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[indianTG]

how many of you here have started getting attracted to men during like browsing though she-male porn or viewing she-male dicks ..... because that what mostly lead to my transformation first i thought i was attracted to only dicks on she-male then when i started cross-dressing men started appealing to me ...just curious

[avrilfuck]

I only liked shemales. Not interest in men. But yes on women.

[randolph]

Originally Posted by indianTG

how many of you here have started getting attracted to men during like browsing though she-male porn or viewing she-male dicks ..... because that what mostly lead to my transformation first i thought i was attracted to only dicks on she-male then when i started cross-dressing men started appealing to me ...just curious

This is an interesting question. When Dustin Hoffman played Tootsie, he said the experience of dressing like a woman had a strange effect on him. He began feeling like a woman. I don,t know if he began feeling an attraction to men, however.
There seems to be a fine line between attraction to tgurl cocks and male cocks. Ladyboys for example, are obviously cute males yet "straight" males love them. Does beauty somehow cancel out the resistance towards homosexuality?

[SweetCharmer]

same here i don't find men attractive cock on woman yes. man no no

[The Conquistador]

Originally Posted by randolph

Does beauty somehow cancel out the resistance towards homosexuality?

I'd say yes. I remember seeing a bunch of crossdressers who were drop dead goregeous with makeup and wigs on but when that stuff came off, I was no longer attracted to them. I think a more appropriate question would be,"Does feminine beauty somehow cancel out the resistance towards homosexuality?"

[randolph]

Originally Posted by TheAngryPostman

I'd say yes. I remember seeing a bunch of crossdressers who were drop dead goregeous with makeup and wigs on but when that stuff came off, I was no longer attracted to them. I think a more appropriate question would be,"Does feminine beauty somehow cancel out the resistance towards homosexuality?"

Is it "real" feminine beauty or the "illusion" of feminine beauty. Can the brain tell the difference or does the brain "want" to tell the difference.

Originally Posted by indianTG

how many of you here have started getting attracted to men during like browsing though she-male porn or viewing she-male dicks...just curious

I consider myself to be exclusively heterosexual yet I find myself attracted to tgirls. Yes, at first I was somewhat confused. I wasn't sure if I was suddenly--at age 30--"turning gay."

This forum has been a great place to learn about the many issues involved. For me it has done two things: 1. Helped me to better understand and accept my own sexuality and feelings for transwomen. 2. Understand what is involved in living day-to-day as a transwoman so that should I ever meet someone, I will be able to be a good partner for her.

There are many posts where I discuss my own feelings and how I came to be here in the first place so I will not bore you anymore with that. However here is a link to one of my most recent posts:

http://forum.transladyboy.com/showth...010#post111010

So far, I have not become attracted to men or interested in gay porn. I have had gay and lesbian friends since college and have always been a supporter of gay rights. Also I am a little "older" than most of you and was married for 15 years. All of my sexual experiences have been with "ggirls" including those I've dated since my divorce. The idea of sex with a "man" does not turn me on--but "tgirls" are something different entirely. I see them as women. I am not sure how to explain it other than that. I don't believe it is "suppressed homosexuality" or a "fetish" either (see my other postings). The rest of the world is only now beginning to learn about "transgendered" people--I believe there is still a long way to go before there will be the same understanding and acceptance as even the gay and lesbian communities have. But it will happen.

As far as my own gender identification. I have always identified as "male." I have never desired to be a woman or crossdressed (not that I think there's anything wrong with that!). As far as transitioning and living as a transwoman, I have an incredible amount of respect for anyone who does. I have been trying to learn as much as I can so that one day, if that special someone does come into my life, I will be a worthy partner for her.

[The Conquistador]

Originally Posted by randolph

Is it "real" feminine beauty or the "illusion" of feminine beauty. Can the brain tell the difference or does the brain "want" to tell the difference.

I think it is more about the degrees of beauty rather than "this or that". Kind of like how things aren't hot or cold, but that things that are "cold" are actually just lacking heat energy; it is just varied degrees of heat. Femininity is feminine regardless of whom it is applied to. Take for instance Robert Pattinson from Twilight. He looks feminine somewhat and I'm sure that a couple hours with Jenae and Latexblaze and he will look like a pretty little bitch. Or for a more drastic example, look at Bill Kaulitz. Is his ladyness an illusion? No. He is a striking example of male femininity. The womanness of him is just a heavier degree of femininity that has been applied to someone of the male gender.

By saying that it is an illusion, it is kinda saying that the femininity is not really there, that upon closer inspection there will be no female qualities. However, femininity is present in both examples; one of those examples just has more than the other.

Our brain is primitive by nature; our inherent instinct is survival(whether it is fighting off a rabid animal, trying to keep the human species alive through procreation, sustaining ourselves with food and water or finding/making shelter to protect us from the elements). The thing that seperates us from lesser animals is our ability to override our instincts/urges with rational or logical thought. We have a governer built into our brain unlike our chimp relatives and when you see docile chimps go absolutely apeshit(no pun intended) it is because they do not have the mechanisms to control or think about their actions; they act on urge/emotion/instinct.

When we look at a beautiful woman, our first instinct is not to think about what her favorite color or other such nonsense is, it is the want/need to procreate with a female of superior breeding qualities. That is the instinct kicking in and it is what usually guides us in the general direction. Our rationality and logic is more of like a fine tuner and keeps us from clubbing her over the head and dragging her back to our cave for a night of hot nasty Cro-Magnon style sex.

When we see feminine males and transsexuals, our primitive mind is attracted to the femininity and is what makes us want to stick our dick in them. Regardless of what anyone says, homosexuality is natural and the thing that keeps us from fucking a feminine man is our ability to think and ponder our actions and the mistaken belief that has been drilled into our head that homosexuality is somehow inherently wrong.

Originally Posted by TheAngryPostman

When we look at a beautiful woman, our first instinct is not to think about what her favorite color or other such nonsense is, it is the want/need to procreate with a female of superior breeding qualities. That is the instinct kicking in and it is what usually guides us in the general direction. Our rationality and logic is more of like a fine tuner and keeps us from clubbing her over the head and dragging her back to our cave for a night of hot nasty Cro-Magnon style sex.

When we see feminine males and transsexuals, our primitive mind is attracted to the femininity and is what makes us want to stick our dick in them. Regardless of what anyone says, homosexuality is natural and the thing that keeps us from fucking a feminine man is our ability to think and ponder our actions and the mistaken belief that has been drilled into our head that homosexuality is somehow inherently wrong.

Excellent post "Postman"! That is the "missing link" (no pun intended) I've been trying to understand. Well said!

Speaking of "primitive," time to go lift. Then going to watch the Colts with friends. You know I've never been attracted to Peyton Manning--but I did get a hardon when they won the Super Bowl a while back. LOL! (Sorry--couldn't stay serious for very long).

Later...

[randolph]

Originally Posted by TheAngryPostman

I think it is more about the degrees of beauty rather than "this or that". Kind of like how things aren't hot or cold, but that things that are "cold" are actually just lacking heat energy; it is just varied degrees of heat. Femininity is feminine regardless of whom it is applied to. Take for instance Robert Pattinson from Twilight. He looks feminine somewhat and I'm sure that a couple hours with Jenae and Latexblaze and he will look like a pretty little bitch. Or for a more drastic example, look at Bill Kaulitz. Is his ladyness an illusion? No. He is a striking example of male femininity. The womanness of him is just a heavier degree of femininity that has been applied to someone of the male gender.

By saying that it is an illusion, it is kinda saying that the femininity is not really there, that upon closer inspection there will be no female qualities. However, femininity is present in both examples; one of those examples just has more than the other.



Our brain is primitive by nature; our inherent instinct is survival(whether it is fighting off a rabid animal, trying to keep the human species alive through procreation, sustaining ourselves with food and water or finding/making shelter to protect us from the elements). The thing that seperates us from lesser animals is our ability to override our instincts/urges with rational or logical thought. We have a governer built into our brain unlike our chimp relatives and when you see docile chimps go absolutely apeshit(no pun intended) it is because they do not have the mechanisms to control or think about their actions; they act on urge/emotion/instinct.

When we look at a beautiful woman, our first instinct is not to think about what her favorite color or other such nonsense is, it is the want/need to procreate with a female of superior breeding qualities. That is the instinct kicking in and it is what usually guides us in the general direction. Our rationality and logic is more of like a fine tuner and keeps us from clubbing her over the head and dragging her back to our cave for a night of hot nasty Cro-Magnon style sex.

When we see feminine males and transsexuals, our primitive mind is attracted to the femininity and is what makes us want to stick our dick in them. Regardless of what anyone says, homosexuality is natural and the thing that keeps us from fucking a feminine man is our ability to think and ponder our actions and the mistaken belief that has been drilled into our head that homosexuality is somehow inherently wrong.

Yes, a goodpost.
The term homosexual, I believe, is irrelevant and has caused endless suffering in the human race. Biologically, we are similar to Bonobos who use sex for socializing and sexual pleasure with whomever, wherever and whenever. Religion and so called social mores have messed us up big time.
I dont care about labels anymore. My brain lusts after beautiful sexy hard cocked fully functional trannys.
I want to love them and pleasure them and suck up their sexy juices, so to hell with the labels.

Originally Posted by randolph

The term homosexual, I believe, is irrelevant and has caused endless suffering in the human race... ...Religion and so called social mores have messed us up big time.

Another good point! I think modern society is slowly beginning to grasp this. But we still have a long way to go.

[The Conquistador]

Originally Posted by randolph

The term homosexual, I believe, is irrelevant and has caused endless suffering in the human race.

I think the terms are rather befitting(from a biological view anyways). It is the connotation that goes along with the word that is the problem. Until we can associate the term with something else,(the gays tried this with a rainbow but without much success) or completely rid ourselves of associative emotion, yes it will still cause suffering. The word in and of itself is just a description of preference and/or natural animalistic behavior. Nothing more. It's a shame that people can't understand that.

[EdwardSinclair]

Originally Posted by TheAngryPostman

The word in and of itself is just a description of preference and/or natural animalistic behavior. Nothing more. It's a shame that people can't understand that.

We are only mortals, names wane through time, yet we must give them so we can know what is ours. Your progeny will all be named, and it is how people will relate them to you. In labelling we find comfort, especially about things we don't understand. How many times people will turn to you and say "oh, I know you!! You are evil....", because in saying this it gives them a sense of superiority, they are now somehow better than you, this gives them peace of mind. This is something that is most unlikely to change, not as long as people walk this earth.

It's all the same to the dead though, names, race, gender, money, all worthless. Once we reach that state of consciousness all that is left is the essence of life, which is a common bond we all share, we are all the same if you look at the core of things.

Even beauty fades, with time, or through disfigurement in an accident. Sexual desire also wanes with time, through impotence, psychological disorders, or drug abuse... I could go on... but we all know this stuff and reinforces the fact that life is too short for all this BS processing!!

What I think, and you think is always gonna be different because we are all different, sure we can agree on some points, but eventually we will have to agree to disagree. You can't please everyone, no matter how many logical points you make, there's always an idiot waiting to prove you are wrong. Furthermore you could hold a phD for all we know, and the only thing you will do abobut having this argument is venting some frustration (which is fun), and get some degree of happiness from the people that agree with you. As for real changes, like new laws or ethics on how people should adress you, that will never happen here... for that you should join some political group (are there any t-girls in politics? That's an interesting idea right there).

Seriously life is too short to care about perceived notions, and what everybody else thinks. As long as you are not harming a third person, nor yourself (physically nor emotionally), and you follow your state rules and regulations, then who cares?? Enjoy life, don't waste time thinking about depressing norms, it is a WASTE OF TIME!!

[local]

Originally Posted by indianTG

how many of you here have started getting attracted to men during like browsing though she-male porn or viewing she-male dicks ..... because that what mostly lead to my transformation first i thought i was attracted to only dicks on she-male then when i started cross-dressing men started appealing to me ...just curious

Not the slightest bit interested in gay porn or the like -- just doesn't work for me. Yes, the "main course" is the same, but the presentation and side dishes make the whole difference.

[snowman100]

Gay porn actually turns my stomach for some reason, its regualar porn or tgirls all the way for me