Penis Vs. Vagina

[JodieTs]

T-girls offer it all and more. they give and receive. I just love the beauty of the shemale. But the cock is what it is all about. Beauty with a cock!! Shemales just put real girls to shame. Pussy is overrated.

I see this type of crap over this forum all the time.
And you lot wonder why we never date you
Why we ALWAYS have our guard up
Why we don't look upon you as relationship material
Why you will NEVER meet our really hot pre-op ts girlfriends
Why you are all quite frankly wasting your time bitchin' about how Ts's are so aloof and cold and dismissive of you all.
And why you are better off wanking off over Early-transition pre-op transsexual female porn.
[You lot do know that after a while on hormones, our penis's shrink, most of us no longer get erect and NONE OF US AT ALL EJACULATE]

It's because you despise the very thing we aspire to;
the anatomy to which we will spend {to most of us} a fortune to obtain.
Coz you obsess the very thing about our body which
we at best are indifferent to
and at worse, despise.

And we know how our bodies are changing
and how that which you lust over will shrink, stop functioning
and eventually be altered into the very thing so many of you dislike.
Is it any wonder we don't even want to talk with you, much less date.

Your statements of penis love and vagina hate
fill us with fear and make us despise our circus-freak bodies all the more.
Do you really think your words help, do you really think we want to hear these tirades?

You offer us the dubious opportunity
to satisfy your current pre-pubescent-male curiosity of a woman with a penis. (it is seriously far more complicated than that)
and nothing of a future where our penis is no more.

For fucks sake, grow up.


As you were...

[smc]

It's one thing to have a sexual attraction that is played out in porn fantasies. It's another thing altogether to be supportive, understanding, empowering, and to love someone for who she is, not what hangs between her legs and may not be there forever.

I'm with you, Jodie.

[Fantasex 76]

Give me the pussy please.

No. Pussy is not ?overrated.? Nor is oral or anal sex. It?s all good. Are you attracted to a beautiful individual? A living, breathing, thinking, feeling, human being? Are you capable of loving that person? Or as smc says do you simply ?have a sexual attraction that is played out in porn fantasies??

To Jodie, thanks for speaking up.

[shadows]

I like women, period. There are many things that attract me to them. Their smiles, their hobbies(women that play boardgames and video games are a plus!), their beautiful eyes, pretty much everything and anything.

They are also far more than just the genitalia that they were born with, and to not treat them like that shows immense disrespect to them. Would you like to be thought of as nothing but a piece of meat and not a thinking, feeling human being? I wouldn't think that you would, and I would hope that people at this forum(hell, the entire world!) would remember that and act accordingly.

When I fall in love with a woman, I am in love with her, body and soul.

[wxhluyp]

The question of genitalia... It seems that there is an unresolved (and unresolvable) difference in what the users generally get of this forum. Participation requires an acceptance that the site aims to cater for both sides.

[smc]

Originally Posted by wxhluyp

The question of genitalia... It seems that there is an unresolved (and unresolvable) difference in what the users generally get of this forum. Participation requires an acceptance that the site aims to cater for both sides.

What in the world is this supposed to mean?

[randolph]

Originally Posted by wxhluyp

The question of genitalia... It seems that there is an unresolved (and unresolvable) difference in what the users generally get of this forum. Participation requires an acceptance that the site aims to cater for both sides.

I suspect you mean the two aspects of the forum. The porn side that presents transsexuals as super sexed shemales with hard cocks and the reality side where transsexuals are presented as real persons who want to be loved as women. Both sides deserve respect because they both involve human beings making their way through life.

[cannibal]

Originally Posted by wxhluyp

... to cater for both sides.

I'm starting to think that he who accomplishes that will win the nobel peace prize.

[transjen]

Hey you guys i just want you all to know that us girls with vagina's aren't bad and once you get to know us you may like us
Jerseygirl Jen

[smc]

Originally Posted by transjen

Hey you guys i just want you all to know that us girls with vagina's aren't bad and once you get to know us you may like us
Jerseygirl Jen

I am so very glad you've posted this, Jen. I couldn't agree more.

[transjen]

Originally Posted by smc

I am so very glad you've posted this, Jen. I couldn't agree more.

Well i am a PVO [proud vagina owner] after all

Jerseygirl Jen

[smc]

Originally Posted by transjen

Well i am a PVO [proud vagina owner] after all

Jerseygirl Jen

Indeed. When's your rebirthday again? Did I miss sending an e-card this year?

[transjen]

Originally Posted by smc

Indeed. When's your rebirthday again? Did I miss sending an e-card this year?

1/7/09 was my rebirthday so i turned two this year

Jerseygirl Jen

[smc]

Originally Posted by transjen

1/7/09 was my rebirthday so i turned two this year

Jerseygirl Jen

Congratulations. I should have written down that date. Please consider the 2010 "card" (in the form of a PM; I believe it had a rebirthday cake!) to be one of those new-fangled two-year deals.

[shadows]

Originally Posted by transjen

Hey you guys i just want you all to know that us girls with vagina's aren't bad and once you get to know us you may like us
Jerseygirl Jen

Jennifer, I've always liked you.

[transjen]

Originally Posted by shadows

Jennifer, I've always liked you.

ahh shucks

Jerseygirl Jen

[Enoch Root]

This thread makes me feel guilty about my attraction to transwomen.

[shadows]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

This thread makes me feel guilty about my attraction to transwomen.

It doesn't make me feel guilty, as I don't share the view of the post that Jodie quoted from. From what I have read of your posts(although I haven't read all of them), I don't think that you should feel guilty either.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by shadows

It doesn't make me feel guilty, as I don't share the view of the post that Jodie quoted from. From what I have read of your posts(although I haven't read all of them), I don't think that you should feel guilty either.

My fear lies in that by explicitly being attracted to transwomen and being aware of this, I am therefore objectifying transwomen. I am, of course, attracted to women with penises and it is this body part which many transwomen are uncomfortable with.

[JodieTs]

TBH, it's no different to being "into"blonds, big tits long legs
or the myriad of stuff we are into
in terms of sexual attraction.
Don't beat yourself up, I'm sexually attracted to trans women as well.

I only have an issue with people wanting a full blown relationship with trans women because they are trans women
rather than:
Being sexually attracted to say pre-op ts women. Dating some of us. Then if you are both into each other as people where the sex attraction is just a part of it all, forming a more meaningful relationship.

Which involves making tea.
My man is in his kitchen making my 3rd cup, at my request.
Mind you, I do the same for him, at my place.

Oh I'm naked waist down, but my pert breasts poking through my top.
Yet he has just put the mug of tea down for my while smiling at my face and stroking my foot. All normal stuff.

[transjen]

Face it some guys are scum and are users and see us as a sexual plaything something differnt a new sexual turn on

I had my heart broken from a scum like that cause that is what he saw me as and when the thill was gone so was he
Jerseygirl Jen

[Enoch Root]

Well it's nice to know I am not repellent to some of you gals Jodie. SMC said the same off forum when he told me we all objectify that which we are sexually attracted to, the issue being how great is the objectification and how you deal with it. It's also nice to be explicitly aware that some of you gals like others like yourself.

Fact of the matter is I like transwomen and I've no desire to harm them but I feel as if such attraction is a deal breaker. I have long felt that this attraction is as you said not much different from being into blondes--brunettes and ravenhaired in my case--with "big tits" and curvy all over but I never figured I would read a transwoman's post saying much the same. Because while I feel they are much the same the issue is nevertheless much much bigger. It's easy to cut your hair or dye, etc etc.

[shadows]

Originally Posted by transjen

Face it some guys are scum and are users and see us as a sexual plaything something differnt a new sexual turn on

I had my heart broken from a scum like that cause that is what he saw me as and when the thill was gone so was he
Jerseygirl Jen

And you are better off without him. You deserve someone better and I hope you find him.

[barbados37]

Originally Posted by transjen

Face it some guys are scum and are users and see us as a sexual plaything something differnt a new sexual turn on

I had my heart broken from a scum like that cause that is what he saw me as and when the thill was gone so was he
Jerseygirl Jen

Just as men shouldn't judge all women to be sexual playthings, all of us aren't really that bad out here. I come here to have a good time and loosen up in a respectable manner, because of the nature of the forum, but I never intend to belittle anyone's humanity.

[kkq]

This is a issue I am dealing with now. My girl hates her penis. She tucks it away from me an even when showering, it just disappears. The hormone treatment has slowed her down and things are good with us. She has a cock that well, puts me well to shame but I see her in the mirror tucking it away an she has cried on my shoulder saying she hates what her penis has done to her.

So, I see her as a person an I hope in time, I can help her deal with her demons. Her having a cock or her wanting to be a full post op in the future does not worry me. Person first before cock or pussy...

[JodieTs]

You sound like my man.