Once again it has been painfully established that this forum is better than most...

[hankhavelock]

Me and Newdude did our best at LB-69, and now we're TRULY unpopular there. I was labelled an elitist, condescending prick (there may some truth to that, though) and Newdude was met with a complete lack of understanding.

Well, they call trans*women "blokes" there, so what did we expect?

So back on the block after a wee excursion to foreign territories.

My GOODNESS, this is such a good forum in spite of our occasional hick-ups and disagreements.

I ain't going anywhere... except to Bali next week to my little Missy M... and Newdude hasn't got to go anywhere... he's such a fortunate guy... :-) He has this leather-clad princess who enjoys having kinky sex and kinky conversations with him... challenging him to the edge of his limits... succesfully... grrr...

Love u, pal and thx for the support!

H

[hankhavelock]

Here's the last one... read n weap... we're really under fire there now... :-)

Originally Posted by Breezy272

I also understand that you have this twisted view of what an LB really is. I understand that LBs themselves would consider themselves to be women, but when it comes down to it, they have XY chromosomes, no plastic surgery or medical procedure can change that, so technically these "ladies" of whom you speak, are in fact MEN, and that is absolute truth.

I always feel so happily enlightened when I stumble over ingenious folks like you with such devine and deeply empathical view points on the concept of transsexuality. Ofcourse, I'm wrong and obviously you're right, my dear man.

In the end they're just "blokes"... right?

Keep it coming! You are so right! And may the whole world live to understand the tremendous depths of your sayings.
Give my regards to your good mother as well!

Peace be upon you, my amazingly intelligent friend and now mentor!

In respect and gratitude

Hank

[cyp73]

Hello

With great amusement I followed the discussion on your post at lb69. The message was clear and well written. Only most of the lb69 public will not understand the essence of it.Or in case they do disagree. You opened up their eyes and that is exactly what they fear the most in their lonely lives. They can write the word relationship, respect and transgender but 90% of that forum simply fail to see what it means. Instead poking, backstabbing and cheating each other. Calling a ladyboy by number or bloke says it all. Some start investigating and when they dig up so called dirt from a dating site they think they found something. Poor poor Anthony. He used to be my friend but he still hasn't learned a lot. Full of hate and frustration. Envy and selfish behaviour blinding his narrow mind. A man who needs to feed his ego by trying to become the ladyboy guru on that site is pitiful character. That tells any clever person what Anthony in fact is. A bloke born alone and dying alone. His reputation in Pattaya and Phuket is terrible. Bareback, cheap Charlie and screwing his friends ladyboy girlfriends when they are not around. With absolutely no respect to any ladyboy or human being. Amsterdam gay boys ( yes don't believe what he tells his followers he is 100 % gay) know him but they can handle him.

Only beware not to irritate that forum too much. Lb69 is not a forum to discuss serious matters because they have to sell a product. Your ideas start to let people think and that is exactly what the shareholders of that forum like to avoid. Some are entangled in the Pattaya or Phuket bar business or exploit ladyboys with movies or cheap photos. Others run a private escort in Bangkok. Make a fake website with Bangkok lb escort and shortly after that you get e mails by dodgy characters who are figuring out who you are .

The minute lb69 starts dealing with the transgender issue in a serious way business will go down. The guys who make a living out of it fully realize that. Some other forums run the same way. Asiants by Stogie works the same. Start serious and you might attract a sophisticated public who don't care about a miniskirt contest presented by the ever loving Rossco. Not good for business. Better play it safe and aim at the mates and blokes.
That is why they make utter fools like Anthony head of the boys room. He is so dumb he doesn't even see. The same goes for many the trip reports there. They all look and read the same. Not surprising to me because many BM's never finished their elementary school.

In particular where you pointed how many members cheated on their Newcastle wives hit a soft spot. Writing this drives some of them crazy. For many it is like find them, fuck them and forget them. Guys like Dixoncox, Rossco or Anthony are the champions in doing that. Why ? somewhere in their life they failed in a relationship. Instead of facing it and carry on they kept tangled up in blue. Becoming a meat machine was the only way out. And we all know a machine doesn't know or understand the word respect.

Your ideas and views about relationships with a transgender are too far fetched. They really not know what it means and to be honest not interested in finding out. Their whole life is doing the same over and over again. Fooling themselves by calling it to get a life 365 days a year.

Originally Posted by hankhavelock

Here's the last one... read n weap... we're really under fire there now... :-)



I always feel so happily enlightened when I stumble over ingenious folks like you with such devine and deeply empathical view points on the concept of transsexuality. Ofcourse, I'm wrong and obviously you're right, my dear man.

In the end they're just "blokes"... right?

Keep it coming! You are so right! And may the whole world live to understand the tremendous depths of your sayings.
Give my regards to your good mother as well!

Peace be upon you, my amazingly intelligent friend and now mentor!

In respect and gratitude

Hank

[Bionca]

Hank, I think you and NewDude did a super job on that thread. I have the same issues with Lb69. I find it curious that you don't find ANY trans women posting there more than a couple times. One would think that an escort in Australia would try to drum up some low season business - or something. I think it's a testimony to how bad the place is.

[hankhavelock]

Originally Posted by Bionca

Hank, I think you and NewDude did a super job on that thread. I have the same issues with Lb69. I find it curious that you don't find ANY trans women posting there more than a couple times. One would think that an escort in Australia would try to drum up some low season business - or something. I think it's a testimony to how bad the place is.

The main problem with such fora (as well as with ppl who claim that buying porn "helps" trans*women) is the unbalanced view they give on trans*life. It's either prostitution, porn or obscurity - and nothing is further from the truth.

I don't know if lb69 is bad per se, it's just rather one-sided and inhabitated with guys who promote a limited view on trans*women and their mental habitus.

[chelsea]

This ones by far the best in my opinion

[swimson]

Originally Posted by hankhavelock

The main problem with such fora (as well as with ppl who claim that buying porn "helps" trans*women) is the unbalanced view they give on trans*life. It's either prostitution, porn or obscurity - and nothing is further from the truth.

I don't know if lb69 is bad per se, it's just rather one-sided and inhabitated with guys who promote a limited view on trans*women and their mental habitus.

I fear this is going to come across a little weaksauce, if only because i'm only 24 but I was checking out lb69 when I was 16-18 (that kinda age) and it wasn't that great then and now for me....i really am not that interested in the whole hooker, one night stand type scene. (the pron isnt that bad tho...from memory)
I'd like a ts girlfriend, I have the want and understanding to get to know the psyche of a ts better and actually conduct some kind of relationship before I go wherever and actually have sex.....yes i'm a poor student but still.

So yeah...I was browing through earlier on after attempting to spend a day drawing and actually spending a day reading through this site and others and you've all been reallly helpful and I just had to join so I didn't miss out on some swish content.

Thanks a ton guys!

P.S. - I have actually had ts relationships from as young as 18 and yeah it's not phase or anything....good times. Kinda like a desert right now but still.
Heh...nevermind.

Originally Posted by hankhavelock

The main problem with such fora (as well as with ppl who claim that buying porn "helps" trans*women) is the unbalanced view they give on trans*life. It's either prostitution, porn or obscurity - and nothing is further from the truth.

I don't know if lb69 is bad per se, it's just rather one-sided and inhabitated with guys who promote a limited view on trans*women and their mental habitus.

Hi Mr Havelock,

I think this forum is quite liberal and tolerant compared to sites like lb69 or Asiants. Disagree with the moderating team there and you get whiped out. The worst sites at this moment are ladyboy ladyboy and Frank's T world. First censorship to make them look good old boys. If that doesn't work these guys start looking for members who disagree with their" narrow" view. Mr Seanchai even sends nice death messages. Now does anyone know any other forum that actually threatens to kill it's own members.

You don't have be sarcastic or cynical when you argue with them. No if you beat them with arguments they really get annoyed. Then they start backstabbing. Asiants is very good at revealing ip addresses. Especially a funny fellow called Bumpa Sticka. Perhaps he also put credit card information on the net. Talk about privacy there. Perhaps a loyal member of the Grooby church or one the Sean's who keep haunting infidels. Almost like scientology.

Further I wouldn't even bother how these guys look at ladyboys. Personally most have no medical education whatsoever. What do they know about xy chromosome issues and ladyboys nothing. And their philosophy of having a relationship. Well ask the Newcastle wives they left. Or better ask Stogie why he sold Asiants. Or why he posted about the porcelain princess on international sex guide.

[british_boy]

I've had a few little gripes on this forum myself, but having just taken my first look around LB69, I can see that in general that it's pretty enlightened and respectful here.

It seems that LB69 is a grubby site for macho whore mongers, and even the colour scheme there sets the tone.

[QUOTE=hankhavelock;99568]The main problem with such fora (as well as with ppl who claim that buying porn "helps" trans*women) is the unbalanced view they give on trans*life. It's either prostitution, porn or obscurity - and nothing is further from the truth.

Hi

Forgot to mention:
indeed some ppl believe that buying porn " helps" transwomen. Big Bs. It only helps the guys who produce and sell it. Most ladyboys in Thailand don't earn more than between 2000 to maybe 4000 bath for a photo or movie. A Japanese customer pays more for LT stay than all the hours doing on photo's and videos. In most cases they have to booms the director or camera man too. So anyone who believes in helping them should reconsider.

I'm not opposed against porn movies. Only pay the models a fair price and not a left over. Pay them their money down.

[alphanumeric]

I agree, I intensely dislike their attitude about paying the girls. All of their attitudes are "Don't let those nasty LB's overcharge you!" Nevermind that's how they make their living and probably support their family.

Eh, in the end, to each their own.

Originally Posted by alphanumeric

I agree, I intensely dislike their attitude about paying the girls. All of their attitudes are "Don't let those nasty LB's overcharge you!" Nevermind that's how they make their living and probably support their family.

Eh, in the end, to each their own.

Exactly when a person takes Groobies world serious. Then this person truly believes that those Nasty lb's overcharge. While Groobies or bumpa STICKA's are the Lehman Brothers of porn websites. Nicely letting ladyboys go fattening frogs for snakes. Many ladyboys don't realize what money they could make in the West would they be able to take business in their own hands.