User Titles

[smc]

I received a PM from a member asking why he had gone from "junior ladyboy lover" to "apprentice ladyboy lover" -- which he took to be a "demotion." I explained to SSL, the site owner, that the reason for this confusion that most people think "apprentice" is lower than "junior." For instance, at a business firm, an "apprentice" might be a non-paid intern who is learning, whereas a junior associate or junior partner or something like that is definitely higher up.

SSL's response: "We certainly need a new set of user titles as the current one sucks."

So, I am beginning this thread to discuss possibilities. I've given this some thought today. One question is how many levels there should be. More broadly, though, are the terms we should use.

I have thought about models from the military (ranks), chess (the FIDE world chess federation rankings), and the old guild structure from the Middle Ages and Renaissance. I have avoided anything associated with video games, since that is a world I do not know.

My suggestion first is to dispense with "ladyboy lover" as part of the title. I recommend that whatever titles we use include "poster" or "forum member" or "member," or if we want to retain something of the old titles, "Trans Lover." "Member" and "Poster" seems to be the preferred use at some other forums I looked at. At one, for instance, the titles are:

Silver Poster
Veteran Poster
Junior Poster

At another, there are:

Senior Member
Junior Member

If we don't want anything quite so simple, we could adapt (not literally) the chess model and have four levels:

Grandmaster Member / Grandmaster Poster / Grandmaster Trans Lover
Master Member / Master Poster / Master Trans Lover
Junior ...
Apprentice ...

Of course, using Master means we could also have Senior Master Bator

A Guild-like schema might be:

Master
Journeyman / Journeywoman / Journeyperson
Apprentice

These are just brainstorming ideas, to get the discussion going.

[ila]

There is a thread in General discussion about this issue. I don't remember the title of the thread so one will have to do some manual searching to find it. I do think that the thread has been inactive for almost two years so it might not be easy to find.

[SSL]

Originally Posted by ila

There is a thread in General discussion about this issue. I don't remember the title of the thread so one will have to do some manual searching to find it. I do think that the thread has been inactive for almost two years so it might not be easy to find.

This thread was actually about user reputation levels, i'll bump it as well

[shadows]

I think that members should be able to choose personalized User Titles. I know that I would utilize it.

[ErosArtist]

Originally Posted by shadows

I think that members should be able to choose personalized User Titles. I know that I would utilize it.

I think personalized titles are a good idea.

That said, and FWIW, the title system the way it is was never difficult for me to understand. Quite honestly, I never paid attention to it. But, if SSL wants to change it...

One question though - post counts are already shown - so is a title designating the length of time one has been a member really necessary?

[smc]

Originally Posted by shadows

I think that members should be able to choose personalized User Titles. I know that I would utilize it.

Originally Posted by hegirllvr

I think personalized titles are a good idea. ...

One question though - post counts are already shown - so is a title designating the length of time one has been a member really necessary?

I believe the point of standardized titles is as a designator of level "achieved" (for want of a better word), which is determined by a simple algorithm reflecting number of posts and reputation (but not, I do not think, "length of time one has been a member"). Self-chosen titles would defeat that purpose, obviously -- but perhaps that purpose is of no consequence.

[Slavetoebony]

Or "Beginner" for the newbies, going on to "Interested", "Hooked" to "Completely Addicted".

[ErosArtist]

Originally Posted by smc

I believe the point of standardized titles is as a designator of level "achieved" (for want of a better word), which is determined by a simple algorithm reflecting number of posts and reputation (but not, I do not think, "length of time one has been a member"). Self-chosen titles would defeat that purpose, obviously -- but perhaps that purpose is of no consequence.

Ah yes, you are correct. The coffee hadn't hit yet when I made that post.

The idea of "level achievement" (again, for lack of a better phrase) is more purposeful on this site than other forum sites I belong to. Here, simplistic reply posts in threads such as 'hot girl' or 'yeah' are discouraged and active participation in the forums is encouraged.

For that reason, perhaps the system works well enough. Aren't we then be dealing with an issue of semantics?

[smc]

Originally Posted by hegirllvr

Ah yes, you are correct. The coffee hadn't hit yet when I made that post.

The idea of "level achievement" (again, for lack of a better phrase) is more purposeful on this site than other forum sites I belong to. Here, simplistic reply posts in threads such as 'hot girl' or 'yeah' are discouraged and active participation in the forums is encouraged.

For that reason, perhaps the system works well enough. Aren't we then be dealing with an issue of semantics?

Yes, we are dealing with semantics -- "how humans express themselves through language." In this case, SSL (the site owner) has expressed his opinion that the the current set of user titles "sucks," implying that as humans we are not expressing ourselves well with this particular taxonomy. Perhaps we need him to chime in on what he would like the taxonomy to express, and then we can discuss titles.

[ErosArtist]

Originally Posted by smc

Yes, we are dealing with semantics -- "how humans express themselves through language." In this case, SSL (the site owner) has expressed his opinion that the the current set of user titles "sucks," implying that as humans we are not expressing ourselves well with this particular taxonomy. Perhaps we need him to chime in on what he would like the taxonomy to express, and then we can discuss titles.

Excellent idea.

And speaking of semantics, and the fact the phrase 'that sucks' or 'it sucks' implies something to be a negative thing or action. How did that come to be? Personally, I like the verb in all it's variety: I suck, you suck, he sucks, she sucks, and so on. How can that possibly be bad?

Ok, thread hijack complete...

[smc]

Originally Posted by hegirllvr

Excellent idea.

And speaking of semantics, and the fact the phrase 'that sucks' or 'it sucks' implies something to be a negative thing or action. How did that come to be? Personally, I like the verb in all it's variety: I suck, you suck, he sucks, she sucks, and so on. How can that possibly be bad?

Ok, thread hijack complete...

I actually can answer your question about "suck," but I feel it would suck () to take the thread even more off track. So, why don't you start a new thread on word origins -- this is very closely related to my academic work -- and we can have a discussion. I'd like that. (I'll be teaching in a few minutes so I might now answer until later today.)

[ErosArtist]

Done...starting new thread...NOW!

[SSL]

i got a PM with these suggestions, what do you think of them?

I'm so happy I've reached the next stage. Transladyboy made my day!

And very happy, you asked for my suggestions,... worthy of a ladyboylover. Ummm, rankings.....maybe.....curious ldblv, addicted ldblv, virgin ldblv, ripe cherry..ready for picking ldblv, and for the finallee ....(let you know)

More ideas?

[Rachel]

Put me down as Head Bitch lol

[ila]

Originally Posted by Rachel

Put me down as Head Bitch lol

Be careful of what you wish for, you just might get it.

In all honesty, who actually gives a fuck...? The last time I remember giving a damn about post counts and member titles on an internet forum was when I was 13.

[smc]

Originally Posted by CuriousJim

In all honesty, who actually gives a fuck...? The last time I remember giving a damn about post counts and member titles on an internet forum was when I was 13.

Perhaps it didn't occur to you that some of our members -- some of the transwomen in particular -- might "give a fuck."

Originally Posted by CuriousJim

In all honesty, who actually gives a fuck...? The last time I remember giving a damn about post counts and member titles on an internet forum was when I was 13.

Can’t believe that something so innocuous as this would piss off someone. Good grief! I think the User titles are harmless and fun. As far as post count and reputation--it gives some idea of the amount and quality of a member’s participation and what others think.

Still thinking about my own “title.” Hmmmmmm… "Senior Kelly Shore Stalker"?