Postings vs Pictures...

[johndowe]

Hi there.

I Joinned the forum mostly to download pics, but you have to post to D/L more Pics, which i find kinda user hostile, if you have a lot of pics to share its ok, but if you don't well...

Now, if i have to post to get more pics, you kinda force us all to post just for the sake of posting, irregardless of the quality of the post, that beeing "said" what is the ratio, as it were, for posts / pic download, and i would also request to scrap that rule and male it free to download.

I post when i have something to say, or contribute, isn't there enough people that speek when they have nothing to say and end up saying stupid shit?

If you agree, or disagree then post, as long as it's not just to post.

And if you agree that this should be removed then let the moderators/asmins know.

Thanks in advance, JohnDowe.

[Jenae LaTorque]

Cool, mon! That is some righteous shit!

[Jenae LaTorque]

Seriously, I think the folks that started this forum have had some experiance with forums before and they know there are many more takers than givers in this old world. So......they set up the rules here so that there would be a balance between input and output.

You say you joined mostly in order to download pics. So you are a taker mostly then? It won't hurt you to give a few word of appreciation to the giver, as is only fair. Did your mommy not teach you to say thank you? Are you not somewhat disapointed when you go out of your way to do something for another and it is not even acknowledged? I know I appreciate compliments on my postings and especially on the threads I started. And I do agree with you that some of the posts are not of any interest whatsoever and obviously are just there to inflate the post count.

However, judging from the post you used to start this thread, I believe you have things to say which are worthwhile. Please check out the chat and discussion sections. I am sure you will find something there you will wish to respond to. You have only been here a very short time. "new guy"

Give the forum a fair trial or are you one of those whose only concern is what they want and they want it right now! ??????

[michael39]

It's all about community. Giving and taking. Post and enjoy. There will be plenty of time for downloading in the future.

[ladyboyadmirer]

Originally Posted by Jenae LaTorque

Seriously,

That is an intelligent, thoughtful answer Jenae. In fact, one of the best I've ever read. Thanks for putting in words, what the majority are probably thinking. Regards LBA

[violet lightning]

I agree with Jenae wholeheartedly.
By the way, new guy johndowe joined the same time as me, and he has 5 posts? Dosn't sound like he's very interested in anything except downloading pics.
You get out what you put in, so please contribute...
(and you can contribute without posting pics)

[tslust]

Originally Posted by violet lightning

You get out what you put in, so please contribute...

I couldn't have put it any better.

[johndowe]

Hi there!

First, Jenae i am Canadian,my mommie not only tought me to say thank you, but also to say please when asking for someting.

Second, you have to have before you can give, and i usually give freely, and it is nice to be thanked, but i don't give just to be thanked.

And you're right there are more takers than givers, but in the computer world you can copy things infinitely, so who cares?

Also, what ever you do in this world affects you deirectly, when you do good things you feel good, and when you do bad things you feel bad, and proportionally to the "size" of the action, so if someone does some bad things you tell them, but it's not your oranybody's job to stop them if it's very minor stuff.

Anyway, some threads have hundreds of pics and i'd like to D/L but why does it have to take 10 days to D/L 100 pics?

It's totally ridiculous to me, if the kimit was 50 or 100 to start it would make a but more sence, a bit, but then again why am i paying $50 a month for hi-speed internet instead of $20 for modem access, if i still have to wait to D/L?

Because of this limit i feel forced to post weather i want to or not, i joinned a gamer board and i ansewered many questions other gamers had, helped them with their problems, afterwards i went back not to see if i got thanked but to see if my post helped.

Have a good day.

Johndowe.

[Jenae LaTorque]

From the tone of your post there, I would like to recomend that you pick up a copy of John Ringer's book Looking Out For #1.

Don't let the title fool you. It is a great book and worth way more than the purchase price. A somewhat relevant example from the book for here would where he discusses the three types of individuals you will encounter in a business deal.

1. The person who says that he is out to help you in the deal, but all the time he is looking to screw you for everything he can get. This one is lying to you.

2. The person who says that he is out to help you in the deal, but will end up trying to screw you anyway. This one is lying to himself and thus he is lying to you.

3. The person who freely admits he out to do as well as possible in the deal. This is the rational person, and much more importantly, the honest person.

So which person do you do business with????

The answer is all three. Business is business. The important thing here is to recognize the type of individual you are dealing with and adjust your plans accordingly.

I hope you read this and said, "Well of course, that is so obviously true." That would show that you are a rational person and realize fully that there is really no such thing as a honestly free lunch.

The site management is no differant from anybody else; they are looking to get something from you in return for providing this forum. What do they get from you? Besides the obvious fact that the subject here is of interest to them personally and they enjoy the interaction with people; there is the fact that to maintain a site does cost a certain amount of money. To that end they have advertisers. And advertisers don't just put their money here because they like the guy, or the concept, or the wind is blowing north. They allocate their money based on numbers**. Numbers which are an indicator of possible returns to them. Numbers like site visits, where they went from here, how many posts they made, etc ....in general. how much quality time are the site visitors spending here. (Your post count isn't doing much for the numbers.)

The fact of the matter is that if all you want is pictures; there are an immense amount of SheMale sites out there and a jillion of them are "free" sites in the sense that you can download pictures and video clips without paying a fee. I know! I have over half a million pics from them.

Yes, I came to this site originally for the pics also. And when I first ran into the download limit, I too was disappointed. But, I did what I had to do. I uploaded some stuff and made some posts. I like to think I am a rational person (there are some here who might disagree, ) and I have learned to never expect a free lunch.

In the final analysis, it pretty much always comes down to: IS IT WORTH IT? It applies to the site owner just as much as it applies to you. Is it worth it to you to follow the guidelines set down. I can pretty much guarantee you that they will not change policy just because you, or a hundred like you, bitch about it. Not if they want to keep the site running, they won't.


** I am sure you are familiar with the search engine GOOGLE. While you have never paid Google a cent directly; you use of it does put money in their pocket. Google searches per day reached 293 million a few months ago. Now - - - think about what that means to advertisers. 293 million hits/day over 2 billion hits a week, and a hundred billion in a year. Now there we are talking about some pretty big numbers, and as a result -- BIG, BIG, BIG MONEY!! Numbers matter!!

[ila]

Originally Posted by bi0mech81

My only real gripe is the attachment system for posting pictures. 15 limit I can understand, but let me upload all 15 at once rather than doing them in groups of 3 to save myself time hunting through directories.

Explain please.

It is possible to upload 15 pictures in the same post. You can only upload 3 at a time, but you don't have to close the upload window after each 3. When your 3 pictures upload then select the next 3. You will still be in the same directory as where you uploaded your previous picture from.

[jhonnyb]

U know i said this in my welcome meg reply as well... as people keep on posting stupid stuff just to get more download points....

well the download should be completely free...

In no matter whatever the case might be who ever has got quality stuff would post it... you cannot force some one to post or not...

Its kind a unfair

In my opinion downloading of pics should be completely free...

[Christine]

Originally Posted by jhonnyb

U know i said this in my welcome meg reply as well... as people keep on posting stupid stuff just to get more download points....

well the download should be completely free...

In no matter whatever the case might be who ever has got quality stuff would post it... you cannot force some one to post or not...

Its kind a unfair

In my opinion downloading of pics should be completely free...

it would be nice if all pictures was free and everyone could download whatever they want in the amounts they want, but that takes up bandwidth and thus increases the cost of maintain this site.

Who should pay for all this bandwidth if you dont want to, even though you would use most of this bandwidth by downloading lots of pictures?

I do not know anything about the costs related to this site but I can only imagine that it is high costs because of the pictures, not because of the forum activity.

I joined this forum months ago and have not been very active in posting, but I do post when I see something I have an opinion about or feel that I can add something to a thread. I also enjoy the pictures but I do not complain about the restrictions because I know why they are there and understand the reasons.

[johndowe]

Hi there.

Again it seems it comes down to you and me Jenae, everybody is giving their opinion and not passing jugement, exept you it seems, i go with the moto that quality is better than quantity in most cases anyway, i'd rather post when i feel i have something to contribute, rather than just bullshit and antagonize others because they have different beliefs or convictions, because i don't l like it when i get antagonizes or lied to.

That being said, every time i heard someone say "business is business" it was always to JUSTIFY a DISPICABLE act they comitted, as an example:

Two guys are in competing businesses, M. A has lots of money and little scrupules, the other M. B is an honest business man that offers a good product at a resonable price, M. A undercuts him and puts him out of business just so that he could increase his prices to screw everybody out of more money for his product.

Then M. A sais to M. B: Why are you mad? BUSINESS IS BUSINESS.

Who is right?

Well, what if it was Mr B that would have put M. A out of business, M. A probably would shoot M. B, because you can't discociate yourself from your actions or your reactions you are not 2 people but only one person, and anybody on the recieving end of "BUSINES IS BUSINESS" will corectfully take it personally, because it is personnal, IT IS THEIR LIVELYHOOD, anybody that disagrees with that has never been on the recieving end of it, or are complete ASSHOLES.

And you are probably right about the 3 tybes of people in business, but there is a fourth kind that you'll probably never see in business, the "nice guy" that would say that he'll give a good deal and mean it, but this guy would not make it in this fucked up dog eat dog business world, where everybody wants to be a TRILLIONNAIRE (10 to the 12 power, not a billion but a toughsand billions), irregardless of the consequences, to others AND themselves, and like i said in my previous post, when you do something good you feel good, and when you do something bad you feel bad, but it goes deeper than that, when you do something bad it hurts and wounds your soul, remember what "Jacob Markey" said to Ebenizer Scrooge? not about the 3 spirirs that were to be visiting him but the chains that he had "forged" in his life and the one Scrooge was still hard at work forging?

Hey, i was just voicing my annoyance with the limit, i didn't want to go into an heavy phylosophical discussion ethics and business.

And the internet was originally designed by hobbyists and was designed for the FREE exchange of information, not for businesses to monopolize, but it was inevitable, now the internet is all about money, money and money, and very little usefull and benificial content, now that's sad.

And about the bandwith thing, more people visiting the site = more advertizing revenue, when done properly, but there is a balance between content and advertizing; there should be much more content than advertizing, TV is a good example, even though there is a bit too much advertising, same of it very unethical, but nobody does anything about it and nothing changes.

Oh yeah, it sais this thread has been moved, WHERE?

JohnDowe

[johndowe]

Hi there Again.

Another thing, life ISN'T about money, live is about what you take with you after you die.

What is it you take with you after you die? Your memories your actions your good and bad deeds, and you will be juged by those things and you will be juged by the hardest judge, your "TRUE" self your SOUL the one that is hurt by bad deeds and helped by good deeds.

It may sound corny but it is true.

JohnDowe.

[Jenae LaTorque]

Originally Posted by johndowe

Hi there Again.

Another thing, life ISN'T about money, live is about what you take with you after you die.

What is it you take with you after you die? Your memories your actions your good and bad deeds, and you will be juged by those things and you will be juged by the hardest judge, your "TRUE" self your SOUL the one that is hurt by bad deeds and helped by good deeds.

It may sound corny but it is true.

JohnDowe.

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LOL I should have known! From your poor spelling, awful syntax and illogical arguments I should have known you were a religious type that believes in "pie in the sky," Karma, Heaven, or something like that, which assumes post life existance and rewards in the hereafter. That little bit of societal control has worked well since the dawn of man's existence.
That is all fine and dandy if it works for you. But, like Robert Heinlein said, "
"One man's theology is another man's belly laugh."

You seem to be suffering from multitudes of misconceptions. Let's start with your misconception of how the internet was started. It most certainly was not designed by "hobbyists". You could say it was started by scientists, working in conjunction with the military, to create a computer interlink system that could hopefully survive nuclear attack and would allow for the propagation of information. That is just one theory. There are many other valid theories, and the real truth is probably a conglomeration of several theories. I suspect that you saw that show called "Revenge of the Nerds" and took it at face value as the truth. Nope, it was just their version. Check the topic out for yourself.

"Go forth young man and google"

Next misconception - You say that you feel forced to contribute in order to download. Geez, you may as well say you feel forced to pay in order to enter a movie theater. After all your seeing the movie did not use it up, they still have the film, don't they? Oh, I say - they provided the nice chair you sat in, the heating or air conditioning that made you comfortable, not to mention the equipment and energy to make the whole thing possible. Think of this site in those terms.

Next misconception - the fourth type you mentioned. I think you need to broaden your concept of what is value. I would say that the fourth guy falls into one of the three categories. It is irrelevant that he isn't after money in the deal. Money has little to do with it; each person is looking to gain what is of value to himself. It may be money..... it may be social prestige........it may be feelings of self worth......it may be to ease his conscience.......the list is endless. The point is that he is still looking to get something from the deal regardless of his motivations. So.....your fourth guy is after something also. He feels that the goodwill of his customer is of paramount importance and that is what he values. That is fine. That is what can make a success of a business - the goodwill of the customers. Don't have the idea that the big boys of business don't understand "goodwill." It is one of the many things they consider in their business decisions. Likewise, your fourth guy has considered all this and has decided that playing the game "fairly" is in his own best interest. Perhaps, for his conscience. Perhaps for the benefit of establishing a larger customer base. Perhaps because he feels that it will reflect favorably when they open "the Book of Judgement." Hell, who knows. Maybe he is just giving you a good deal until your vigilence is relaxed, and then he is going in for the kill. Many "confidence games" use that same scenario. I really, really suggest you read the book. I guarantee that if you understand the concepts Robert R. explains, it will benefit you greatly in how you see the world. I think you won't read the book because if you do have an "enquiring mind", it is pretty much limited to TV and the National Enquirer.
Speaking of reading books; have you really read "The Holy Bible" of the christians? There are a great many nuggets of wisdom to be found among the other rocks there. Likewise, the Koran, The Teachings of the Compassionate Buddha, etc.

Damn, I guess I could go on for quite a while about your misconceptions and silly statements. My aim here is not to belittle you, but rather to motivate you to present your arguments in a concise logical manner.

"the internet.....very little useful content."
There is an immense treasure of knowledge on the internet. Maybe you need to get off the porn sites and check out the other content

"when you do bad things you feel bad"
Do I feel bad when I do bad things? I am assuming that you are stating this as a truism about people in general and it is not directed as a truth about myself. Hmmmm...... this is another topic John R. addresses in his book. What is bad? We all draw lines in our behavior about what is good and bad. This is good behavior...this is good....this is bad.....this is very bad!... this is absolutely depraved! etc.... The line is determined by the many things that shape our beliefs. Some things are above the line, some are below. The important thing here is that everybody draws their lines in differant positions. I am sure you would find a great difference between the lines of St. Francis and those of Vlad the Impaler (Dracula). You have to keep in mind that just because someone does something you consider as "bad" - in their mind it may very well be considered a good thing and thus they don't feel bad at all.

and.......... I grow weary. So just to keep it simple.

The site owners make the rules.
Like it or lump it!

[Jenae LaTorque]

Originally Posted by johndowe

Hi there Again.

It may sound corny but it is true.

JohnDowe.

LOL Yup, you did phrase it corny, but is it true? Prove it!

[Cocks with beauty]

Sorry Guys, I just don't see this as a simple Black or White issue with or without insults and put-downs. From my perspective I joined the forum because I wanted to be part of a group of folks whose interest was centred on sex and transgenderism. I was not primarily seeking to grab salacious material, although I hoped it would be available and would be a bonus. Nor did I expect a forum where only serious medical discussions on transgenderism took place. As in any Community I have found that it has rules and very reasonable ones in the circumstances. I also found that I had to curb my hunger for downloading visual material until I had become more a part of the ' community '. Here it seems we have someone who does not want to become communal in any sense, but wants to take from the shops without any form of payment. OK so, as Jenae pointed out so forcibly, he can get what he wants ( probably with a lot more surfing ) out there from sites which are not communities and which have no particular rules, and there's nothing stopping him from total self-indulgence.

I'm enjoying my occasional vivits to this forum. I'm taking my time ( Oh yes, and with my very first post I got a bollocking from Zeus - but so what ? There's more to be gained by staying the course ! ) So I'm learning the ropes, learning who the fiery contributors are, learning who are the most knowledgeable on the subject of Tranny identification and Transgenderism.

I say there's a lot to this forum, and I intend to hang around.

to all

[Jenae LaTorque]

Originally Posted by Cocks with beauty

I say there's a lot to this forum, and I intend to hang around.

to all

Amen! I for one have had enough of this whiner. I have little regard for those who only complain and do nothing to help themselves. As Violet pointed out, this fellow has very few posts and a lot fewer if you don't count his complaints. I think his gripe has been answered in a satisfactory manner. So enough of beating a dead horse and adios to this thread.

[johndowe]

Hi there.

I am not the religious type, but there is such a thing as carma and what i was refering to was spiritualsm big difference.

The internet comes from the old hobbyists' bulletin boards then the army copied and tried to make it in their image, and then it got comertialized and there it is now, but it DID start with hobbyists.

Why do have to take everything so personnal?

I wasn't attacking you or anybody, i was trying to know if people agreed or disagreed with the limit and what was the ratio of posts to pic downloads which i still don't know, so could someone please tell me, even though i now have a pretty good idea, but i still would like to see if i was right.

JohnDowe

[tslust]

Originally Posted by johndowe

I Joinned the forum mostly to download pics, but you have to post to D/L more Pics, which i find kinda user hostile, if you have a lot of pics to share its ok, but if you don't well...I post when i have something to say, or contribute, isn't there enough people that speek when they have nothing to say and end up saying stupid shit?

If you only want to download pics, you should just use google. With all the topics in General Discussion and Shemale Chat (or even comment on the pic threads), I'm sure you could find something to share your opinion on. Not to be rude; if you don't like it here, you can always leave.

[johndowe]

Hi there.

I just didn't like the limit and wanted to try and to see how everyone (that would post) felt about it and to try to hopefully get it lifted, eventually.

And to know the math of it was like, i kinda figure it's 5 + nb of posts, but i'd like to get the right info just to be sure.

I never said that i didn't want to post, i did say that i didn't like to force to post.

JohnDowe.

[violet lightning]

If people would just quit bitching and enjoy the site , download a little every day, and contribute in an honest way, (however much or little), you would be suprised at how quickly your limits go up and the restrictions come down.
But lots of people never get past that, and I think thats exactly why they are there in the first place. To weed out people who just complain or don't care to be patient or understand or respect the rules.
I do understand your point, but if you feel so strongly about it, set up your own site and give away as much as you want to everyone.

[johndowe]

Hi there.

I'm almost sorry i started this thread, i was just voicing my anoyance.

Why?

Because i don't like to have to jump through hoops to get what is offered as free, do you?

I did and do post, but i have to repeat this over and over; IDON'T LIKE TO BE FORCED TO POST JUST TO INCREASE MY D/L ALLOWANCE.

AND i wanted to know what was the proportion of posts to download ratio WHICH I STILL DON'T KNOW.

JohnDowe

[Creedence]

Originally Posted by johndowe

Hi there.

I Joinned the forum mostly to download pics, but you have to post to D/L more Pics, which i find kinda user hostile, if you have a lot of pics to share its ok, but if you don't well...

Now, if i have to post to get more pics, you kinda force us all to post just for the sake of posting, irregardless of the quality of the post, that beeing "said" what is the ratio, as it were, for posts / pic download, and i would also request to scrap that rule and male it free to download.

I post when i have something to say, or contribute, isn't there enough people that speek when they have nothing to say and end up saying stupid shit?

If you agree, or disagree then post, as long as it's not just to post.

And if you agree that this should be removed then let the moderators/asmins know.

Thanks in advance, JohnDowe.

You're argument is thought out well enough but if you could view every picture you wanted too from the beginning what is stopping you from just being a lurker?

It's an incentive and I wouldn't call it user hostile since you could really find photos on google if you wanted.

It's a forum not an imageboard.

[johndowe]

Hi there.

When i first came to this site it was through a search and i landed on some pics (TG Toons), they were many, all of them great, so i wanted to D/L 'em all, when i reached the limit i found out about the posting and i started this thread, i participate in this site and other similar sites none of the other ones have limits.

AND i wanted to know the math of the post to download ratio, everybody has put in their 2 cents about the limit but,

NO ONE HAS SAID ANYTHING ABOUT HOW THE LIMIT IS CALCULATED!!!!

JohnDowe.

[Jenae LaTorque]

NO ONE HAS SAID ANYTHING ABOUT HOW THE LIMIT IS CALCULATED!!!!

JohnDowe.[/quote]

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When I first joined this forum a little over 2 months ago, I ran into the download limit. I sent a message to the administrator and the answer I got would not reveal the formula for how the download limit was determined, only that it was based on conributions to the forum. So I went about posting text and images; and progressed rapidly from apprentice to junior to Senior Ladyboy Lover. Thus far I have 471 posts, 1600+ uploaded attachments, and 208 reputation points to my credit. Unfortunately I did not track the numbers, and thus do not know when I was upgraded in status to each level. I do know that it did not take more than a week of membership before I stopped encountering a download limit.

Well, so far, fine and good. I was happy sharing pics and my thoughts on this forum. Up until a few days ago, that is. Then I got a rude awakening from Tread. I had posted several T-Girl games and wasn't getting any involvement in the way of answers. Tread was so kind as to point out that because of download limits, most forum members would not upsize the pics in order to play the game. This surprised me as I had just assumed that most members would have progressed to the point where they were not restricted in their download limit as I had. I went back and checked. It was true. The view count was way below what I had expected. The highest view count I could find was in my thread - Slideshows.... , and it was only around a 100.

So what the hell was going on here? The home page claimed over 30 thousand members, 4,345 of which were active (whatever that means) and the view count for the thread stands now at 4,343 which is nearly one view per active member; realizing of course that multiple views by individual members are most likely reflected in this count.

So if I assume that actually only one fourth of the view count reflects visits by differant members, we can say that only 1 out of 10 viewed and downloaded the most popular pic on the thread. That seems to be a very low percentage to me and indicated that tread was correct. Too many members of the forum are restricted in their download limit.

I have to go somewhere now, but more on this later.

[johndowe]

Hi there.

From my posts and the nb of pics i can D/L the limit seems to be:

Pics = (Posts/2) + 10

This as you notice does not take any other facts into account, for the moment it is consistent with my limit, but i was a good boy and did not curse anybody off, even if i sometimes felt like it.

So if you have made 10 posts your limit should be 15, but how does the reputation come into play? one member complainned that he could only D/L 5pics, not knowing how many posts he made it is impossible for me to figure out how it figures in, but if some one could give me info about # of posts Rep points (Goog or Bad, mostly bad) and pic limit, i will be able to figure out the math.

JohnDowe.

[Tread]

I don't know how.
What could influence the download limit?
Number of posts (following title, junior, apprentice, senior)
Posts per day.
How long someone is member.
Reputation
Referrals

I don't know my download limit (slow internet). The total number of posts (without posts in deleted threads) you see under the join date. On view profile you can see posts per day and referrals. The reputation are the green dots. I guess that you get one dot added for 100 reputation points. Another guess is that you get more points if some one with a high reputation gives you good points, than someone with very few points. I don't know how much points are added if someone gives you some. I don't know how many gave me points, can only see the last 5.

Reputations points are not given often or easily, as you can see at Member List sorted by reputation. The easiest way to get reputation is to post unseen/unposted legal (not stolen, or else unlegal) pictures or other media. I got nearly all (one time not) points for pictures.

[Tread]

Originally Posted by johndowe

one member complainned that he could only D/L 5pics, not knowing how many posts he made it is impossible for me to figure out how it figures in, but if some one could give me info about # of posts Rep points (Goog or Bad, mostly bad) and pic limit, i will be able to figure out the math.

I found this guy.

Originally Posted by johndowe

I OBJECT TO THE POST LIMITS IMPOSED BY "OUR" FORUM ADMIN, I WANTED TO PARTICIPATE AND DOWNLOAD PICS AND THEN, AFTER POST NEW ONES IF I HAVE ONES THAT ARE RELEVANT TO THE THEME, BUT I WAS LIMITED TO 5, AND ONLY 5 PIC DOWNLOAD, THE POST I WAS LOOKING AT HAD 100'S OF PICS I DIDN'T WANT TO GET ALL OF THEM BUT, I WANTED MORE THAN 5, F**K, F**K, F**K, F**K, F**K.

This was his 2. post.

Originally Posted by johndowe

And to know the math of it was like, i kinda figure it's 5 + nb of posts, but i'd like to get the right info just to be sure.

And this was his 18. post.

And now you are able to figure out the system?

[Be_my_nude]

I've ( fortunately ) only just come across this Thread, and quite honestly it reads like my five year old grandson ( except where there is genuine speculation on scanty evidence as to what the download limits really are ! )
johndowe ( or whatever your name is ) - for goodness sake pipe down about the discontent stuff ! You've had your answer opinionwise on that and I would say that The Conformists carried the day without too much effort ( but with, I suspect ) a lot of patience. Frankly, for myself, I couldn't care less about the Download Limits. I'm not particularly interested in Movie Downloads, and I only occasionally swoop on a particularly-tasty single frame picture. So my needs are pretty well met.

But I do understand the need to know. Have any of you Seekers-after-Truth asked directly and privately of the Great Panjandrum himself what the entitlement bands are ? Trouble is then it sets a false incentive for qualification, one other than Forum Community Involvement. Jenae and Cocks with Beauty seem to say it just about spot on.

So how about closing this Thread and setting up another on the Entitlement question consciously excluding whingeing and whining ?

Non Conformists should be regarded as quaint Pilgrim Farters.

with you all really,

[johndowe]

Hi there.

JohnDowe here.

Thread dude the top and bottom quotes are mine, but the middle one with the "F**K"s isn't be carefull with the quotes and their sources, please.

JohnDowe.

[johndowe]

Hi there.

Dear Be_my_nude, i only stated my discontentment with the limit, i was far more interested in knowing how the linit was calculated than having to ansewer people who didn't seem to unserstand the consept of venting one's frustrations, and i felt like i had to explain why i was venting, and tried to get this thread back where i want it to go since I DID start it, to know how the limit is calculated, but it always went back to everybody focussing on the venting, but NO ONE HAS GIVEN ANY INFO ABOUT THE MATH OF THE LIMIT, WHICH IS WHY I STARTED THIS THREAD IN THE FIRST PLACE. And after all these kilobytes of little attacks i felt i should ansewer, still no info, only one has addressed this and didn't have much info, but hey he didnt attack my venting, and I DID KEEP MY COOL, I DIDN"T CURSE ANYBODY OFF EVEN IF I FELT LIKE IT, i tried to make them understand my point of vue, but they still only saw their point of view and discounted mine, what should i have done?

And another thing i'd like to add, the critique is always easyer than the art.

JohnDowe.

[ila]

Originally Posted by johndowe

Hi there.

JohnDowe here.

Thread dude the top and bottom quotes are mine, but the middle one with the "F**K"s isn't be carefull with the quotes and their sources, please.

JohnDowe.

Yes it is you. I followed the link and it goes right to this threads

http://forum.transladyboy.com/showth...2323#post52323

which you started. I know it's you because the member #, join date, and number of posts is the same for that thread and for the post that I quoted for this.

[johndowe]

Hi there.

I appologize, i completely forgot i posted that one i was sure i hadn't, starting this one instead a bit later.

I was wrr...

I was rawghh...

I was woyn...

Damn, i can't say it.

But seriously, i do appologize again, sorry.

I'll be nore carefull, and hopefully there won't be a next time.

But enough about the my bitching about the limit, and ansewer the question about the picture per post INCLUDING the "reputation" points, that what i want to know, LEAVE THE REST ALONE THERE HAS ALREADY BEEN WAY TOO MUCH SAID ABOUT IT AS IT IS.

JohnDowe.

[Jenae LaTorque]

It is time to look at the numbers.

Active members - 4,377

Members with 100 posts or more - 164 (3.75 % of active membership)

Members with more than
one green reputation box - 60 (1.37 % of active membership)


After looking at these numbers, I am a bit flattered that I had as many people upsize and possibly download any of the attachments I posted as I did. I was tremendously surprised to see that I, who have only been a member for a few months, was so high on the list of participating members in terms of posting and reputation.

Now this ain't my first rodeo, to use a saying popular out here in Wyoming, and I know that many organizations have a core of 10 percent of the members who do 90 % of the active work. And I know that some of the members are non-English speaking folk who are unable to post comments and may even be unable to understand much of what goes on here.

From what I have been able to surmise, this forum has been in existance a little over two years. This leads to several questions.

1. Are the above percentages an acceptable percentage of member participation?

2. Would a more generous download limit lead to increased participation?

3. Would a posting of an explanation of how the system of participation and rewards works lead to more participation? Perhaps this could be incorporated into a "Mission Statement"?

4. Does anyone else have suggestions or questions that fit into this discussion?

[johndowe]

Hi there.

To be honest i don't realy know what all these numers mean in the grand scheme of things, also you can't realy force someone to be something he is not.

Remember the story of the frog and the scorpion?

Some people will always participate and some will never, most people are somewhere in the middle, and if they HAVE TO participate, the ones that don't like to participate may just leave, or post just to post, and what's the point of that really?

Remember the GIGO syndrome?

JohnDowe.

[Marine_N41_432]

Originally Posted by Jenae LaTorque

It is time to look at the numbers.

Active members - 4,377

Members with 100 posts or more - 164 (3.75 % of active membership)

Members with more than
one green reputation box - 60 (1.37 % of active membership)


After looking at these numbers, I am a bit flattered that I had as many people upsize and possibly download any of the attachments I posted as I did. I was tremendously surprised to see that I, who have only been a member for a few months, was so high on the list of participating members in terms of posting and reputation.

Now this ain't my first rodeo, to use a saying popular out here in Wyoming, and I know that many organizations have a core of 10 percent of the members who do 90 % of the active work. And I know that some of the members are non-English speaking folk who are unable to post comments and may even be unable to understand much of what goes on here.

From what I have been able to surmise, this forum has been in existance a little over two years. This leads to several questions.

1. Are the above percentages an acceptable percentage of member participation?

2. Would a more generous download limit lead to increased participation?

3. Would a posting of an explanation of how the system of participation and rewards works lead to more participation? Perhaps this could be incorporated into a "Mission Statement"?

4. Does anyone else have suggestions or questions that fit into this discussion?

I suspect that an awfully high percentage of the total membership signed on out of passing curiosity or to see what pickings they could get. I bet a load of these are fairly moribund members - participation and activity not really being their thing. There is probably a record out there in the obscure electronic statistics of this forum showing who the most active members are, and how many hits they make per week. It is those members whose views should be sought to my mind.

Not sure about the Mission Statement idea. Good on the face of it, but would it make any real difference ?

Jenae - item 2. I really doubt it. Short term surge from the existing membership but after that . . . . ?

As always

[johndowe]

Hi there.

Enough with the stats, just tell me how the limit is calculated.

JohnDowe.

[johndowe]

Hi there.

I tought the limit was Posts/2 + 10, But, i posted 160 times and i could D/L 213 pictures.

So i need more info.

JohnDowe.

[Tread]

When you are logged in, click on "User CP" there you can see if you got reputation.
If not, you should have watched when you were able to see more. Was it after your 100 post and becoming Senior Ladyboy Lover, or when you reached 0.50 posts per day?

[johndowe]

Hi there.

Ok thanks thread.

Pic D/L: 210

Now 160 posts /2+10= 90

My rep points 40.

D/L ?= Posts/2 + 3*Rep +10

I think that's it watson, (at least for the moment).

JohnDowe.

[Jenae LaTorque]

Originally Posted by johndowe

Hi there.

I tought the limit was Posts/2 + 10, But, i posted 160 times and i could D/L 213 pictures.

So i need more info.

JohnDowe.

You downloaded 213 pics in one day? Impressive! Then you were informed that you had reached your limit? I don't think I have ever downloaded more than a hundred and I haven't run into a limit since my first week.

If you don't mind me asking, how many attachments (pics) have you posted, and how many reputation points have you been awarded? The grand oompah himself told me that those affected the limit also. He would not disclose the specific formula however.

I will not be able to determine my D/L since I am on dial up, and I think it might take me all day to find my limit if I have one. My stats are:

Member since June 2009
Posts 575
Rep Points 216
Attachments U/L 1,830
D/L Limit Unknown
People POed 8 or more
PMs from horny guys 30 +

[johndowe]

Hi there.

Hey, when i do something i don't do it half-ass.

Reputation Points 40.

Attachments: 45 or so i the thread with most of them was del'd.

Posts 160 or so at the time, always something to say, no "empty posts" like "nice pics".

I was mostly D/L your very nice wallpapers, you must have many computers to have to make so many wallpapers.

But, on a more serious note they are great.

JohnDowe.

[johndowe]

Hi there.

Also i always do my best not to loose my cool, cause it's kinda weak to not be able to control yourself.

I always try to treat others like i would like them to treat me, but i readjust my tone to their responces, but i usualy prefer to take the high road when possible.

But when the situation dictates i can be "in your face" better than most.


As for the limit calculation i believe i may have the ansewer but i'm not 100% sure.

Pic D/L = Posts/2 + Rep Points *3 + 10 (So far it seem good but...)

JohnDowe.

[Jenae LaTorque]

Actually I don't consider them as wallpapers. I made them as pages for slideshows which I set to music that fits such as the Odessa Balaikas for the Russian Tgirls.

[johndowe]

Hi there.

To me life's a big joke, although it ain't always funny, but my first tought is often to try to make a joke, then be serious as you might have noticed, that said, i stand corrected on the pics.

JohnDowe.

[Jenae LaTorque]

I know that I am definately not going to be able to test your equation. That would be over 900 downloads just to get in the neighborhood of the proposed limit. I would be catatonic by then. LOL

Not really correcting you there on my pages. Like many things they are a function of their use. I use them in my slideshows, but they will serve okay as wallpapers. In fact there are many programs that put up one wallpaper after another just like a slideshow. I myself use mainly sci-fi type of pics and once in a while Charlize's pics.

This is the one I'm using now. Kinda reminds me of the machine in the movie Contact.

[Tread]

Originally Posted by johndowe

As for the limit calculation i believe i may have the ansewer but i'm not 100% sure.

Pic D/L = Posts/2 + Rep Points *3 + 10 (So far it seem good but...)

That would mean that you had -1.83 RepPoints at post number 1 and -4.33 RepPoints at post number 17.
I guess your equalisation is not complete.

[johndowe]

Hi there.

Hey, i DID ask for help the only ones that any numbers were you Thread and Jenae, but not enough about the numbers i need but stats about the members (Jenae) and contradictory info from you (re read your post), how many posty did you have when you D/L how many pics, and what was your rep points???

Then i'll have more data to work with, right now i only have my data, and i tried to make an equation that fit my stats.

JohnDowe.

[Tread]

Originally Posted by johndowe

Hey, i DID ask for help the only ones that any numbers were you Thread and Jenae, but not enough about the numbers i need but stats about the members (Jenae) and contradictory info from you (re read your post), how many posty did you have when you D/L how many pics, and what was your rep points???

The name is Tread, not thread, before you do it again.

What is contradictory in my post?

Before I noticed the reputation system, I didn't run into the limit anymore, similar problem as Jenae with download speed. I do not know and did not say how many posts I had at which download limit and what my rep points was then.