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OK, labels are not everything, and many people dislike to be labelled. We are only human though, and 'labelling' does seem to be part of how we are.
We all have different ideas about different things, so, what is your 'definition' of the people catagories in the thread title?
Here are mine :

CD - aka 'hairy panty wanker', a guy that gets off, sexually, from dressing in female attire, predominantly lingerie, often 'borrowed' from his female partner and to whom, personal appearance is secondary and with limited desires to look and/or feel feminine.

Transvestite - A CD with make up who's 'dressing' is not always sexually orientated. I feel that transvestites are the most competitive of these 'flexible gender' types and their need to look and feel feminine is very important. I also find that transvestites are the most level headed of the group, the most sociable, and all have the ability to laugh at themselves. Fun is important to a transvestite.

Ladyboy - an asian transsexual, plain and simple.

Shemale - A transsexual 'in it for the money' whether that be via prostitution, modelling, or the porn movie industry.

TS - aka transsexual, a full time, m2f or f2m, that wishes to change gender or already has changed gender because they feel that they were born with the wrong physical attributes and wish to be the person they truly believe they are, often clinicaly diagnosed as such, and actively seeking medical help to achieve personal well being and stabilty, and I believe that sex is low on their list of priorities.


Well that's my little list, and I'll end by saying that each and everyone of these 'catagories' contribute in a positive way, to the diversity that makes us human, and all deserve to be on this planet. The above views are only my personal view of how I see things.
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OK, labels are not everything, and many people dislike to be labelled. We are only human though, and 'labelling' does seem to be part of how we are.
We all have different ideas about different things, so, what is your 'definition' of the people catagories in the thread title?
Here are mine :

CD - aka 'hairy panty wanker', a guy that gets off, sexually, from dressing in female attire, predominantly lingerie, often 'borrowed' from his female partner and to whom, personal appearance is secondary and with limited desires to look and/or feel feminine.

Transvestite - A CD with make up who's 'dressing' is not always sexually orientated. I feel that transvestites are the most competitive of these 'flexible gender' types and their need to look and feel feminine is very important. I also find that transvestites are the most level headed of the group, the most sociable, and all have the ability to laugh at themselves. Fun is important to a transvestite.

Ladyboy - an asian transsexual, plain and simple.

Shemale - A transsexual 'in it for the money' whether that be via prostitution, modelling, or the porn movie industry.

TS - aka transsexual, a full time, m2f or f2m, that wishes to change gender or already has changed gender because they feel that they were born with the wrong physical attributes and wish to be the person they truly believe they are, often clinicaly diagnosed as such, and actively seeking medical help to achieve personal well being and stabilty, and I believe that sex is low on their list of priorities.


Well that's my little list, and I'll end by saying that each and everyone of these 'catagories' contribute in a positive way, to the diversity that makes us human, and all deserve to be on this planet. The above views are only my personal view of how I see things.
Care to share yours?
There are so many posts here regarding this particular issue. I disagree to your labelling - it's much more neutral than that.

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What is your motivation for starting yet another thread on labels? Most of the similar threads are started by people who, it seems, are fretting about being "gay" and are looking for some way around a label. But your thread really seems pointless. I don't mean that in an offensive way, but rather as a way to ask, with respect: What is your point? Why do the labels matter?
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What is your motivation for starting yet another thread on labels? Most of the similar threads are started by people who, it seems, are fretting about being "gay" and are looking for some way around a label. But your thread really seems pointless. I don't mean that in an offensive way, but rather as a way to ask, with respect: What is your point? Why do the labels matter?
My motivation is purely to see diversity of opinions. It has nothing to do with mine or anybody elses sexual directions or insecurities. This is 2009 not 1909, and anybodies sexual orientation is, in my opinion, very much a miniscule part of an individual, as a person.
Why do labels matter? Answer - to me, they don't, but as human beings generaly, an 'identity' is important, and people like to feel part of a group, whether it be following a football team, following a fashion trend ( ie chavs, punks, goths ) or being green. Love 'em or loathe 'em, labels are part of being human and the world would be a pretty funny place without them. Take this forum for example, would a forum called 'people_with_boobs_and_a_penis' carry as many members,contributors, and variety of topics?

As far as 'fretting about being gay' goes everybody and everybody knows and accepts that the ' I like trannies thing' is used by guys as a get out clause for their deep rooted homophobic inhibitions. that situation has been around since the year dot, it won't go away, and is, I feel just something that guys have to deal with. it's no big deal, and is in no way wierd, shameful, or reflective on the wholesomeness of that person.

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OK, labels are not everything, and many people dislike to be labelled. We are only human though, and 'labelling' does seem to be part of how we are.
We all have different ideas about different things, so, what is your 'definition' of the people catagories in the thread title?
Here are mine :

CD - aka 'hairy panty wanker', a guy that gets off, sexually, from dressing in female attire, predominantly lingerie, often 'borrowed' from his female partner and to whom, personal appearance is secondary and with limited desires to look and/or feel feminine.

Transvestite - A CD with make up who's 'dressing' is not always sexually orientated. I feel that transvestites are the most competitive of these 'flexible gender' types and their need to look and feel feminine is very important. I also find that transvestites are the most level headed of the group, the most sociable, and all have the ability to laugh at themselves. Fun is important to a transvestite.

Ladyboy - an asian transsexual, plain and simple.

Shemale - A transsexual 'in it for the money' whether that be via prostitution, modelling, or the porn movie industry.

TS - aka transsexual, a full time, m2f or f2m, that wishes to change gender or already has changed gender because they feel that they were born with the wrong physical attributes and wish to be the person they truly believe they are, often clinicaly diagnosed as such, and actively seeking medical help to achieve personal well being and stabilty, and I believe that sex is low on their list of priorities.
This may actually have a bit to do with culture, because I know some others from the UK who have made the same essential classifications. For me :

CD - Is generally a guy who fancies women's clothes. It's more of a release for an "inner woman". This could be full on wig to pumps or just specific articles that give him a thrill or a sense of calm. Generally CDs tend to go really super femmy in their clothes (tight skirts, lace, stockings).

TV - It's all about the sex. They get a sexual thrill from women's clothes. Particularly intimate wear. They sometimes have a fantasy where they are forged into feminization and then forced into sexual situations.

LadyBoy - Western sex industry term for an Asian trans* woman.

Shemale - Porn word for non-Asian Trans* woman. Lately some pre- or non- op gals have adopted this word without being in the sex industry.

TS/TG Your definition isn't bad, but I think there is emphasis on surgeries that isn't true for lots of gals beyond having their ID cards and whatnot match up.

Except for TVs sex isn't a compelling reason for any of the others to do what we do. The LBs and Shemales DO sex, but in many cases it's because it's good money and it's REALLY damn hard to get proper work. Lots of gals to sex work to pay for surgeries/ survive until after surgeries and then blend into real life.
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Thanks for replying to the thread Bionca. It's cool to see diversity of opinions and very informative when you see geographically diverse opinions also.
Here in the UK, a transsexual person will be very insulted to be called a 'shemale' maybe not so in other cultures.
We have another tongue in cheek and amusing 'label' closely linked with this topic and that is 'Fag-Hag' ie a woman that has a liking for trannies. Dunno if that expression gets used elsewhere in the world or not.
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Well, most trans* women in the US are not overly fond of the word "Shemale" - there is aot of baggage associated with the word. However, much like the GLBTs in the 90's reclaimed "Queer", some trans* folks have decided to adopt Shemale as an identity. I have some issues with this.. but what do I know...

Fag-Hag is pretty much a term given to hetero women who hang out with gay guys (also called Fruit-Fly or Queen Bee). As far as I know the term isn't really used so much among Trans* in the US.
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Of course if you're in the Philippines and you want that LadyBoy, you might want to ask about "bayot".
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I think you summed it up pretty well
CD somene who enjoys dressing up
TV See above but maybee fulltime.
TS someone wishing to and in the process of transformation M2F or F2M. with the desire to go all the way through.
Shemale. Someone only interested in going far enough to give an outward apperance of being female while endevoring to keep a fully functional penis. For whatever reason. (my favorite)

Shemale is a term not liked by some due (i think) to the percieved link with prostitution or porn. This should not be the case IMO GGs are in porn and they are not stigmatised for what they are.
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