Some scary facts

[Bionca]

http://www.liminalis.de/project.html

"Every 3rd day the murder of a trans person is reported - Preliminary results of a new Trans Murder Monitoring Project show more than 200 reported cases of murdered trans people from January 2008 to June 2009"

These are just the ones reported and in many cases trans woman = "man in a dress" as far as the authorities and media go. From the reports:

Over 60% of reported murders are by current or former intimate partners

Most murders happened at close range and often targeted the genitalia of the victim

Brazil - hotbed of Shemale porn is the trans murder capital of the world.

Given the small number of trans women in the world this is sobering.

[tslust]

Hey, welcome back Bionca.

Originally Posted by Bionca

http://www.liminalis.de/project.html

"Every 3rd day the murder of a trans person is reported - Preliminary results of a new Trans Murder Monitoring Project show more than 200 reported cases of murdered trans people from January 2008 to June 2009"

These are just the ones reported and in many cases trans woman = "man in a dress" as far as the authorities and media go. From the reports:

Over 60% of reported murders are by current or former intimate partners

Most murders happened at close range and often targeted the genitalia of the victim

Brazil - hotbed of Shemale porn is the trans murder capital of the world.

Given the small number of trans women in the world this is sobering.

Ya, and my favorite is when the press and/or the authorities blame the victum for "deceiving" her attacker.

That's why I'm a gun packin' TV

[rockabilly]

Welcome back Ms. B!!

[transjen]

I alway love the mentality of those who think anyone differnt from them should be done away with and because i'm not like them it's ok to beat the daylights out of me, I always want to ask them who made them god and give them the right to decide who's normal and who ain't Jerseygirl Jen

[ssyslv]

that so many were ex lovers. It's bad that it's probably the 'cowards who date' Tgirls who are hurting and killing so many of these beautiful, courageous people.

[Bionca]

Originally Posted by rockabilly

Welcome back Ms. B!!

I'm not actually back, I took a gander at some other threads and the reasons I left are still very much part of the "friendly atmosphere".

[Talvenada]

Originally Posted by Bionca

I'm not actually back, I took a gander at some other threads and the reasons I left are still very much part of the "friendly atmosphere".

BIONCA:

I love your spunk, and not the wet kind. You want a humane world, which is being ahead of your time. It took Jesus Christ to go from a barbarian world to a civilized world, and it will take a major event to go from a civilized world to a humane one. You, like me, live in a country where you have those who are open to other points of view, because they understand that no matter how smart they are there is so much they don't know. Then, there are those who have all the answers, and need not listen to those of another opinion. I won't label them, but if you notice they seem to have similar characteristics.


PM me on the friendly situation that troubles you, because being a t-girl exposes you to something that others don't see. YOU have had a major impact on this site, and if you go the many won't understand reality from fantasy. Sometimes, you're even sexy. Like it or not, you are the t-girl that the other t-girls look up to. You are the one with the balls! You will fall many more times, and get up just as often.

PM me on what troubles you, as I didn't get what the hint was. I can only guess, but without certainty.


Piece,


TAL

[Bionca]

Originally Posted by Talvenada

BIONCA:

I love your spunk, and not the wet kind. You want a humane world, which is being ahead of your time. It took Jesus Christ to go from a barbarian world to a civilized world, and it will take a major event to go from a civilized world to a humane one. You, like me, live in a country where you have those who are open to other points of view, because they understand that no matter how smart they are there is so much they don't know. Then, there are those who have all the answers, and need not listen to those of another opinion. I won't label them, but if you notice they seem to have similar characteristics.


PM me on the friendly situation that troubles you, because being a t-girl exposes you to something that others don't see. YOU have had a major impact on this site, and if you go the many won't understand reality from fantasy. Sometimes, you're even sexy. Like it or not, you are the t-girl that the other t-girls look up to. You are the one with the balls! You will fall many more times, and get up just as often.

PM me on what troubles you, as I didn't get what the hint was. I can only guess, but without certainty.


Piece,


TAL

Tal,

It's not a big deal why I'm not really participating here much. The all to frequent mis-gendering of trans women, being described as a "fetish" (sexual attraction to objects or body parts not conventionally viewed as being sexual in nature), and the ever popular "real woman" comments.

Having to have these conversation in, you know, my day-to-day life makes having these conversations here tiring and frustrating. The fact that these comments and attitudes are nearly always confronted by myself or one of the other gals with very little support from the guys makes me wonder why I spend time here.

I initially wanted to give a non-sex working TGs perspective on relationships, sex, and living. To give humanity to the images. However, I'm not really feeling that many guys actually WANT to "get it". I used to come here and joke around, flirt, and make some corrections where folks had some facts or opinions that I thought should be clarified.

Lately, I read comments and wonder what guys honestly think about trans women. I wonder how the attitudes expressed here were shared by the folks in the link I gave above. If I'm not "real" enough, if I'm an OBJECT that has been sexualized, if I am a dirty secret - to guys who have the awareness to share their desires for trans women (even if on the Internet) - what hope is there in my world where I walk and no person knows I'm a Trans woman.

If I have to defend my right to self-identification, or my claim to be who I know I am, or to even claim status as a person who CAN be "sexual in nature". If I need to have this conversation alone (at least it feels like it) time after time in a place that should feel safe(er) what's the point?

[new believer]

Originally Posted by tslust

Hey, welcome back Bionca.


Ya, and my favorite is when the press and/or the authorities blame the victum for "deceiving" her attacker.

That's why I'm a gun packin' TV

''AWESOME'' TSLUST I really love your attitude.
I fully support handgun carry. (except of course for known felons regardless of offense.) And Ms B gives excellent reason. Despite the major media's claim of more harm than good, facts prove that a handgun carried by responsible people helps saves lives and injuries. But trying to get the facts untainted from the media needs a clear,logical and free thinking mind.
I applaude you for your level minded reasoning and sound judgement, (but I hope your carrying legally). Ditto to welcoming Ms B back.

[tslust]

Originally Posted by new believer

but I hope your carrying legally

Ya, I've got my permit. The first few times I carried it, I was very self-conscious. I'd check every few steps to make sure that it didn't show. But now, I just don't even think about it.

[aries]

Originally Posted by tslust

Ya, I've got my permit. The first few times I carried it, I was very self-conscious. I'd check every few steps to make sure that it didn't show. But now, I just don't even think about it.

I just hope that you have spent an amount of time firing your weapon, and are at ease with it.

Any licensed agency will help you.

I have carried legally concealed weapons..... normally 357 magnums..... for years.

And.........I'm just a guy!!

A.

[tslust]

Originally Posted by aries

I just hope that you have spent an amount of time firing your weapon, and are at ease with it.

Ya, I go to the range fairly often.

[Tread]

Originally Posted by Bionca

Given the small number of trans women in the world this is sobering.

I don't want to beautify anything, but:
approximately 500.000 people are murderd in a year. That make more than 4106 people all 3 days. And a study from the USA says that trans persons are in 1:200 to 1:2500 cases (in USA).
That mean in the 1:2500 case Trans people are murderd twice as often as other people, and in the 1:200 case 20 times less then other people.
And if you count CD's, that happend 1:20 to 1:50, that makes this statistic look better (if someone could say better as long as so many murder happen).

[aries]

it would be hard for me to believe that no matte what the gender is.....the murders are something of a random nature.

I don't believe that TV/TS's are being singled out more than gays. I truly believe that it has more to do with drugs and other things, than gender.

A.

[onefunkndesi]

That's all I have to say

[Amy]

And this sort of thing is why I wish this country had a death penalty...

[SweetCharmer]

Originally Posted by Amy

And this sort of thing is why I wish this country had a death penalty...

unfourtunatly that wouldn't solve anything. having a death penalty would be the worst thing for britain. we got rid of it for a reason. giving people the death penalty only perpetuates the problem because even if the one that killed a loved one or in this case a transgender people is sentanced for death 1. it wouldn't bring the victims back and 2. even when the murderer is killed you'd still hve that feeling of hate and carry around this grudge and loathing. the reason why we got rid of the death penalty in britain was because it doesn't get us anywhere.

[Bionca]

Originally Posted by aries

it would be hard for me to believe that no matte what the gender is.....the murders are something of a random nature.

I don't believe that TV/TS's are being singled out more than gays. I truly believe that it has more to do with drugs and other things, than gender.

A.

Hard to believe or not, just reading the list from the site I linked would likely show otherwise.

Samantha Brandau - Gang raped and stabbed
Angie Zapata - Beaten by her date with a fire extinguisher
Ruby Molina - found nude in a river
Kellie Telesford strangled and robbed by a date
Ali and 2 others in Iraq executed by the government for being Trans
on and on...

Recently, in Russia a man shot his pot-op fiance to death because of the apparent shame he would face by having a trans wife.

I know a number of trans women and all but one of us has been beaten and/or raped by men we were dating or in the cases of sex workers, clients. Given this sample, I'm not surprised at the findings. I wish I wasn't.

[aries]

Originally Posted by Bionca

Hard to believe or not, just reading the list from the site I linked would likely show otherwise.

Samantha Brandau - Gang raped and stabbed
Angie Zapata - Beaten by her date with a fire extinguisher
Ruby Molina - found nude in a river
Kellie Telesford strangled and robbed by a date
Ali and 2 others in Iraq executed by the government for being Trans
on and on...

Recently, in Russia a man shot his pot-op fiance to death because of the apparent shame he would face by having a trans wife.

I know a number of trans women and all but one of us has been beaten and/or raped by men we were dating or in the cases of sex workers, clients. Given this sample, I'm not surprised at the findings. I wish I wasn't.

Thanks for shedding more light on this subject Bionca. It's sad that someone of a different persuasion (and one that I'm very fond of) has to face the risks.

A.

[TheCrystalKing]

That's horrible.

Something should be done about this... but I'd have no idea where to start

be careful people .... a lot of crazies out there !

[cham]

Thanks for the link, Bionca.

Cham