going to ask Kaiti if I can audition as HER lapdog.

I feel like a fool. Why is "digital apartheid" ironic? Even exquisite irony?

[smc]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

I feel like a fool. Why is "digital apartheid" ironic? Even exquisite irony?

Seriously? Nothing about leaving out some of the lapdogs?

I don't know why you should feel like a fool. I was thinking of "situational irony" where something has the opposite effect of what was intended. Not your intent, but that of someone else ... you know who.

By the way, exquisite was a COMPLIMENT!

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by smc

Seriously? Nothing about leaving out some of the lapdogs?

I don't know why you should feel like a fool. I was thinking of "situational irony" where something has the opposite effect of what was intended. Not your intent, but that of someone else ... you know who.

By the way, exquisite was a COMPLIMENT!

Leaving out some of the lapdogs?

Thank you, now I know what you meant by irony. Although you say "opposite effect" but since I did mean to be ironic--I might be confused again.

Originally Posted by smc

I'm actually more of a cat person than a dog person.

Most ?evil dictators? are--see pic? Just kidding of course!!!

At my home it?s actually the cat who is the one in charge?

[Pied]

I know four TS ladies well. They are every bit a lady as any GG i have every been around. They just happen to have male parts. They are full women to me and deserve the respect you would give any lady.

Originally Posted by Alexukr

It is a matter of identity, and they super extra way gay!
I think this way!

I had never considered myself as gay. I always considered myself bi, leaning more towards femininity. Though I more closely identify as pan-sexual.
So really... Sexual orientation and gender identity have nothing to do with each other.

Originally Posted by BlueRaven88

While the major "shemale" content out there is porn related, in truth, the true transgendered people transition from M2F or F2M because they suffer from GID (Gender Identity Disorder). They were born of the wrong gender and have never felt comfortable in their natural bodies, so they sought out psychiatric help and got on to prescription hormone tablets (testosterone or estrogen, depending on their biological/physical gender, and what their mental/emotional/sexual gender is).

Not only this, but women are usually bi-sexual, just leaning towards either men or women as a preference, and most likely stay as women because they are attracted to femininity, so they believe that their partner would be as well, whereas a transsexual knows that they are unattractive physically to the type of person they are trying to attract, so they change themselves to suit who they feel they really are. Women are usually more open-minded and accepting of different shapes and forms, and are somewhat more pansexual than men (Pansexual meaning they choose their partners to aesthetic attraction and romantic feelings, rather than physical attributes).

Oh and in case you hadn't guessed by now, I voted that it was a matter of gender identity issue

Hope this has shed some light on the subject at hand, and sorry about the wall of text that slapped you in the face :P

Uhem... It's Gender Identity Dysphoria. It's not a mental disorder. It's a birth defect.

And I never felt that I should transition because I was unattractive to people I was trying to attract. I transitioned because I was not comfortable in the body I was born it.
I have had sexual experiences with men before I transitioned, but did not enjoy it because they were attracted to the male figure they had before them. I never liked being treated as a man!

Originally Posted by hankhavelock

And in the end it makes sense to separate transsexuality from transvestism. Transsexuality is a matter of gender-identity (the wrong body thing). Transvestism is a matter of an attraction/need to dress in the clothing of the opposite sex.

Yes... I myself started out as identifying as a bisexual cross dresser. But I never felt that was the right way for me to go. I didn't learn of transsexualism till I was 26, so it took me awhile to find my true self.

Originally Posted by The Conquistador

But could it be possible that it is genetic?

Yes... In fact in the late '90s there was a study that found that all of the transsexual brains in the study (cadavers), had all the genetic similarities to cis females brains.
And no not all of the transsexuals in the study had ever undergone HRT.

Originally Posted by KittyKaiti

The amount of ignorance on the poll is disturbing.

All I can say is "FUCK Y'ALL"

Hehe... Love you Katie :D

Originally Posted by shadows

"They are perverts and it's really rather disgusting."

Two people actually chose this option? I have one question for them. Why the fuck are/were you even at this site then?

Those are called trolls... they like to get under peoples skin. For one reason or another.

Originally Posted by JodieTs

My little joke of the day:
What's the difference between a crossdresser and a TS?
ans: About two and a half years!

Not true, but funny, and even funnier when I tell that joke
and see the resultant worried looks on crossdressers faces!

Bad Jodie!!!

No not bad... Jodie are good.

[anonymous666]

I am a male, age around 21, I wanted to be a shemale so badly, but how should I start? Can anyone teach me?

[ila]

There are other threads on this. Search the Chat about shemales forum. If I find an appropriate thread I'll move your thread there so that you can find the topics.

[anonymous666]

Originally Posted by ila

There are other threads on this. Search the Chat about shemales forum. If I find an appropriate thread I'll move your thread there so that you can find the topics.

Oh, Thanks a lot, I am still new here. How to move the thread?

[ila]

Originally Posted by anonymous666

Oh, Thanks a lot, I am still new here. How to move the thread?

One of the moderators will move the thread.

[anonymous666]

Originally Posted by ila

One of the moderators will move the thread.

Thanks alot.......

[candypops]

Originally Posted by Bionca

Why do you all think that men feel the need to take hormones and/or modify their bodies to take on a feminine form?

honey, we were never 'men'. we may have acted like it in order to survive, but deep down, we were/are really pissed at mother nature not paying attention...

but now, post op, there is nothing quite like belonging in your own head, your own body, and your own high heels

[ginger22]

Originally Posted by vibesfan

The Philippine LB that I knew told that I knew told me that ever since she was young she believed that she was supposed to be female. At puberty she thought that she was gay.Later she learned about transsexualism and understood her situation. She started her transformation at that time. I believe that shemales are truly woman in mens bodies. Nature is not perfect and mistakes do happen.

that's about it

Originally Posted by candypops

honey, we were never 'men'. we may have acted like it in order to survive, but deep down, we were/are really pissed at mother nature not paying attention...

but now, post op, there is nothing quite like belonging in your own head, your own body, and your own high heels

puts a smile on my face to read. go get em, honey!

transgender girls are born with a female brain , it can not be changed by any medical procedure,only there bodies can be changed to match there brain.

RONNIE

[wxhluyp]

It is almost option 1

"Is it a matter of identity (they feel deep down that they were born in the wrong body)?"

Although the notion that there is a real underlying gender identity is a delusion, it doesn't necessarily mean that transitioning is not justified.

[smc]

Originally Posted by wxhluyp

It is almost option 1

"Is it a matter of identity (they feel deep down that they were born in the wrong body)?"

Although the notion that there is a real underlying gender identity is a delusion, it doesn't necessarily mean that transitioning is not justified.

The self-proclaimed expert returns, stating as absolute truths that which cannot be proven. And I've always thought it odd that you identify yourself in your signature as an autogynephiliac, which suggests an acceptance of Blanchard's transsexualism typology, while at the same time lecturing us that gender identity is a delusion. After all, Blanchard (and his highly suspect data) essentially reduces gender identity to that to which one is attracted.

[wxhluyp]

Originally Posted by smc

The self-proclaimed expert returns, stating as absolute truths that which cannot be proven. And I've always thought it odd that you identify yourself in your signature as an autogynephiliac, which suggests an acceptance of Blanchard's transsexualism typology, while at the same time lecturing us that gender identity is a delusion. After all, Blanchard (and his highly suspect data) essentially reduces gender identity to that to which one is attracted.

Autogynephiliac is rather its the relation to self through social-masochistic femininity. Most autogynephiliacs identify loosely as "loving oneself as a woman". Blanchard is a joke!

Do you think there is an innate experience of gender, let alone self-identity?

[a9127]

Probably my last post on here:

It's a matter of Identity.

[Tgirlluv]

I voted identity.

Can't imagine anyone's going to go through such a long and difficult process if they didn't feel compelled to do so.