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The PRK is chock full of many stupid rules. To try and grasp the stupidity would drive you mad. Actually you do need proof of training to buy a handgun in Commiefornia. If you see someone who you know has not had firearms training and is being stupid with a weapon i.e. pointing it at someone or pointing it at themselves to demonstrate that "a loaded gun won't fire on SAFE" you are well within your rights to slap the ever loving shit out of them and chastise them for being a dumbshit.
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A common fallacy that people have regarding firearms.
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It takes considerable skill to fire a pistol and accurately hit a target even 25meters away. As much as you might not think so, a rifle is more accurate than a pistol. If one of my family members was in the vicinity of the criminal, I would trust a rifle over a pistol. There are risks involved in everything you do, regardless of whether or not you are shooting, driving to the store, playing a game of soccer or football etc. Proper training is key.
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From Wikipedia Gun Violence
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You can argue a big gun is more efficient than a small one (determent and man stopping). A machine gun would be even more, or a XM214 Microgun, a tank, but is there a need? (the elephant again) Quote:
Would you go get your gun, aim and shoot, while your family is threaten by a psychotic person? You can follow the references from Wikipedia, if that helps. What are your needs for a believable reference? |
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1) Crimes thwarted by the victim being armed. It does not display the ratio of crimes averted by the victim being armed vs crimes actually commited with weapons. Alot of attacks that were stopped without shots fired don't get added into the statistics as they don't fall into the "violent crimes" category. All those statistics do is record how many violent crimes actually went through unhindered. 2) Justifiable Homicide. Again, Homicide, whether justifiable or not still falls into the "homicide" category. Until there is a distinction between the two when the statistics are collected and processed, the numbers are still largely skewed.
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[QUOTE=Tread;11172 Not one of the three persons that walked in your direction has threatened you or your family. A violent potential or weapons wasn’t visible either, expect by you.
You judge them to be criminal by their looks, age and walking in your direction. You should always be aware in suspicious settings, but it’s not sure they were criminals. In the second case, if he watched you the whole time, and waited for you, he is supposable after your money. Hmm I thought I described the situation quite well enough for a rational person to put themselves in my shoes at that time and place. And I suppose all 3 gentlemen were just approaching me for friendship and good conversation? You are very naive Tread. |
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It's not his faul Rachel. Maybe this pic will help you understand.
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ok now this is just my observation but i think this Thread has slightly lost the plot.
this thread obviously started out in helping people get information on getting DIFFERENT ways on self defense but all i can is that its boiled down into an argument between those inside and outside of America. look Tread. Stop trying to push your views onto people when guns have obviously worked in america for the last 200 years or so. different cultures have different rules, thats the beauty of this world. in the end you're gonna get crime anywhere. plus i don't hear you going on about other places with gun crime like thailand, etc. At the same time Rachel and AngryPost, i know from reading the posts that guns have saved you or your loved ones time and time again yet it wouldn't hurt to acknowledge the usefulness of hand to hand. there was a story here in the UK of a cop that was almost stabbed in the neck if it weren't for his training and fast reflexes yet at the same time here people are so eager to have a gun that they've taken to modifying BB guns to fire live ammo. gun crime is everywhere. different countries deal with it in different ways and for each country it seems to be working for a while. Bottom line. if someone asks for advice on this thread instead for stating the importance of a gun alone. put down some ideas for hand to hand as a added help. it never pays to be well prepared. Love & Peace
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Ms. Rachel also stated in another thread that she is trained in Muay Thai.
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hand to hand
I told Pixie to carry brass knuckles like I do.
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Even it was enjoyable, for the threads sake I'll stop asking why they expect some kind of Jason Voorhees in their home. (Damn, did it again) Martial Arts: In my opinion American Kenpō Karate, German Ju-Jutsu and a bit easier (Civilian) Krav Maga are the best choices for self defence. But the most martial arts have good working defence techniques. If you don't want to learn the full program a usual self defence course teaches essential moves, behaviour, responsibility and confidence in a short time. Personally I would prefer Spetsnaz Combat-Sambo or Jeet Kune Do, but it's nearly impossible to get a proper training in these. |
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Combat Sambo is pretty badass but I don't know anyone down here that teaches it.
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When a badass comes at you, blow him away.
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hpothetical situation
Hey Tread what do you guys do over there if someone breaks into your home with the intent to rob and maybe hurt you? Fight like a Frenchman? I surrender!
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anything goes :D
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I can get 3 shot groups with my 357 magnum at 30 feet away
nearly dead center, with my 03-A3 springfield a 3 shot group at 500 yards!, without a scope mount the peephole is allways kept clear you aim thru and she will fire thru. |
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If the risk is too high, surrender is not the worst act (if you have a gun or not). Some would probably lock their self in a room and call the police. Other would chase them away, or fight them (with or without weapons). There are as much behaviours as in the US, only that guns are less common. I don't know what I would do, the case isn't clear enough, and I never was in such a situation. I would probably call the police try to get something to identify the person (photo, car licence number, robber belongings, protect objects with fingerprints) before the person run away. If the person wants to hurt me, I would defend me in a reasonable way (this doesn't sound like a you or I death situation). If I can I would arrest the person until police is there (depending how fast, strong and what happens). It is/was really difficult for me to not post more to your statements, but this would start a discussion that was/is not my intension. |
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Oooooh! Oooooh! Oooooh! Is it a Springfield Armory or Rock Island Armory 1903? Gibbs Rifle Company is making 1903A4s that look pretty damn close to the real thing, the only noticeable differences that I could see were the markings on the rifle.
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He used it for deer hunting.
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Sorry Tread
I'm sorry I took a good jab at you there. Hope you arent French lol Being that this thread started as self defense lets get to the heart of the matter. First and foremost is your mindset. The will to survive. By whatever means neccesary. Surrender isnt an option in my book. I'd rather go down swinging then die on my knees. If you have a choice of a weapon to defend your self with what would you choose? I'd take a bat over a stick. I'll take a firearm over the bat. I'll take a large gun over a smaller one.
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The Krag-Jorgensen
Actually Mr. Randolph, it's "Krag", a Norwegian designed rifle. It was the first American military firearm to use smokeless powder instead of a compressed black powder loading and was carried by Teddy Roosevelt when he hit San Juan Hill.
http://www.gunsandammomag.com/cs/Sat...agenum%3D1 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krag-J%C3%B8rgensen It is quite similar to the .303 British round in dimension and power (but not interchangeable) http://gunsandammomag.com/cs/Satelli...OR+.30-40+Krag http://gunsandammomag.com/cs/Satelli...R+.303+British and has an unusual loading system (unusual in that it loads by means of a trapdoor and not a stripper clip like comparable Mauser or Mannlicher rifles of the time). Some purists will talk shit about the round and attributes of the rifle but until someone quantifies "dead", it is still useful for killing things like milk jugs, watermelons, large game and Spaniards. A good sturdy rifle overall.
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I stop responding to you in this thread, because I think if I start it would easily escalade. If you really want to force out my opinion to your gun views, you have to create a better fitting thread and only eventually I would post there one or two things. |
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stop responding?
Awww another Christmas present I wont be getting
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Tread, Rachel. Why don't you settle this over a match of naked wrestling?
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On CNN
Thought this was worth sharing. Much respect to them!
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/wor...ate.granny.cnn |
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Talk about a kick now that is about the biggest gun that
i have fired with a big kick, and when using xx highpower loads. my sister lives about a mile and a half from that firing range and she can hear me shooting it.i used a 180 grain full metal jacket xx bullet that had a big kick i am surprised the range officer let me fire that thing i have to ask permission when firing large cal. guns. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcAgEgbIBcg .p.s. that guy in the video looks all most like me too Last edited by DSL; 10-17-2009 at 03:15 PM. |
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Something is better than nothing. http://closecombattraining.com/blog/?p=213 *A brief bio of Col. Applegate*
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Books and other stuff
Here's a few of my other "toys." I also have quite an extensive library of martial arts related books. That "knife-type-thing" next to the sword is a Smith and Wesson "First Response" tool. It can be flipped open with one hand like a switchblade if you practice... I carry one in my vehicle always. It can cut through seatbelts, has a pry bar, and a spring loaded carbide tip that can shatter a windshield. I have two, and mail-ordered them from U.S. Cavalry many years ago. Get one if you don't already own one!
Akido is something I would love to study one day. I only have the one book and have practiced just a few techniques from it. I don't know where my copy of "In the Gravest Extreme" by Massad Ayoob went--but it is recommended reading for anyone interested in self-defense. Last edited by aw9725; 02-24-2010 at 10:19 PM. |
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http://www.gerber-tools.com/Gerber-A...ombat-5780.htm One bad-ass dude! I'm glad he was on our side! |
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That thing to the bottom-right if your nightstick; is that a kubaton?
Also, I like the knuckle-knife combo.
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Kubotan
Yes it is. I bought a bunch of them a while back and used to give them as Christmas presents!
Most of that stuff I bought while living here in Indiana (almost no restrictions apply) or in Michigan (Detroit "Wayne County" has tight restrictions--what's the logic? Someone can go to Oakland county and get knives and other stuff quite easily). Don't know if they can be sent to "Kalifornia"? My understanding is that there are holds and techniques for them. My use of one would be mostly be to apply to pressure points or strike the eyes, throat, or temples. Have you ever had training with one? The knife is a Frostwood "Undertaker" bowie. I bought two of them just in case they were ever restricted and something happened to the first one. It has a 9" blade. When we were discussing home defense weapons--I thought about it--it is nearby if I couldn't get to my 12 ga. The SIG is kept in a safe so wouldn't be much good unless I had time. Also, that little "dagger" between the Kobotan and the sword is called a "CIA letter opener." It is made of fiberglass and nylon and can be sharpened. You can put one in a necktie or tape it to your ankle. That Don's guns I posted pictures of is a great place to get stuff like this. At least in Indiana. I am pretty sure I got the Kubotans there. Last edited by aw9725; 10-17-2009 at 06:38 PM. |
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I made this dagger in high school metal shop many years ago. Imagine doing this today?
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Not in the DPRK (Democratic Peoples Republic of Kalifornia)
Nope But I would like to. My friend has one of those except his looks like a a small version of the cruciform bayonet usually found on Mosins, SKSs and early AK's. Those things are badass. As usual, they are not found in the DPRK.
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I think you'd like it.
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That is very cool. Nice work. No they wouldn't let anyone get away with it today. When I was in HS metal shop as a Freshman (84-85) we made "throwing stars" out of sheet metal--if you got caught it was detention. Anyway--I think I still have mine somewhere. |
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More fun toys
Here are a few more items from my collection. The big one is a Mortal Kombat "Raptor" knife made for the movie. Cool looking but not really practical (poorly balanced--awkward grip). The ones on the left are a set of 3 Gil Hibben throwing knives made famous by Steven Segal in "Under Siege." The "hatchet" is a "throwing axe." Yes it sticks... The odd shaped one next to the Raptor is for "skinning." The "T shaped" one--put it in your fist and--well you get the idea... On the left is a cheap switchblade and the little guy on the right is a Gerber pocket knife bought at the local Dick's sporting goods.
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And this one rates its own post...
The blade alone on this Fer is 11 inches! It is very similar to the one used in Rambo III. I bought it as a novelty collectors piece. Not practical. Very "blade" heavy--more like a sword. One could use two hands and "slash" with it. Also not sure of its legality in other states.
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well for me it would have to be any of my 7 blades i have in my room ranging from 6inches to FKING big but if i had a choice out of guns too i'd have to pick the colt .45 something about it i like dunno why
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Well i have a very large 13 inch bowie knife in my apartment like the one in
the pic but that one is only 9 inches the one i have is 13 inch blade with engraved markings on the blade and gold trim on the handle i paid $350 for it in a knife show here a few years back. i also have a 10 inch rambo knife also camo handle. Last edited by DSL; 10-18-2009 at 06:06 AM. |
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fight
It wouldnt even be a fair contest. Who you got your money on?
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I don't think I would want to try it with modern ammo.
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Now THAT'S a knife! (I've sometimes heard those called "Texas Toothpicks")
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If you ever take up reloading, you can build your own "flavors" of ammo. I have a loading press at home and I load 30-06 and .223. It's a fun hobby.
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I would just be there to watch, not bet. hehehehe
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hmmm look at my angry face avatar
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LOL A friend took this pic of me said I reminded him of Lorena Bobbit
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