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Are There Transsexuals here who have successfully married?
Are there TS here who have been married??
Or any guy married to a TS?? Share us your experience and how did you arrange for papers and necessary documents.. Hope to have response. Just curious.
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I'm not married yet but will be soon, As far as paperwork goes after SRS you are given a letter from your surgeon stating your new gender then you can get all the proper paperwork declaring your new gender, Here in the US it's a hassle but once it's all done i can legaly marry a man Jennifer
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My desire is to marry the girl of my dreams.
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Is it possible to marry as a tgirl in the Phils? Or do you wanna marry a guy outside the Phils?
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But getting married? That's complicated. Even if same sex marriage is legal in a specific state, the federal government refuses to recognize same sex marriage in the US. And some states refuse to change your gender on your birth certificate even after SRS. I'll think I might be able to forge a letter from Thailand to get my gender changed without getting SRS... That'd be nice. It's just so much paperwork. Are you really "just curious" or are you wondering about how it applies to your personal life? There are several LGBT organizations in Manila you could contact. |
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Marrige is just a legality
Why should the state or government say who can or cant be married. Dont get me wrong i want to have a Tgirlfriend and spend my life w/ her but i feel like "big brother" should butt out of our life. It should be enough that i want to share a life w/ a Tgirl that a piece of paper shouldn't hold us back. Maybe i'm wrong but Marrige is just a word for the ceremony of joining two people together.
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i have some friends that married and living together happily. i want to get married one day. marriage is a human right, not a heterosexual privilege.
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But if everybody just had their own little ceremony, gave each other rings, and just said they were married without doing a bunch of paperwork things would be a lot simpler in life anyway. |
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i don't really agree with that term.. well of course people getting married also for many reason, protections, rights and also benefit. such as divorce protection, medical, social security and so on.
so i believe in legal marriage then just declare it.. it's just my thought... fi |
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And, this question comes from a Filipino tgirl, not from a European or American tgirl. You talk about that topic as would it be an ordinary marriage between a genetic woman and man. |
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> strange but true there r transgenders who i no that r married have kids ah yes a real job r accepted by sociaty so why would u ask i guess u don,t get out a lot or u need to listen learn understand and that,s all i got to say about that.
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I was once actually proposed to by a lesbian lover. Ironically, it was my fast growing fascination for the third gender that made me turn her down.
Same gender marriage has been legal in my country for several years and there's nothing to stop a man or woman from having a transsexual woman as his or her wife. Perhaps it will happen to me one day.:D |
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That's great, I'm gonna have to remember that one.
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The biggest reason for all that paperwork is, money. You have to pay all those fees, pay to get your marriage license, and pay for the actual ceremony. Even if you are married at th courthouse, you still have to pay the judge and court for their time.
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Know you, English isn't my native language but I can read and understand what the question is. The Starter of that topic lives in the Philippines and not in Europe where homosexual marriage isn't a problem. And, we talk either about a transgendered woman who is marry with a GG. I hope now you undertstand. |
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I know it sounds simple to simply say "I should just be able to marry who I love", but as a society the ramifications of are very far reaching. Mind you, I'm not saying there shouldn't be same sex marriage or whatever, I'm just saying that even if today -- some how, some way -- someone magically waved a wand and passed same sex marriage laws in all 50 states you'd STILL see YEARS of legal debates over the things I just listed above and more, because even THEN you'd get into legal fights over "when" should certain changes and rights be legally recognized. In short, this is going to be a mess for at least another decade or more as people continually slug it out in the court system. In short, look at California. Prop 8 passed and now to challenge it, opponents will have to wait for yet another election -- at which point there's still no guarantee they'd even win. Which means ANOTHER cycle of years waiting for ANOTHER election period or MORE years of court battles. |
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The problem for the LGBT community is the same problem they've had all along -- it's over the emotional charged use of the word "marriage", which is still holds back most of Middle America from throwing their full support behind the movement. Middle America is still religious at heart, no matter what their age and no matter which way they lean politically (Left or Right). Basically, most Americans have no problem with same-sex couples, they have no problems with them getting legal rights, but the flat out truth is that they ALSO don't want same-sex couples destroying what they feel are their religious beliefs, and they absolutely don't want to see same-sex marriages impeding on their churches or their personal rights. At that point, public support drops drastically. As NEWSWEEK noted not too long ago (and this bears out the Gallup poll numbers): "Americans continue to find civil unions for gays and lesbians more palatable than full-fledged marriage. Fifty-five percent of respondents favor legally sanctioned unions or partnerships, but only 39 percent support marriage rights." Quote:
Which brings us full circle to what I posted above. As an issue, same-sex marriage is NOT about love and commitment or anything even remotely sentimental like that. Anyone arguing that is just putting up a smokescreen, trying to tug at the heart strings to make same-sex marriage seem more palatable to the general public at large. The truth is this battle is ALL about the legal rights and side benefits/perks that come from slapping the word "marriage" on, and that's what everyone is scrambling over. |
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Here is a quick list of countries, where you can find out what their marriage laws are relative to same-sex unions... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Status_...e-sex_marriage |
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that makes me thinking, what the point getting married if it's not recognize then. but they married and live together happily.. |
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But all these fundamentalists are just hateful. They don't even care about what they're supposed to believe. If you actually read the Bible you will find that gays and transsexuals are not in any way condemned by Jesus. Moses said in Leviticus that you shouldn't have gay sex, but he also said you shouldn't eat pork or do any work on Saturday or you'll burn in hell. Jesus said over and over that people shouldn't try to follow the law of Moses, though. And remember that whole part where Sodom was destroyed because they were gay? Try actually reading it. The entire city wanted to gang rape two angels that God sent, and that is why they were destroyed. Of course, the Bible is all made up, but if you're going to say you follow it you should actually read it. And the other argument that any marriage infringes on anybody else's rights is absurd. |
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So if you oppose gay marriage you should also oppose all marriage outside your faith because it all destroys the religious sanctity of marriage.
well said racquel, i agree with it. |
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Soon...
people will change and new opportunities exist, all will can live together, I look forward especially to find some tgirl for married with her. Of course I really want a good relationship with someone
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Not to rain on anyones parade...
But the issue of gay marriage is not a federal matter; it is strictly a state matter and dependent on which states would ratify such legislation and how accepting the people are.
And I quote 10th amendment: The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. Unfortunately the Constitution does not mention anything about marriage so it will be entirely left up to the residents of whatever state gay marriage is proposed in. However, I see it becoming more widely accepted sooner if it was brought before SCOTUS. In a legal view, marriage is nothing more than a binding contract between two consenting adults. If it is ruled as such, any legislation prohibiting is would be unlawful. This is one of those issues where it is a matter not of "If", but of "When".
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I am happy that Canada now allows same sex marriage. It means that I may one day be able to marry the girl of my dreams. |
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As for you ila, Lucky Bastard!
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Right, so you agree that the Defense of Marriage Act is unconstitutional?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defense_of_Marriage_Act |
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great stuff
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The same thing goes for the anti-flag desecration legislation. Even though I am a veteran and it hurts me to see weenies and hippies to burn our noble flag, it is still a right of the people to burn it. Norm Eadie says: "Patriotism gives symbols meaning. Enslaving people to symbols destroys patriotism." That is why I am against laws such as flag burning and Defense of marriage act. I am deeply saddened that such things which are blatantly illegal such as these laws go unnoticed or unchecked by most everyone. People are too comfortable in their everyday lives to actually give a shit. Legislating people's lives is a losing proposition(just look at Prohibition!) Until people start caring about their roles as American citizens, we will continue to have our rights trampled on by Govt. goons. A gay marriage ban here, a anti-flag burning law there and a weapons ban somewhere and before you know it, the public is backed into a corner wondering how shit got like this with federal agents putting them in detention for being a gay, jewish black Klan member who supports abortion. Sorry if I'm ranting but things like this really burn my ass.
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I suppose that was unfair. I just remember what it was like hanging around my grandparents in Florida with all those old time religion WWII vets when I was younger. Interesting demographic.
I don't think it's possible to have a rational conversation with a married man over 50 who doesn't drink. |
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So it simply can't work as a state by state proposition with an extreemly mobile population.
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I had been wondering what would happen if a same sex couple got married in a state that allowed it and then moved to a state that didn't allow it. Also there are countries, Canada for example, that allows same sex marriage and I had been wondering whether or not a same sex marriage would still be recognized if a same sex couple moved to the U.S. |
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If they do it for weapons, I'm sure they would do it for marriage. If it was a really big, looming issue, then it would come down to the individual states and what they decide on. But since it is not, and since more people are alot more openminded than they were, say 20 years aago, if anything, this marriage issue will be accepted by a large majority, if not all the states.
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hmmm i love to read this thread.. keep it more coming..
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I guess the problem is supply and demand - and in that regard it's bad news for trans*women. Yes, many want to have sex with trans*women, but when shit hits the fan they go back to their cis*mothers, their cis*wives, their cis*girlfriends and their cis*life.
I don't really interact much with guys like me who like girls like she, but I judge that the majority is primarily in this for quick sex (with hoodles of guilt), longer lasting sex (with less guilt) and a few gets the hang of it... I do, how ever, occasionally chat with guys who cry that it is so hard to find a trans*woman. I never GOT that point! Nothing is easier. Nothing is easier than connecting with people with whom you share a common way... I know, I'm surrounded by transsexual darlings as I live in Asia, BUT I've worked for it myself too, and I'm sure it'd be both amazing and challenging. However, I'm confident that I'd be able to do the same in the boring West if I really had to go back there - like Europe or America... I have very little intention of. Surely, the democrazy is claimed to be less ... crazy... the social services are better in Europe and the economic fascism is still considered Gospel in America... but why do you all feel so HAPPY there in the midst of such a violent part of the world? With your guns and your gangs and your hatred? Ok, I'm again getting ahead of myself... My point just was, that finding and connecting to a trans*woman is not difficult! No matter where! She's there, if YOU are, my man, whomever you are. But DO treasure her! Always! H
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sorry but your post really lost me.. is still about transexual happily marriage? or is it changed to be men worshipping transexual girls? am i deluded??? fi |
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Fiona! Are you married to Hank? Is that why your last name is also Havelock?
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what?!??? no no no... well we have a little memories in the past.. not anymore now.. people make mistake right? |
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These laws also differ from country to country. But I would guess, that if a transsexual woman undergoes what ever her country demands of physical harm to be considered a LEGAL woman and then is issued a new female identity including docs and pass port, then even countries that might have different rules for administering genders will have to oblige. We really should study this and post a listing here on this forum about the laws in different states and countries... it's complicated.
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My next point, then, would be to challenge the inhumane laws that actually demand of a transsexual woman to undergo SRS (to be both castrated and having her penis mutilated) to be recognized as a legal woman. Transsexuality happens between the ears, not between the legs. Demanding SRS is a BARBARIC torture implied on trans*woman by a basicly hetero fashistic society to whom gender is defined by genitalia. Now, if they would AT LEAST be biologically consistent and demand a full change of the cromosomes they would at least have a point. But again, this is not the right thread for this :-)
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Yes, and if she wants it removed, then it is HER choice! That "choice" should not be "made easier" by external forces... I will start a new thread on this in a little while... it's a very important matter...
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requiring srs does seem to be an arbitrary way of defining gender for the purposes of marriage. but let's not forget that america is a democracy, and if more than half of the electorate defines marriage as only between a (genetic) woman and a man, then that's that.
i take a zen-like approach to these kinds of questions...progress comes very slowly in our world... |
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Ain't nothing wrong with that! Goats are very loving...
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