Erections and the tgirl.

[Katey lynn]

I am a MtF girl, yet to start hormones, as of now I am not planning on going the full transition, as I see myself as more middle ground leaning towards female, rather than a female in a male body.

I understand that starting hormones will decrease my ability to maintain erections, I'm slightly bummed by this, but I would much rather have the feminine body that I feel I need.

In short, what are your feelings on this subject? Are there ways for girls like myself to maintain a this part of themselves while reaping the benefits of hormones? I know other girls feel very differently about this subject.

[TeslaDante]

First, my feelings are not important.
Unfortunately the hype of "best of both worlds" has disallusioned you.
Female hormones rage war on male body parts.
I think I read a post by JodieTS that addresses this matter. Do a search of her posts and be prepared for an answer you may not like.

[Katey lynn]

No offense, but no the hype has not disillusioned me. I understand fully that hormones will effect my male libido drastically, and my sexual feeling will change a lot. I've even come to the peace with the fact that while I may like to remain in a middle ground sort of area now, I will in the future possibly elect to go through with the change fully.

I simply want to find out techniques that other girls that wish to stay in the middle ground employ to remain active, because it obviously can be done.

Sorry if I sound bitchy, I have a real hard time writing my thoughts out clearly. I really mean no offense.

[TeslaDante]

I found it. Here's what Jodie says:

Not after a period on hormones.
The penis shrinks
Most Ts's no longer get hard
of if they do, are unable to stay hard.
after about two years, ejaculate becomes a clear liquid
and reduces to a few drops, then nothing at all.

Sorry to piss on the fantasy, n' all that.
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[Lipslockd143]

Hey katey lynn

Are you truly that comfortable with your body as of right now? Transitioning to a female takes true commitment and although the mentality may change , it takes a strong heart to follow through. That being said , just re-evaluate your situation, mindset and your goals :D

[Sammitranni]

I'm in that 'middle ground' - and planning on staying in it lol. I'm not going to tell you its perfect, but there's nothing inevitable about the 'worst case' scenario horror stories either. Everyone is different, and depending on the level of need for treatments (some like me need less if you already have a moderately 'girly' looking form to start with) and the dose you require of whatever combin\tion - plus whether or not you choose castration - all have an effect on the outcome with individuals.

There is nothing certain about your 'cock shrivelling to almost nothing' - mine hasnt and neither have those of a couple of other (older) women I know. It is tru that the testicles are more often affected, although of course if they are still there they are still producing testosterone.

Psychological factors can't be ignored either - and play a big part in desire and response in all people, not only TS. My sexual response remains adequate, not so many spontaneous erections but it works when it has to. Talk it over with a lot of docs and other TS - its mainly all about balance. And good luck!

[JodieTs]

Originally Posted by TeslaDante

I found it. Here's what Jodie says:

Not after a period on hormones.
The penis shrinks
Most Ts's no longer get hard
of if they do, are unable to stay hard.
after about two years, ejaculate becomes a clear liquid
and reduces to a few drops, then nothing at all.

Sorry to piss on the fantasy, n' all that.
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Hi Katey lynn.

Just to expand with my specific experience.
I started hormones 4 ? years ago, self medding
on a relatively low dose
Microgynon
{Progestogen ? Estrogen combination}
I tablet / day
Levonorgestrel 0.15mg a synthetic form of progesterone
Ethinylestradiol 0.03mg is a synthetic version of oestrogen

Later I would be scripted by my doc, along with 6 monthly blood tests which are important.
Climaval {Estradiol Valerate} 6 mg / day
Finasteride 2.5 mg / day
Zoladex implant---chemical castration

This is part of an article I wrote a couple of years ago
{I might post up the whole thing, it's about transition}

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Hormones
...Like for example, my main drive for hormones was a more feminine body,
to match what I felt inside. Then along the way my reasons / motivations subtlety altered.
I'd read about how some Ts' derive a psychological benefit from hormones.
I used to think WTF is that all about? Do they delude themselves that
popping pills makes them feel female inside??? Well, actually, yes, it does.
A year ago, I had an operation & came off 'mones, for a 3 week period
& the testosterone rush was intense. Familiar, yet alien to who I was.
& its effects (mood-swings, stropy, argumentative, were real ncomfortable) Hope I don't have to do that again any time soon.
My bio/ chem hormone makeup was always just ?wrong? but it took this event to realise just how much.

And then, a more fem body started to appear.
Yet this was now a secondary benefit to the psychological benefit I'd previously thought to be a delusion.
Still nice to have one appear, anyway.

Sex
They say 'mones drop your sex drive.
Well in a ?hard-on gotta have a wank way?, they do.
But here's the funny thing. I feel more of a sexual & sensual being than I ever did as a man
(lets be honest, I used to be a man, I'm sure you can deal with that simple fact while you check out my photos)
Maybe its a spirit thing, of feeling completeness.
& sex is brilliant, even more than before. And it happens because I want it to,
not just because of the daily surge of testosterone through my body.
& everything is just much more sensual.
And real.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


My personal observation is that sex drive is linked to mental standing.
Some pre-op transsexual women are ok about their penis some hate it and some are more positive.
Their sexual function seems linked to this starting position.
I was always ok'ish about the penis thing, while always detesting the look feel and presence of my testicles.
Someone touching them is yukky and for me a bit painful.

I still get hard, and if really turned on, get very hard.
{This seems unusual /rare for ts females, after years on meds}
Now here is something you don't want to hear:
I've shrunk by about an inch in length and a little in girth.
The problem is that getting very aroused really hurts.
Like a tire being over-inflated.
Ouch!

In summery
The majority of Ts women loose sexual penis function after prolonged hormone use.
Some Ts's still maintain sexual penis function after prolonged hormone use.
If you are on hormones for a substantial period of time,
and if you still maintain hard-ons, these will become painful.


One last thing
Offspring
Is there even the remotest possibility you want children at some future point?
Pre-hormones, I never considered this. This is not an issue for me,
but this oversight may have been....
If there is any chance you may want to pass on your DNA,
Prior to starting hormones,
Get your sperm frozen and stored by one of the companies who offer this.
It's not a permanent option though
as the sperm viability drops off significantly after being frozen for 5 years
After 10 years frozen, the sperm is not viable

[randolph]

Hi Jodie, I just watched a video of a tgurl who spurted abundant quantities of milk from her breasts and then wanked a nice quantity of cum. It was an amazing performance and a major turn on. Quite rare I suppose.

[JodieTs]

Originally Posted by randolph

Hi Jodie, I just watched a video of a tgurl who spurted abundant quantities of milk from her breasts and then wanked a nice quantity of cum. It was an amazing performance and a major turn on. Quite rare I suppose.

Name of performer?

[randolph]

Originally Posted by JodieTs

Name of performer?

Raven, at Extremetube.com. A very cute tgurl and she enjoyed squeezing her plump breasts and spurting milk!
She makes my limbic system go crazy.

[JodieTs]

Thanks Randolph.
A friend of mine did that as a party trick.
She used to do porn; ....curious.
{It's not her}

[candypops]

I had to stop hormones before having my boob job which was scheduled before my surgery. Quite honestly, it was the only time I ever had so much fun with my penis. Feeling my cock harden tucked in a lacy panty between my legs as I fondled my breasts brought about massive periods of masturbation. All said and done though, I'm still very happy I went through with the final operation and am very content with my body now representing what I truly am, a woman.

[randolph]

Originally Posted by JodieTs

Thanks Randolph.
A friend of mine did that as a party trick.
She used to do porn; ....curious.
{It's not her}

By the way, thank you for your very informative posts on the "reality" of transitioning. How the mind works is so mystifying.
I love being a guy and feeling horny. However, in the morning when I fix a cup of coffee I touch my little titties and they explode with this wonderful "girly" feeling. They become exquisitely sensitive and as I caress them, I get a hardon, then I feel really really good and super horny. I love feeling horny! I gently wank for an hour or so and then the testosterone calms down and I log into Transladyboy. I don't ejaculate and by saving it for weeks at a time, I remain energized and happy.

[stephanie82]

Thank you. I'm also about to start transitioning, and I'm happy this is being talked about. Sammi, thank you very much for your response. If you don't mind, can you elaborate a little?

Well I can give you me experiences on this matter. And just for clarification... I'm a non-op transsexual woman who started her hormone treatment in Sep. '09 and was subsequently taken off of them in Feb. '11 (my old doc was a ass), and just got back on them the beginning of June '11....
I was on 1 ml of delestrogen every two weeks (injected) and 100mg of spironolactone twice daily (after 6 months I cut that in half due to it causing me to be very dehydrated).
All that's added to my regiment is 100mg of prometrium (witch is a micronized progesterone)

Now what I mean by non-op.... is I don't plan on having srs (though I may change my mind in the future, you never know).
My reasoning for this is.... I have no problem with my penis. I can and still do get pleasure from using it (though I only use it on girls ).

For the year and a half I was on hormones I didn't have any shrinkage what so ever. My penis can still get fully erect and is the same length and girth it was before hormones (I know I measured ).
I think the reason for this is because I still masturbate on a fairly regular basis.... though not as often or with the same need I felt before hormones.

The major differences I've noticed are.... I can't really get fully erect to the same things I used to before hormones. Meaning porn isn't as satisfying as it used to be.
I've found for me to be fully erect requires the prescience of another person (who I'm attracted to obviously ). And when that is the case... my erection doesn't go down (as long as I stay aroused).
I've had sexual encounters that have lasted up to and beyond 4 hours, the hole time I'm fully erect. Though massaging of my penis can be painful during that time if no lube is used.

After the first month on hormones I stopped ejaculation completely. When I came.... no secretions came out. And my testes had shrunk to about a 1/4 of the size they were before hormones.

I'm devolving this information of my own experiences to give a better understanding of how hormones effect different people.
I knew of all the possible ramifications of hormone treatment on a male body before I transitioned. But I knew that transition is right for me.

What I'm trying to say is everybody is different. And there for hormones will effect everyone differently. You won't know how it effects you till you find out for yourself first hand.
And if you feel that there are side effects of the hormone treatment that you feel is unexceptionable.... Than I suggest you don't go through with it.


K... So I know my writing isn't very structured... It's hard for me to be able to express what I'm trying to say through the written word.... I'm much better saying it out loud.
So if you confused with what ever I've said here... feel free to ask for clarification... and I'll do my best to help you out. :D

P.S. If it wasn't for spell check... some of you would really dislike my posts

Miranda

Forgot to add... I don't view myself as being on "middle ground" I am fully woman no matter what I'm packin' between my legs. :D

[stephanie82]

Thank you ThirdEye!

[desirouspussy]

Originally Posted by JodieTs

My personal observation is that sex drive is linked to mental standing.
Some pre-op transsexual women are ok about their penis some hate it and some are more positive.
Their sexual function seems linked to this starting position.

That's interesting, Jodie! A transsexual lesbian friend I'm corresponding with is saying the exact same thing.
She is also saying that from what she has seen around her, a girl who's happy with her penis is very likely to maintain her functionality.
She herself has been on hormones for a long time too but she claims it has not affected her functionality at all. She is still also quite frequently experiencing spontaneous erections, which she has chosen to contain by wearing a special garment.
Apart from that, she says that she's also still ejaculating quite heavily.
She has suffered a little shrinkage though but since she was quite well-hung to begin with, that doesn't bother her all that much.

Originally Posted by GGadmirer

That's interesting, Jodie! A transsexual lesbian friend I'm corresponding with is saying the exact same thing.
She is also saying that from what she has seen around her, a girl who's happy with her penis is very likely to maintain her functionality.
She herself has been on hormones for a long time too but she claims it has not affected her functionality at all. She is still also quite frequently experiencing spontaneous erections, which she has chosen to contain by wearing a special garment.
Apart from that, she says that she's also still ejaculating quite heavily.
She has suffered a little shrinkage though but since she was quite well-hung to begin with, that doesn't bother her all that much.

Well I wonder if her regiment isn't wright... or if her body is just trying to compensate and produce more testosterone than the anti-androgen can handle.
The reason I'm thinking that is mainly due to that "She is still also quite frequently experiencing spontaneous erections", and the heavy ejaculations.
Though if it's just seminal fluid (clear) than maybe she just like her penis that much.

[JodieTs]

Or she is cycling her hormones {two months on, two months off}
to maintain functionality?

Originally Posted by JodieTs

Or she is cycling her hormones {two months on, two months off}
to maintain functionality?

WOW

Cycling seems really extreme to me. I mean the three months I had to go with out my hormones was not fun... And to imagine someone doing that every few months is.... just wow.

[JodieTs]

Originally Posted by ThirdEyeGirl

WOW

Cycling seems really extreme to me. I mean the three months I had to go with out my hormones was not fun... And to imagine someone doing that every few months is.... just wow.

Likewise.
But some trans porn performers do just that.
Their choice.

[desirouspussy]

Originally Posted by ThirdEyeGirl

Though if it's just seminal fluid (clear) than maybe she just like her penis that much.

Yes it's clear and fluid and yes.......she definitely likes her treasure. But are you saying that ejaculation is also linked to how a girl feels about her penis?

I'm sure she's not in the habit of cycling. She's been off hormones several times for different reasons and I know she didn't enjoy that very much either.

Originally Posted by GGadmirer

Yes it's clear and fluid and yes.......she definitely likes her treasure. But are you saying that ejaculation is also linked to how a girl feels about her penis?

I'm sure she's not in the habit of cycling. She's been off hormones several times for different reasons and I know she didn't enjoy that very much either.

No I wouldn't say ejaculation is linked to how a girl feels about her penis... I mean I quite enjoy mine... yet I don't have any ejaculate. (Except for the three months I was off my meds.)
Though I never really produced much seminal fluid to begin with... Even before I transitioned, I didn't pre-cum, and when I came it was think and very white.

Well than she may just have over active seminal fluid production. Seminal fluid tastes better than sperm anyways. :D

[Amy]

In my experience, after 9 months, I still get erections, but my girlfriend and I tend to refer to it as a "soft-on" nowadays, as it's still a bit flexible rather than the rigid erections I used to get. It's still good enough for vaginal and anal penetration though.

My testicles have shown the biggest decrease in size, the left is maybe 1/3 the size they used to be, while the right is about half.

My penis has gone from 6.5" erect to 4.75" erect, a 25% decrease in size, although unerect size remains the same.

As for ejaculate, the volume is down about 80%, and it's now completely clear.

Originally Posted by Amy

In my experience, after 9 months, I still get erections, but my girlfriend and I tend to refer to it as a "soft-on" nowadays, as it's still a bit flexible rather than the rigid erections I used to get. It's still good enough for vaginal and anal penetration though.

My testicles have shown the biggest decrease in size, the left is maybe 1/3 the size they used to be, while the right is about half.

My penis has gone from 6.5" erect to 4.75" erect, a 25% decrease in size, although unerect size remains the same.

As for ejaculate, the volume is down about 80%, and it's now completely clear.

Yeah my ex-gf could only achieve the "soft-on" as well. At the time she had been on hormones for a year and a half. But unlike me, she still ejaculated (and boy did it taste good . She also pre-cummed quite a bit.