to those in charge of the Miss Universe Canada KISS THIS

[transjen]

OK this really brings out the New Jersey in me
I saw on CNN today that the people in charge of the Mis Universe Canada has tossed out Miss Vancouver because she was born a boy
they are using a BS small clause about having to be born female
So to those running the pagent and to Donald Trump who runs the whole shabang


KISS THIS!!!

we have come a long way but thanks to Donald and his flunkies we still have a long way to go

oh for those who wonder what Miss Vancouver looks like bellow is a photo of her

Jerseygirl Jen

[DeaconBlues]

Hey there Transjen,

I agree with you 110% on this! I am shocked to read that this happened in Canada! I always figured the Canadians were a bit more civil, well mannered and more progressive than most other folks. But now some snobs are saying that a TG is not elegible to compete with GG's?!? That is just soooooo wrong!

[Enoch Root]

Trump owns the Canada pageant too? Something must be done about that combover!

What I can't believe is they had a clause about genes. You'd figure transwomen being as invisible as they are to society at large they would not have had a clause in place.

[transjen]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Trump owns the Canada pageant too? Something must be done about that combover!.

Trump owns the Miss Universe pagent, the pagent in Canada was for the winner to repersent Canada in the main Miss Universe pagent so yes it is also owned by Trump
Jerseygirl Jen

[Enoch Root]

A pity. I've never cared for the pageants but I would've watched that one had the lady in question been allowed to participate.

What a pile of bullshit. "Participants must be born female..." Uh-huh. Sure.
Saw it on Yahoo! News. Predictable transphobic comments did not help. Wonder whose ass they pulled that alleged clause out of.

[DeaconBlues]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Trump owns the Canada pageant too? Something must be done about that combover!

What I can't believe is they had a clause about genes. You'd figure transwomen being as invisible as they are to society at large they would not have had a clause in place.

I have been thinking about this and since "The Donald" (Trump) is involved... I wonder, just what is the REAL reason for disqualifying her?

Seriously, think about it, a month ago, most of us had not even thought about the Miss Canada beauty pageants, most of us could not care less, most of us would not watch it even if we could watch it on U.S. television... But NOW, look at us NOW. We are all interested in the (wrongly) ousted TG contestant, NOW we are watching, and she MIGHT get back in IF THERE IS ENOUGH PUBLIC OUTRAGE and public interest in her. NOW there is "hype" and interest in this contest.

IF she is allowed to compete, we are all interested to see how she will do and "The Donald" (Trump) can count on LOTS of public interest, and LOTS of money. IF on the other hand she is kept out of the competition, well there will be less interest in the pageant than if she was allowed back in, but still this whole debacle has served to get more interest in the pageant, and ultimately more MONEY for Trump.

[ila]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Trump owns the Canada pageant too? Something must be done about that combover!

What I can't believe is they had a clause about genes. You'd figure transwomen being as invisible as they are to society at large they would not have had a clause in place.

Donald Trump has owned the pageant since 1996. The pageant has always been owned by some entity in the USA. The history of the pageant is at this link. (Remember, Google is your friend when you need to find out some information)

Originally Posted by DeaconBlues

I have been thinking about this and since "The Donald" (Trump) is involved... I wonder, just what is the REAL reason for disqualifying her?...

According to the news reports that I've read Donald Trump is not commenting.

[Alana TG]

UPDATE: She's back in the pageant.....Yay !!!

http://www.torontosun.com/2012/04/02...ack-in-pageant

[kenstar]

Originally Posted by DeaconBlues

Hey there Transjen,

I agree with you 110% on this! I am shocked to read that this happened in Canada! I always figured the Canadians were a bit more civil, well mannered and more progressive than most other folks. But now some snobs are saying that a TG is not elegible to compete with GG's?!? That is just soooooo wrong!

their just jealous that a t-girl might win or people might get an erection and become confused, pathetic I say.
I long for the day when t-girls are treated like regular women with the same equal rights.
how cool would it be to have a bunch of g-girls lose to a t-girl?
It could happen (should happen)


"I'm Ken Star and I approve this message."

[smc]

Originally Posted by kenstar

their just jealous that a t-girl might win or people might get an erection and become confused, pathetic I say.
I long for the day when t-girls are treated like regular women with the same equal rights.
how cool would it be to have a bunch of g-girls lose to a t-girl?
It could happen (should happen)


"I'm Ken Star and I approve this message."

Wow, how insulting! This is genuine discrimination, not jealousy.

[aussiepride]

****JUST A WARNING THAT THIS POST CONTAINS OPINIONS THAT ARE NOT PERSONALLY HELD BY MYSELF, but are expressed by a number of transexual woman that i have been in conversation with***

personally, well to me they are woman, so what ths prob, but many of my ts friends has become very vocal in disapproval of allowing a ts (pre or post op) woman to comepte in the miss universe.

one friend called it disrespectful to "real woman' (her quote), and took away from what the pagent is about. and some of these ts that say this could well hold there own in this pagent.

do the other ts woman on this site hold similar opinions?
me personally its not a big deal, most people see them as woman, they can hold identification that says they are a woman..and yet they cannot be seem with ggs? for what reason...? none.


and what made my blood boil over this topic was a public post to the online news article in australia by one particular person. i thought about reposting it here to show the degree of bigotry, misunderstanding and damm near hatred some people hold regarging this, but i decided opinions like that are left buried in cyber world.

[smc]

Originally Posted by aussiepride

****JUST A WARNING THAT THIS POST CONTAINS OPINIONS THAT ARE NOT PERSONALLY HELD BY MYSELF, but are expressed by a number of transexual woman that i have been in conversation with***

personally, well to me they are woman, so what ths prob, but many of my ts friends has become very vocal in disapproval of allowing a ts (pre or post op) woman to comepte in the miss universe.

one friend called it disrespectful to "real woman' (her quote), and took away from what the pagent is about. and some of these ts that say this could well hold there own in this pagent.

do the other ts woman on this site hold similar opinions?
me personally its not a big deal, most people see them as woman, they can hold identification that says they are a woman..and yet they cannot be seem with ggs? for what reason...? none. ...

I find it difficult to imagine that any trans person who GENUINELY self-identifies as a WOMAN holds the opinion you ascribe above. NOTE my use of the word GENUINELY. I am not doubting the veracity of what you say they told you, only the veracity of who they claim to be. I suspect that when they speak to themselves, they don't make that claim.