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Beautiful And Smart. If you ask me it can't get better.
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The picture speaks for itself. And anyone who can discuss the zygote is pretty smart.
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The picture speaks for itself. And anyone who can discuss the zygote is pretty smart.
We could discuss physics - I'll show you that I can be a pretty big bubble-head then
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Well Than? Where is a common place to find half-intergers in particle physics?

She asked for it.
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*eyes glass over as she smiles*

I dunno

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Yes ladies and gents, the great American Bubble-Head.. full of air and slowly leaking..
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You mean, using the Glans of the penis to create the Clitoris? ...Because, thats where the sex nerves are most thoroughly distributed. Otherwise, there would be no "Real" feeling left in the genital organ.
I dont know where the skin will go in a vagina ( probably external labia), or where does the shaft fit in. May be the urinal tract will perform the same function in the new vagina?
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A fermion: a particle with half-integer spin
Right, Belfagar?
On 2nd thoughts, I should add Baryons.

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I feel like Harry Potter in Horace Slughorn's class!
Answering to spin of sub-atomic-particles, in here?
Well "Blame it on Rio", I mean belfagar.
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Hmm, a discussion of particle physics, psychology, physiology, biology and the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. Has someone engaged the improbobility drive?


Seriously though Bionca,
It's hard to find a soul mate. I'm 50 and I still haven't. Don't let a few jerks discourage you. There are a great number of jerks out there so odds are that you are going to meet quite a few.
Adding your uniqeness to the equation makes finding the right one even harder.
You should know that some guys will do things when they are horny that they might regret having done after they've climaxed. That's why they can act so strange. It's much like a drug addiction.
A guy might believe in his heart that it's wrong to have sex with you, yet he is still very sexually attracted to you. He forgets his heartfelt beliefs and follows his penis. Afterwards he feels guilty.
He may blame you for turning him into a fag, a queer, gay, etc. He also may lash out at you verbally or even physically, so be very careful even though you've been upfront about who you are from the start.
When you are going out with a new guy find out all that you can about him and let someone else (a friend or a relative) know. Also, it's a good idea to non-chalantly let him know that someone knows that you are with him.
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Thanks Joebad, I guess I understand why guys react the way they do... but I'm surprised at how common the reaction is. For example, the guy who I went out with twice - he was so keen to get things started, to the point I almost didn't put out because I was feeling a little pressure from him to do so, but after the first non-sex date I figured he was cool. I just don't know. Every T-girl I know is single, all of them who are actively seeking a relationship get offers for dates promising that the guy is "relationship minded" and all of them end up feeling like they were just used for sex.

It's hardly unique to T-gals, genetic girls get the same treatment. But the number of GG's in a relationship is much higher than TGs. It's a bit baffling to me.

You are 100% correct about safety. Women get beat and raped on dates, gay guys get beat and raped on dates, and TGs get a to deal with both sides. I have a friend who will call my cell phone while I'm on a date, just to let my date know that I have friends watching out for me. I also would never ever meet someone for the first time in private. Always meet for coffee, if things seem cool and safe.. then maybe we can go someplace more quiet. The meet me for coffee bit also weeds out the guys who are expecting an escort or who would be afraid to be seen with a girl like me in public.
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You mean, using the Glans of the penis to create the Clitoris? ...Because, thats where the sex nerves are most thoroughly distributed. Otherwise, there would be no "Real" feeling left in the genital organ.
I dont know where the skin will go in a vagina ( probably external labia), or where does the shaft fit in. May be the urinal tract will perform the same function in the new vagina?
They use as much of the penis as they can. I don't know a ton about the actual procedeure, I figure I'll cross that bridge when and if I come to it. I do know that the procedeure of removing the testicles and sack (to reduce prodution of testosterone) is no longer performed by most doctors because it limits what they have to work with when creating the vagina.
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We could discuss physics - I'll show you that I can be a pretty big bubble-head then
Physics? Now that's my kind of girl.
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They use as much of the penis as they can. I don't know a ton about the actual procedeure, I figure I'll cross that bridge when and if I come to it.
That is another thing that complicates your situation. If you meet someone who desires you as you are now, will he still desire you if you cross that bridge?

If he really loves you, I guess he will, but that would be a bad time to find out that he is too shallow. Just when you would need love and support the most.

I think that could be a good question to poll the group about. I'm not quite sure how to word it, but the gist would be: If you were find the perfect pre-op transgender woman in real life, would you still desire her post-op?
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Now that equation looks really sad from here.
May be demography doesnt apply to witty A-graders like Bionca here.
C'mon ladies, cheer up a bit, were not lost in Sahara desert for heaven's sake! We live in a randomly mixed up society with a miscellany of tastes for partners. Random like psychedelic bubbles! So everyone gets their cozy partner sooner or later.
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I must say the Internet has helped form a community where trans-folks and their admirers can meet up. The downside is we are a pretty small and widely spread group of people. I have mede a number of really good friends that I will probably never meet face to face. It's good to know that I'm not alone, but doesn't help the lack of quality dates.

One thing I have noticed, and this could just be my own observation and not anything more....

Guys who seem like they have a good heart and are honest and sincere seem to be located in really rural places. The chances of a cute TG living in Corn City Iowa is pretty pathetically low. Or they have a desire to meet a nice, smart, sweet TG to see where things lead; but find vapid, silly, selfish gals. While the gals who want quality and substance, not a sugar-daddy or one-off experimentation can't seem to find them. I suppose the advice to keep looking is the best.
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Yeahhhh,
Far far away...
People with similar interests are often separated by the width of the globe.
But dont let the sadness spread. Just capture it in your heart and linger on.
Life is not about what you dont have, but about what you have achieved.
Rest assured, you have already achieved something.

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Hmmm,
A lot of people are eagerly noting down that address right now!
Expect a knock on your door soon, girl!:D
May be expect thumps on that heavy door from a dozen suitors.
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Dang.. to bad I don't live in Corn City (don't even know if the place exists). Like all right-thinking T-girls, I'm living in an urban area. Maybe I should visit some small towns while I have some free time.. any suggestions anyone?


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Thats a very sound advice. If your heart can love, you will find a soulmate, no matter what. ... Because Love always wins.
Bless us loveseekers, O Father who is in Heaven, Amen.
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I think that could be a good question to poll the group about. I'm not quite sure how to word it, but the gist would be: If you were find the perfect pre-op transgender woman in real life, would you still desire her post-op?
I think that's a great question, but I wouldn't ask it. I don't think guys would feel comfortable saying "no" if asked by a TG. I'd like to think that we fall in love with people, and we love our partners nomatter how their bodies change.

Realistically, though, sexual attraction is important in a relationship and part of that is desire for your partner's body. I know lots of people who love their partners, but lose sexual interest after they gain weight, get in an accident that scars their face, things like that. They love their partners, and wouldn't leave them, but the desire isn't there. I'd imagine the same would be true for someone who was attracted to pre-op TGs. They may stay in the relationship out of love or loyalty, but maybe the attraction would lessen...
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Bionca- You really apear to be a sweet, intelligent & attrative girl. With your outgoing personality, your bound to find the right one. But, as with all of us, we can't know when the right one will cross our path, so in the meantime, be the best person you can be, and be happy and satisfied as a single person until the time comes. So many others have jumped into relationships with the wrong people, and have regretted it.

It may take some time before the transgendered are accepted among the majority of Americans, but it has to get better. Be who you are!

If you're ever in the Miami/Ft Lauderdale area, let me know. Lots of love....
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Miami huh???

Well I do have two options for a job assignment doing outreach and mentoring for runaway GLBT youth in either Miami or L.A. It seems like a good project trying to get the kids off the street and provide them with some living skills - like getting a job, paying bills, balancing a checkbook, as well as showing productive adult role models that they can relate to.

So... I may be in Miami in a couple months (or L.A.)

Also, thanks - I'm actually enjoying being single. I haven't been single since I was 20, so it's just taking some adjustment.
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Sounds like very worthwhile work. A chance to have a positive effect on many young people. ... Although I'm turning in now, I'll be keeping an eye on your posts to see what's up. I just joined yesterday, and it seems like an interesting forum. Plenty of guys, but with that comes a lot of guys' thoughts/opinions. 'night...
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That is pure wisdom. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with all of us.
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if i had my life to a point where i was more independant, and if i lived in the good ol' U.S of A then i would definately ask you out. you are totally cute and any guy who says otherwise is a nutjob.
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I have always wanted to visit my friend Mike in Sydney.. I know not even close to you, but the same hemisphere. I have to say that I have a soft spot for Aussie guys ...
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Wow. Just read through this thread. Have to say Bionca, you are a very intelligent woman. Way out of my league there, my loss i guess. As far as looks. To see your pictures i would no way imagine that your were not GG if you hadn't said it.
There are so many things to say to all the question posed.
What i will say is this, If you ever find yourself in the midwest I would love to meet you for coffee. Nothing further, just pick your brain and get to know somebody. Good luck in your search for love. I was married, divorced, engaged, and dumped before I found a woman to love who loved me. It is hard enough for "straight" people (sorry, couldnt think of any other way to word it) i can't imagine what it would be like for you.
And this is where i go back to the shallow end of the pool. This thread got way deep for me.
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Bionca - stunning thread and very useful insight. Pity you're not on this side of the pond really. Given your considered discursive technique, etc, a full-blown night of conversation with you would probably be as stimulating as anything else - more so in fact!

An intelligent, witty and good-looking woman such as yourself is very hard to find and you put your case and situation forward very well and I for one am glad you have. I have nothing but respect and admiration for you. I hope you find love soon and that someone sees you for who you are and not what they might expect you to be. I don't know about anyone else, but I feel as I though I know you already - if that's not being too presumptuous!

Given your broad range of interests, it would be very good to get to know you - talk late into the night and put the world to rights!

All the very best wishes.

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Wow. Just read through this thread. Have to say Bionca, you are a very intelligent woman. Way out of my league there, my loss i guess. As far as looks. To see your pictures i would no way imagine that your were not GG if you hadn't said it.
There are so many things to say to all the question posed.
What i will say is this, If you ever find yourself in the midwest I would love to meet you for coffee. Nothing further, just pick your brain and get to know somebody. Good luck in your search for love. I was married, divorced, engaged, and dumped before I found a woman to love who loved me. It is hard enough for "straight" people (sorry, couldnt think of any other way to word it) i can't imagine what it would be like for you.
And this is where i go back to the shallow end of the pool. This thread got way deep for me.
Thanks.. I lurve coffee, so it's a deal. You are correct TGs don't have the market cornered on looking for love. It has gotten easer though, I can't imagine how it would be without the Internet.
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Bionca - stunning thread and very useful insight. Pity you're not on this side of the pond really. Given your considered discursive technique, etc, a full-blown night of conversation with you would probably be as stimulating as anything else - more so in fact!

An intelligent, witty and good-looking woman such as yourself is very hard to find and you put your case and situation forward very well and I for one am glad you have. I have nothing but respect and admiration for you. I hope you find love soon and that someone sees you for who you are and not what they might expect you to be. I don't know about anyone else, but I feel as I though I know you already - if that's not being too presumptuous!

Given your broad range of interests, it would be very good to get to know you - talk late into the night and put the world to rights!

All the very best wishes.

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I have my moments where I babble on and sometimes it sounds like I know stuff. I really like when that happens. A night on conversation.. how wonderful is that??!! Coffee and comfy chairs and getting lost in an easy conversation that wanders from topic to topic until all thought of time evaporates. Yumm!!
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And.. I'm off to go dancing. Wish me luck. Perhaps I'll trip over Prince Charming on the way to the dance floor..
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"My only really carved in stone expectations are respect, understanding, and honesty. Ideally one would play around with the particulars of personality during the dating part."

"Personally, I'd rather be treated like a person you want to impress (on the first few dates). Not like someone you are obligated to take out for drinks just so you can get in her panties."



The first thing I quoted there is, in my eyes, absolutely true for any relationship. Your three minimum requirements are very feasible, which when coupled with the fact that you don't have a preconceived notion of personality makes your search seem headed in the right direction.

The second quote just makes me tingle. You are a person first, a woman second. Anyone who bypasses the first is not worth your time nor energy. And probably would be too self obsessed to do anything worthwhile were they to get into your panties.


In reading the previous posts, it's obvious that many think that you are beautiful. I agree. But your inner beauty is what really shines after reading this thread. Though you may not know who, and he may not know yet at all, I'm sure that you will find someone to love and cherish you for who you are, and not what you are. (Physical) beauty is only skin deep and I am convinced from the intelligent, honest and overall realistic way that you have described yourself that yours goes far, far further than a few layers of skin.

I wish you all the luck in the world, though with your impressive list of activities (what guy wouldn't want a beautiful girlfriend who loves to play video games?) and that beautiful smile, I'm sure my well-wishing will not be what gets you where you're going.
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Well, what are the odds...

I went to a gay club with my gayboy friends. I have no intention of meeting anyone, just having a good time with fun people and good music. Well... I met a fella

Total Straight friend of a friend thing. He was in the club with a couple of his pals who had dated a couple of my friends. We all hung out and he finally told me he had never seen such a natural looking Drag Queen. After I composed myself after nearly falling over laughing, I thanked him for the compliment and told him I was a Transsexual. He asked about my operation status (no op as yet and maybe never) along with some "get to know" conversation. He was funny charming and ... CUTE!

We went to breakfast (all of us) and he offered to take me home. Now momma didn't raise no dummy, and I have been sex-less for the better part of a year. I also kinda liked him since he didn't focus on my crotch in conversation and was really silly (humor really turns me on).

We went to his place... and talked more and watched the sun rise. He confessed that he was curious about "special girls", but wasn't gay. He was shy and awkward and there was a mixture of eagerness and apprehension. Here I had a 28 yearold ex-marine acting like a smitten schoolboy.

After some reassurances on my part and some gentle coaxing kisses I allowed him to explore my body with his hand and lips. We found ourselves eventually quite compatible sexually.

We spent the rest of Sunday together drinking coffee and generally "hanging out".
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I went to a gay club with my gayboy friends. I have no intention of meeting anyone, just having a good time with fun people and good music. Well... I met a fella

Total Straight friend of a friend thing. He was in the club with a couple of his pals who had dated a couple of my friends. We all hung out and he finally told me he had never seen such a natural looking Drag Queen. After I composed myself after nearly falling over laughing, I thanked him for the compliment and told him I was a Transsexual. He asked about my operation status (no op as yet and maybe never) along with some "get to know" conversation. He was funny charming and ... CUTE!

We went to breakfast (all of us) and he offered to take me home. Now momma didn't raise no dummy, and I have been sex-less for the better part of a year. I also kinda liked him since he didn't focus on my crotch in conversation and was really silly (humor really turns me on).

We went to his place... and talked more and watched the sun rise. He confessed that he was curious about "special girls", but wasn't gay. He was shy and awkward and there was a mixture of eagerness and apprehension. Here I had a 28 yearold ex-marine acting like a smitten schoolboy.

After some reassurances on my part and some gentle coaxing kisses I allowed him to explore my body with his hand and lips. We found ourselves eventually quite compatible sexually.

We spent the rest of Sunday together drinking coffee and generally "hanging out".


that's HOTTTT. So what does "with his hands and lips" mean
hahah. Great post
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I think I might be getting the hang of the way this works inasmuch the way the thread works. I'm bright but I'm not real smart

Very intersting line of dialogue... from physics to relationships. I guess you can't have one without the other.

I have to say I'm relieved to have found this forum because now I can see that there is a clear yet un-defined group of people who appreciate and are attracted to, whether sexually or not, transgender people. By un-defined I only mean that I know people who are gay and I know people that are bi and when I tell them I'm attracted to a woman with a penis, it kind of confuses them and although they obviously don't judge me... it's still different to them where their lifestyle would be considered alternative. Hmmm... I think that made sense!

I'd like to hear thoughts on that because if I need to be corrected in my terminology or attitude, I'd like to know. I've always tried to live my life with an open mind but amazingly ignorance will rear it's ugly head and I'll say something stupid and offend someone. So my apologies... your welcome to blast me if you want.
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that's HOTTTT. So what does "with his hands and lips" mean
hahah. Great post
Well inshort.. he kept bringing up how he "wasn't gay". We'd kiss and he'd pause because he "wasn't gay". Finally, I took his hands and ran them across my face and under my chin and asked if he was feeling a man's face, then to my breasts, then my stomach, then my hips, then my inner thigh.

Each time we moved from one part of the body to the next, he was calmer. Between each pregression I gave him a long soft kiss to punctuate that nothing hapening was the least bit homosexual. Except the part where half my lipstick rubbed off on his lips. I find that some teasing and coaxing with kisses tends to put guys at ease
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he kept bringing up how he "wasn't gay". We'd kiss and he'd pause because he "wasn't gay".
Thats sounds really funny; Like watching a film with Woody Allen in it.

The coaxing and relaxing part is understandable.
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Well things aren't working out with the new guy. It seems that he was looking to play around, which is fine. I was planning to move out of state soon, so wasn't looking long term either.

I just got off the phone with him and his problem is.. he likes me TOO MUCH !!
He likes me too much and can't deal with it. He's didn't seem too worried about people knowing about me, and didn't seem to have a problem with my body (at all). He just wasn't expecting to have feelings for me - he "just wanted to get off regularly".
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Hi Wisey,
Ah! I was hoping this ex-marine guy to fulfil your wishes. Darn! Dont get too upset, though. He seemed to be a nice man with good taste.(you described him to us)
He "liked you too much"? There's no surprise, you are Absolutely Likable!
But I didnt get one thing straight. Since he was in for you so much, and not bothered about what people will say, why did he have to run? Some deep rooted psychological phobia implanted by the society perhaps?
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Maybe he did have problems with being seen with a TS, maybe not - I don't know. It sounded like he was just after some sex and when he started having feelings he freaked out. The crazy thing is I wasn't really even trying to have a serious relationship this time.

Even though he said he wasn't gay, he did say he had been with a few guys. His standard of being "not gay" was that he didn't feel anything for the guys- it was just sex. He assumed being with me would be the same as being with a guy.

He should have known I wasn't like a guy when I had him ... oh nevermind *evil grin*
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Practically he IS gay, whether he imagines himself straight or not. Some people are really complicated, you know? Who is simple in this world? People have scores of hidden emotions, sometimes pushed back into the subconscious unknown to themselves!
And nowadays, everyone is looking around for some hot action. Just dry action, emotions securely locked up elsewhere. Strange!
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Well, everyone should be free to define their sexuality as best they understand it. As we all know there is gay and straight and a whole lot in between, just as there is man and woman and lots and lots in between as well. So, his definition of himself isn't a problem. His definition of ME was a problem.
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I have been thinking about the last guy, and I have to say I'm partly amused and partly a little angry that he was surprised that he liked me the way he likes women.

While I do have some typical "man" physical traits (aside from the crotch) I don't think I'm particularly "manish" in either my appearance or my manner or even in my personality (if a gender can be placed on personality).

Back to being completely baffled by guys I guess...
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