Can a shemale be too beautiful?

[JonFrum]

The subject sounds like a stupid question, but I'm asking something a little different than it sounds. There are drop-dead gorgeous, totally feminine, and totally passing as genetic girls. We all have our favorites, and that's great. Having said that, when I'm looking at shemale porn, I'm turned on by a certain look. If she's too perfect, then I may as well be looking at female porn. (Yes, I know the dick makes a difference). The point is, I really like the look of a genetic guy who's taken hormones, had surgery, put on beautiful makeup, and become a shemale. I'm totallly turned on by shemales who look like shemales, so if they get so feminine that I can't tell it's a shemale without seeing the dick, I actually start to loose interest. It's weird, but I love them the way they are, and I don't need them being perfect girls.

Make any sense?

[violet lightning]

:D I think its a good thing.
To me, it shows your more interested in the PERSON , and not just a pretty IMAGE.
For me, thats a big part of the attraction..the journey, the effort, the blending. Pretty is nice, but its sure not everything.

[Jenae LaTorque]

I think than if you read very many posts here on this forum, it soon becomes obvious that what appeals to one person may not do a thing for another, and vice versa. And of course if it makes sense for you, then that is enough. While I don't see it quite your way, I am sure there are many who do. Remember the saying that was popular some years back - "I'm okay, you're okay"?? Amen

We do need to keep in mind that many t-girls are striving towards becoming all women, and thus: the more they look like a beautiful girl, the closer they are to happiness and their goal. So for me; it is the Tgirl who looks totally feminine and can easily pass.

[twistedone]

Since I'm a submissive, I can't think of anything more fun or humiliating than having "performance anxiety" around a beautiful shemale.

Just my kinky side talking.

[franalexes]

Originally Posted by twistedone

Since I'm a submissive, I can't think of anything more fun or humiliating than having "performance anxiety" around a beautiful shemale.

Just my kinky side talking.

Performance anxiety; so that's what you call it. I've had that happen to date before. I thought he got turned off by me. Now you are telling me I look too good? Which is it?

[randolph]

Originally Posted by franalexes

Performance anxiety; so that's what you call it. I've had that happen to date before. I thought he got turned off by me. Now you are telling me I look too good? Which is it?

Well, I guess there are various forms of performance anxiety. My anxiety is holding on until I get her panties off!

[suebone]

Drop dead - gorgeous , totally feminine
This is what some of us are working to become , born with the wrong tools on the outside with a different inner sole.
Wanting to be a woman.
One should be accepting of the person within,not what you see on the outside.
Life's a journey and some have a way too go.
I'm okay, you're okay. Let me (us) be me (us)

sue b
(short & sweet)

[The_Void]

I understand your point, but I prefer the feminine look.

[JonFrum]

Originally Posted by suebone

Drop dead - gorgeous , totally feminine
This is what some of us are working to become , born with the wrong tools on the outside with a different inner sole.
Wanting to be a woman.
One should be accepting of the person within,not what you see on the outside.
Life's a journey and some have a way too go.
I'm okay, you're okay. Let me (us) be me (us)

sue b
(short & sweet)

Sue

One should be accepting, but that's missing my point. Men don't post pictures of "shemales" with erections here because they respect the person within - it's all about appearance. Of course I respect and understand the difference between the interests of transgendered people in being themselves, and my interest in their appearance. I'm talking strictly about appearance. Being white, I happen to be more sexually attracted to white women than black. That doesn't mean I couldn't vote for a black woman for president - I just grew up around white girls, and now I'm hard-wired with a preference for white skin. That's not absolute, just a preference, just like a preference for redheads.

When an m2f person becomes so pretty that I can't distinguish her from a GG, then she turns me on as a women - and hot women are a dime a dozen, after all. They're not any less attractive because they're genetic boys, they're just not attractive in the "shemale" style to me any more. That doesn't prevent me from respecting their own wishes for themselves - that's another kettle of fish entirely.

There are many things that can make someone attracted to another. It is totally subjective and unique. In general, I have a pretty good idea of what I like--but that does not mean that someone who does not fit my ideal is any less beautiful. I am always uncomfortable with these sort of questions because it implies that those who don’t meet some kind of ideal standards aren’t acceptable.

Jenae is right: “I’m OK, You’re OK”--hey I’m a 70’s kid, I remember that saying! (Wasn't it a book?) The important thing is to be happy with who you are.

[johndowe]

Hi there.

NO!

JohnDowe.

[franalexes]

Originally Posted by johndowe

Hi there.

NO!

JohnDowe.

Is that a "no" to "can a shemale be too beautiful?"
or a "no" to his question," make any sence?"

[randolph]

Beauty is certainly in the eye of the beholder. As we grow older our view of beauty can change. For an old geezer, a fifty year old women can look gorgeous. For a teenager, a fifty year old women would look ancient.
Also "attractiveness" is not necessarily related to beauty. Somebody may be very attractive for intellect, skills or yes, sexuality and not be a beauty. Of course sexual skills and beauty would be a highly desirable combination.
OK lets throw intellect in there too.

[JonFrum]

Originally Posted by aw9725

I am always uncomfortable with these sort of questions because it implies that those who don't meet some kind of ideal standards aren't acceptable.

No it doesn't. Any more that someone who likes Chinese food implies that any other kind of food isn't acceptable. You're making much more of the question that I asked. I'm not the beauty police, and I didn't claim to be. Don't assume the worst of people - most of us arent' that bad.

[The Conquistador]

No, she cannot be too beautiful.

[twistedone]

Could it be that his "no" is also "No opinion?"

Originally Posted by franalexes

Is that a "no" to "can a shemale be too beautiful?"
or a "no" to his question," make any sence?"

[johndowe]

Originally Posted by franalexes

Is that a "no" to "can a shemale be too beautiful?"
or a "no" to his question," make any sence?"

Hi there.

I see the possible confusion, it was my ansewer to the "can a trans woman be too beautiful" question.


Johndowe.

[Hedonistman]

to me that's impossible,,, that said, of course we all see beauty differently, that's part of what makes the world go round. I n a sense you could say that the imperfections or less than 'perfectness' you find so appealing is your definition of beautiful,,,, Catch 22

[johndowe]

Originally Posted by twistedone

Could it be that his "no" is also "No opinion?"

Hi there.

If i had no opinion why would i post?


And not for the posts, i have enough that i can d/l all i want without seeing the limit.


JohnDowe.

Originally Posted by JonFrum

No it doesn't. Any more that someone who likes Chinese food implies that any other kind of food isn't acceptable. You're making much more of the question that I asked. I'm not the beauty police, and I didn't claim to be. Don't assume the worst of people - most of us arent' that bad.

Jon,

OK. Then I would say that I am very attracted to transwomen that appear very feminine and would be considered "passable." If you follow my posts you will see who among popular models I like in particular--to say I "have it bad" for Kelly Shore would be an understatement! Coming in a close second would be Camila Saenz and Yeidi Collins (tied). My ex-wife was very beautiful and a former cheerleader. Most people would say I was "well built" and even "good looking." I am also a successful professional (University Professor). I had put some pictures of myself in my profile and Avatar.

You look like you are new to this forum--I have been here a month or so and have really enjoyed being a member. Most here are very "open minded" and for me it has been a great place to discover more about myself and my own sexuality. I have shared quite a bit of personal information (not sure that was wise) and because of a recent incident have changed my profile to silly pictures and info. I feel bad that I had to do this because I felt I could trust others on here. I'm also disappointed because one of my original postings was not well received and the thread has since gone wildly off track--but that is another story.

More than likely going to take some time off--but I'm sure I will be back in time.

Anyway, nice to meet you...

Andy

[JonFrum]

Andy

Come back soon, buddy. It takes all kinds, and there's room for everyone here.

Jon,

Couldn't stay away. Also noticed in another thread that you don't like the "Dental" scene in Marathon Man either. That scene alone made me put it on my list of creepiest movies--"Is it Safe?"

Andy

[suebone]

Originally Posted by Hedonistman

to me that's impossible,,, that said, of course we all see beauty differently, that's part of what makes the world go round. I n a sense you could say that the imperfections or less than 'perfectness' you find so appealing is your definition of beautiful,,,, Catch 22

yes

No one is perrrrrrrrrrrrrfect.
Every one has some sort of a inperrrrrrrrfection.
Perfection is a life time job that may never get finished.
The saying ;; beauty is only skin deep ; A BIG Catch 22 HERE
sue b
(short & sweet)

Im the same as you. The T-Girl has to look like a T-Girl. Cant be too feminine

[paulmal32]

For what it's worth
This guy is all about the most feminine looking T-girls. If they carry an an athletic look I can dig that too. But nothing more.

[Katie Girl]

There's no way a Shemale can be too beautiful. I love the really attractive, feminine ones with perfect make up and hair.
Speaking as a virgin (still to lose my anal cherry) I could only lose it to someone who was really feminine and gorgeous.
Katie xx

[avrilfuck]

Beauty is always in the eye of the beholder. And each person has his idea of beauty.
Of course that a shemale could be extreme beautiful. That is good. For me, more of them are. And eve I think sometimes that certains women are so beautiful that the should be shemales.

[Hergybergy]

Beauty is subjective anyway. In your mind, you know what you find beautiful but you are conditioned by society to put an ideal beauty above all. Whatever floats your boat, I say!

Well I do agree with you. Just not the way to express your point. You could of easily said you prefer androgyny in the trans girls you find attractive.
And the reason you're getting some flack because of your post, is due to the way you phrased it. But you're new to understanding transgender people. So you get some slack from me.

For me. I never liked the so called "perfect look". Tons of makeup, plastic surgery, and what not. I like natural beauty. And yes taking hormones to become what you rightly are is natural in my opinion.
I'm also not attracted to porn stars. Unless I already know them, or they got out of the industry like Bee did.

I also really like femininity and androgyny in women (including trans girls ) and feminine guys.
Though I don't like androgyny in masculine guys. That's just a huge turn off to me.

And like you I'm totally speaking on a visual aspect.

Originally Posted by randolph

Beauty is certainly in the eye of the beholder. As we grow older our view of beauty can change. For an old geezer, a fifty year old women can look gorgeous. For a teenager, a fifty year old women would look ancient.
Also "attractiveness" is not necessarily related to beauty. Somebody may be very attractive for intellect, skills or yes, sexuality and not be a beauty. Of course sexual skills and beauty would be a highly desirable combination.
OK lets throw intellect in there too.

And totally agree with Randolph here. :D

[smc]

Originally Posted by ThirdEyeGirl

Well I do agree with you. Just not the way to express your point. You could of easily said you prefer androgyny in the trans girls you find attractive.
And the reason you're getting some flack because of your post, is due to the way you phrased it. But you're new to understanding transgender people. So you get some slack from me.

For me. I never liked the so called "perfect look". Tons of makeup, plastic surgery, and what not. I like natural beauty. And yes taking hormones to become what you rightly are is natural in my opinion.
I'm also not attracted to porn stars. Unless I already know them, or they got out of the industry like Bee did.

I also really like femininity and androgyny in women (including trans girls ) and feminine guys.
Though I don't like androgyny in masculine guys. That's just a huge turn off to me.

And like you I'm totally speaking on a visual aspect.

When I first saw that a new member had bumped this old, old thread, I shook my head and wished it hadn't happened. But then I realized that it provides another opportunity to remind people of how much the words you choose matter.

I agree with ThirdEyeGirl's statement that the "flak" comes from the very poor choice of words by the OP.

As for my own view, I have noted on several occasions in other posts that there are certain transwomen that I find particularly beautiful for a reason that is difficult for me to put into words. It is a certain "androgyny" aspect, but that does not quite capture it. Rather, it is that I can see the birth person a bit in the face. I am choosing my words carefully, because I would never say to any transwoman that "I can see what you once were," because I truly believe that what my transwomen friends ALWAYS were is what they have "transitioned" to be today.

Nevertheless, there is a handful of trans pornstars who have this "look" to which I refer, and I find them particularly beautiful.

Ah, wonderful subjectivity! As Shakespeare wrote in A Midsummer Night's Dream:

"Love looks not with the eyes, but with the mind,
And therefore is winged Cupid painted blind."

Originally Posted by smc

[COLOR="Black"]
It is a certain "androgyny" aspect, but that does not quite capture it. Rather, it is that I can see the birth person a bit in the face. I am choosing my words carefully, because I would never say to any transwoman that "I can see what you once were," because I truly believe that what my transwomen friends ALWAYS were is what they have "transitioned" to be today.

Haha... Yeah. There are a lot of us trans women that would get self conscious about a statement like that. Even as how you put it.
But I'd just go right out and say it, and have. "I can see you have masculine features in your face. But than many cisgender women have masculine features as well. And I find it just as attractive on them as I do on trans women."

[smc]

Originally Posted by ThirdEyeGirl

Haha... Yeah. There are a lot of us trans women that would get self conscious about a statement like that. Even as how you put it.
But I'd just go right out and say it, and have. "I can see you have masculine features in your face. But than many cisgender women have masculine features as well. And I find it just as attractive on them as I do on trans women."

Well, with all due respect, I think you can get away with just coming out and saying it a lot easier than can I.

Originally Posted by smc

Well, with all due respect, I think you can get away with just coming out and saying it a lot easier than can I.

Yeah, maybe.

[sosed]

I think it all depend on everyones taste and likes. I like to see beautiful genetic girl and beautiful trans girl, so I don't think tgirl could be too beautiful or too feminine. In my opinion this could say only someone who is jealous on her beauty. Also tgirl at the beginning of her transition with clear masculine traces on her face and body could be also very beautiful and feminine, because it is not all in outside looking, but also in energy inside.