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Bailey Jay is a bust.
There was a lot of hype of Bailey Jay's new site. It has received a lot of praise. However, I disagree about the praise she has gotten. She has made a very poor porn product.
Bailey Jay's early video content was extremely bad. That's just an understatement. The video quality was unwatchable. The SMC Network normally has good quality, but Bailey was not close to those standards. This is 2010 your early videos should not look like a 1990s amateur video. Paying members made compliments in comments. How did Bailey respond? Instead of improving quality she disabled member comments. She also removed her own forum as well because of the compliments. That's professional. However, apparently Bailey finally got a new cameraman to do her videos, and thankfully the quality has improved. Bailey Jay does have hardcore scenes with guys. However she only shoots scenes with guys in POV. However, her content with Tgirls is not in POV. POV has limited angles. I doubt most members only want to see her have sex with guys in POV. Finally her solo scenes are very boring. She does not talk dirty in her videos. In some videos she does not say one word. In my final words, Bailey Jay has delivered a poor product. Her pretty face is the only reason why the poor quality of her product is overlooked. |
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Sigma believes that he is the arbiter of quality in porn. He does not express his opinion as opinion, but as fact. Only he, it would seem knows what is good in porn, and what people want. The fact that people pay for something where he might not has nothing to do with it. and/or Sigma represents porn purveyors who compete with those he consistently badmouths on this site. |
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I did express my opinion as an opinion. Did you not read the third sentence?
Also a person does not need to always say "in my opinion". Opinions are expressed by using adjectives. Opinions also cannot be proven to be true. However they are also not false. That's why they are called opinions. |
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It is not true that "opinions" cannot be proven to be true, nor are they false. Opinions that are predicated on false information or false assumptions can themselves be false, because they are not really opinions, but misstatements of fact masquerading as opinions. Nevertheless, at issue here is that in your posts you present yourself as the arbiter of quality. You write: "In my final words, Bailey Jay has delivered a poor product. Her pretty face is the only reason why the poor quality of her product is overlooked." This is a statement presented as fact, and it is insulting to others, too, because you position yourself as the all-knowing person who recognizes the poor quality, whereas all the other dumb slobs are so taken by Bailey's "pretty face" that they "overlook" everything else. Has it occurred to you that Bailey Jay is a superstar not because of dupes, but because the majority of people who have contributed to making her a superstar simply don't see things the way you do? As I read it, you have a need to compensate for the fact that you don't like being in the minority by impugning the cognizant abilities of those who don't agree with you. That's my opinion. |
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Again it is just an opinion. I do not hold the title of the "all knowing being". Just because I'm the only member who has the balls to criticize someone does not mean that I think I'm better than others. |
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I think Bailey Jay is very hot
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Anyone can have an ?opinion.? A two year old can have an ?opinion.? That excuse ?I?m just expressing my opinion? is just BS and doesn?t cut it. I suppose most of us don?t post critical comments here, not because we don?t ?have the balls? but perhaps because we seriously like (love?) and appreciate these beautiful women who perform for us.
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I appreciate girls who are attractive and give good performances. Being a transsexual does not give a tgirl the right to be appreciated by doing porn. She needs to earn her appreciation by producing a good product. I don't expect people to appreciate me without earning it. Another weird thing is you said "love". I don't understand why it is so common to see tgirl porn watchers say they love someone who they never met. It's seems creepy and stalker like. Instead of having an actually debate a couple of members decided to be offended. |
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You don?t seems to have the intention of having an actually debate. You start Threads with dismissive titles and try to find others who share your view. Quote:
You could have expressed that you want to see more hardcore, dirty talking, ? of her or anything like that, but instead you call her, the site and her products a bust. A respectful or constructive criticism is something different. |
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There is nothing to debate. Last edited by aw9725; 11-26-2010 at 02:50 PM. |
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How are my comments ill-informed? I am a member of the Tgirl Network. I do enjoy the sites and their content. I am not pleased with Bailey's product. Criticizing someone can be seen as selfish, but it's not childish.
I have seen a lot of people on many different tgirl sites say they "love" the girl. There is no other type of porn that has this many people saying "I love her". I've been a member on some of the top straight porn sites. It is rare to see someone say "I love her". However, it is very common to see that on a tgirl site. The quality of her product was up for debate. Don't twist things around. |
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There is a debate. You hide behind the fact that you're not "winning" by trying to change the subject. |
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I was very clear in my opening. I'm not responsible for your lack of reading and comprehending skills.
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To be fair Bailey is just getting started , she does her guy scenes POV to give her guy fans the illusion of being the guy fucking her ... and while it limits what positions are used it does have perks. And nothing ruins a good jerk more than when the cam is on the girl then jumps to the dudes face! Nooooooo focus the cam on her dammit !
She will improve w/ time and bigger budgets.
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As aw9725 put it ... |
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Does every guy scene have to be in POV? Isn't the point of porn is to fantasize regardless of the video style? I don't like POV scenes. Although I would not mind if not all of her guy scenes were POV. The other SMC girls do have POV, they also have regular view porn as well for their members. |
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Sigma, you are allowed to purchase a product or a service. You can only choose if you want it or not. You own nobody and can?t dictate anybody because you are a paying member. You can voice your wishes, but don?t bash on something because you prefer it different.
I think your whole complaining threads sound a bit like this: There is a major problem in my town, there are way too less restaurants where you can get quality food. The steak house is a totally bust, because you have to wait a long time until I get my food and no drive in counter. The Frenchman is totally overrated, because they have so much courses, knifes, forks and spoons. And you get nothing in a bun. The Indian (the one from Asia) is a totally hole, everything is so spicy, and you don?t get beef. The Japanese is a wash-out, they sell cold rice products and even raw fish. There is absolutely nothing with cheese. The Italian is a flop. They make too much pasta, and the pizza is too big. They have to sell something in a handy bag. The big problem stays: There are not enough restaurants, and most are foreigners. Only the fast food burgers are good. But there are only five fast food chains here and one of them sells only friggin chicken. |
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In the past I noticed that you , as a Moderator, "kicked" people for a political statement that simply asked the poster to re-think his statement through the eyes of the people that it affects. I hope this will not be your choice again I actually disagree with Sigma, however, there is no need to attack him. |
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Take a moment. Reread every one of his posts in this thread and his responses to those who challenged those posts. Take your time. Think about it carefully. Now, come back and show us how he did NOT do what I wrote characterizing his approach to the debate. |
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I did attack me by lying that I have changed the subject of the debate, but it was YOU WHO CHANGED the subject.
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My PM (the P stands for private, and that's how you should have responded) was not a threat that I would ban you. It was a warning that your responses lead you on the path to violating one of our rules. I should have made clear that were it to come to a ban, it would be someone else doing the banning, and in that respect I was not clear. |
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I have NOT violated any rules. I actually read the rules before I made this topic and posts. I have only attacked providers who refused to shoot American Tgirls and I attacked Bailey's product. |
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Define ?unwatchable.? Are you referring to the technical quality of the video? Or is it the camera angles and content? If the former, there can be some objective measure of quality. As for the latter two, it is again a question of personal preference. Bailey?s success suggests that your personal desires are in the minority, or that people want to see her irrespective of what she is doing on film and how. In either case, hers is a product that clearly sells. Quote:
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I think I?ve made my point. Some may agree; others may disagree. |
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I admit her product does sell. However, I'll explain everything again to answer your question.
What I meant by unwatchable is the video quality and the angles. Like I said in the Op the videos looked like amateur porn. In her POV videos the cameraman has the camera viewed at her back so all we see is her skin......... It is impossible to see if people are "voting" by renewing their memberships. The Tgirl Network features over ten sites with girls such as Kimber James, Vanity, Foxxxy, etc. The network has many top girls that some members maybe more interested in them than Bailey. However, people can join Bailey site at a lower cost by only buying access to Bailey's site. That's the only way to judge how many people are actually pleased with her product. I just login the Tgirl Network to see the ratings of Bailey's POV hardcore movies. All of them have high ratings. The problem is there is no number of voters listed. It is impossible to say how many people voted. I do know one thing for a fact. A lot of members made complaints about the quality and she no longer allows members to post comments. No other girl on the Tgirl Network has done this. I have also downloaded her scene with Sarina. The video quality has slight improved. The quality of her scene is still subpar to the other girls of the Tgirl Network. At the end of the day quality is subjective. What I see as quality will be different then other people. Quality is judged by what people WANT. It does not matter if someone is in the majority or minority it will be judged by what the group wants. |
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I nominate this for post of the week. |
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I think Sigma has a fair point, though it could have been expressed differently.
Though I've not seen any Bailey Jay videos, I don't like POV shots at all specifically because the shot is done to let the viewer imagine that they are the person penetrating the other performer. That's about the biggest turn off for me in the whole world. While I'm really sexually into other transsexual females I'm not into penetrating them {or any one else for that matter} Then again, other trans are probably not the target audience for Bailey Some POV porn with a trans female penetrating another trans female would really do it for me ....as long as I didn't think of the performers 'at-the-time-reality' of being hard through Viagra and when penetrating the other performer thinking: "god, I'm bored, get some shopping on the way home, don't forget to book a car service, move to the side slightly for better lighting on the penetration shot, mum's birthday Friday, the shoot lights are really hot, I hope that my sweat doesn't show up too much on film, ok fake the climax, now splatter the Galveston on her tits and face" Oh the joys of porn shoots.... |
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You ought to do a little bit more exploration of what the word "quality" actually means.
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Quality is based on the CONSUMERS' expectations. Not every consumer has the same expectations of a product. That is SUBJECTIVE. |
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Nevertheless, product quality has to do with the features and characteristics of a product that contribute to its ability to meed given requirements. Many of those requirements are subjective, and can only be measured by the individual. For instance, as ridiculous as it may seem, one might argue that red hair is a requirement on a pornstar and that a pornstar with brown hair, consequently, does not meet a quality standard. Again, it's a ridiculous use of the word "quality" but it is not incorrect, technically. However, some of those requirements are NOT subjective. In a car, the ability to meet standardized measures of braking ability or fuel economy, etc., are not subjective (the creation of the standard may be, but the meeting of it as a measure of quality is objective). That's all I said. |
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Bailey Jay in the kitchen.
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Don't see anything wrong with her.
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