Trans Ladyboy Forum

Go Back Trans Ladyboy Forum > General Discussion
Register Forum Rules Members List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Bookmark & Share

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #151  
Old 08-27-2009
sesame's Avatar
sesame sesame is offline
Senior Ladyboy Lover
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Around the world...
Posts: 1,143
sesame has a spectacular aura aboutsesame has a spectacular aura about
Cool Monogram

Ihesus Hominum Salvator (IHS) : some say that it stands for In His Service, but the truth is something else.

IHESUS HOMINUM SALVATOR

Its in Latin meaning, Jesus, savior of mankind.

In Greek, Jesus was spelt like Ihesus.
Attached Images
 
__________________
Your life is unique, cherish it. Do something with your life.

Last edited by sesame; 08-27-2009 at 11:53 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #152  
Old 08-28-2009
sesame's Avatar
sesame sesame is offline
Senior Ladyboy Lover
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Around the world...
Posts: 1,143
sesame has a spectacular aura aboutsesame has a spectacular aura about
Cool Very Old english

These are the Nineth century Anglo Saxon alphabets. Note that K, W, Y are missing and there's a new letter after T and there's an alien looking S instead of Z! To sum up, I must assume that the English alphabets were less than 26 at that time.

In the next picture, taken from the Library of Minerva, Rome, 9th century, K, W, X, Y, Z are missing. Again, there is an extra S. I think this S was pronounced like Z and was later placed at the end, where Z is now.
Attached Thumbnails
9th C Anglosaxon.jpg   Library of MinervaRome anglosaxon 9th c.jpg  
__________________
Your life is unique, cherish it. Do something with your life.

Last edited by sesame; 08-28-2009 at 06:08 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #153  
Old 08-28-2009
hansen hansen is offline
Apprentice Ladyboy Lover
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 34
hansen can only hope to improve
Default

Мамицу вам болесну свима педерчине изопачене што вас не побаци, но вас роди такве,све би ја вас од ува до ува разрезо
Reply With Quote
  #154  
Old 08-29-2009
Naked Freedom's Avatar
Naked Freedom Naked Freedom is offline
Senior Ladyboy Lover
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 418
Naked Freedom is a jewel in the roughNaked Freedom is a jewel in the roughNaked Freedom is a jewel in the rough
Default

Speaking of languages this question comes to my mind......
Which country has the highest number of recognised laguages??
I think it is INDIA
Reply With Quote
  #155  
Old 08-29-2009
ila's Avatar
ila ila is offline
Moderator
Shecock obsessed
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Canada
Posts: 6,294
ila has a reputation beyond reputeila has a reputation beyond reputeila has a reputation beyond reputeila has a reputation beyond reputeila has a reputation beyond reputeila has a reputation beyond reputeila has a reputation beyond reputeila has a reputation beyond reputeila has a reputation beyond reputeila has a reputation beyond reputeila has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Naked Freedom View Post
Speaking of languages this question comes to my mind......
Which country has the highest number of recognised laguages??
I think it is INDIA
I think that you are right, although I'm sure PRC is not far behind. I'm pretty sure that our esteemed and learned friend sesame will be able to give us a definitive answer, or perhaps Jenae may know.
Reply With Quote
  #156  
Old 08-29-2009
sesame's Avatar
sesame sesame is offline
Senior Ladyboy Lover
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Around the world...
Posts: 1,143
sesame has a spectacular aura aboutsesame has a spectacular aura about
Cool Indian Languages

The Total number of Indian languages, that are still in use will add upto 1,500 or more. That is because there are very twisted dialects of the same language structure if you move to different regions of the same state. There are 28 states in all.

The languages recognised by the govt. and spoken by the majority (more than 10,000) may be summed up as 122. And since there are 28 states, there should be 28 official languages, one for each state!
Well, there are 29 Main languages. Urdu, the Royal language of the Muslim poets, is also an Indian language.

The national language is Hindi. The name India is derived from Hindusthan. Hindu + Sthan meaning the abode of Hindus. The word Hindu came from the river Sindhu (Indus), on whose basin, the Aryan civilization grew up. In my opinion, the national language should have been Sanskrit, since it is the mother of all Indian languages.

Indian languages have assimilated many words from foreign tongues. They include Persian, Arabic, Portuguese, English, French, Turkish, Chinese, Greek, Roman and Bactrian (Bakhtar) (remember the Bactrians, Greeks, Greco-Bactrians who came with Alexander 325 BC ? They opened up a trade route with ancient India. Thats how Gandhara style of Art flourished.)
__________________
Your life is unique, cherish it. Do something with your life.
Reply With Quote
  #157  
Old 10-03-2009
basbaque basbaque is offline
Junior Ladyboy Lover
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 3
basbaque is on a distinguished road
Default

Parece-me que não há "falantes" de português neste forum.
(It seems there's no portuguese speackers in this forum.) Could be from: Portugal, Brasil, Angola, Cabo Verde, São Tomé e Príncipe, Moçambique, Timor and all over the world where the "diaspora" is.
Reply With Quote
  #158  
Old 10-03-2009
ila's Avatar
ila ila is offline
Moderator
Shecock obsessed
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Canada
Posts: 6,294
ila has a reputation beyond reputeila has a reputation beyond reputeila has a reputation beyond reputeila has a reputation beyond reputeila has a reputation beyond reputeila has a reputation beyond reputeila has a reputation beyond reputeila has a reputation beyond reputeila has a reputation beyond reputeila has a reputation beyond reputeila has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by basbaque View Post
(It seems there's no portuguese speackers in this forum.)
That's probably because this is an English site. People that come on here communicate in English. Any other language limits the number of people that are able to read what is posted; and why would anyone want to limit the number of people that can read what is posted?
Reply With Quote
  #159  
Old 10-03-2009
natandreita's Avatar
natandreita natandreita is offline
Apprentice Ladyboy Lover
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 39
natandreita is on a distinguished road
Default

Since I live in a Latinamerican country (Colombia) my mother tongue is Spanish. I majored in English Philology which is my passion, and hopefully will follow an specialization in English-Spanish translation. I also studied some French and Japanese.
As for French, Je le souvien encore. Je ne le parle pas, mais j'aime lire en Francais.
I have completely forgot all the Japanese I learnt.
__________________
Andreita,
From Colombia.
Reply With Quote
  #160  
Old 10-15-2009
BananaBanana BananaBanana is offline
Junior Ladyboy Lover
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 5
BananaBanana is on a distinguished road
Default

i am actially not.
Reply With Quote
  #161  
Old 10-15-2009
petreski petreski is offline
Junior Ladyboy Lover
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 10
petreski is on a distinguished road
Default

СИТЕ ВЕ САКАМ
Reply With Quote
  #162  
Old 10-15-2009
The Conquistador's Avatar
The Conquistador The Conquistador is offline
Senior Ladyboy Lover
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: United Socialist State of California (U.S.S.C)
Posts: 1,307
The Conquistador is a splendid one to beholdThe Conquistador is a splendid one to beholdThe Conquistador is a splendid one to beholdThe Conquistador is a splendid one to beholdThe Conquistador is a splendid one to beholdThe Conquistador is a splendid one to beholdThe Conquistador is a splendid one to behold
Send a message via MSN to The Conquistador
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by sesame View Post
Ok, Guys... and gals of course
what is written below?
Does it say Mazel Tov?
__________________
*More posts than Bionca*
[QUOTE=God(from Futurama)]Right and wrong are just words; what matters is what you do... If you do too much, people get dependent on you. And if you do nothing, they lose hope... When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all.
Reply With Quote
  #163  
Old 10-15-2009
Tread's Avatar
Tread Tread is offline
Senior Ladyboy Lover
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 270
Tread is a glorious beacon of lightTread is a glorious beacon of lightTread is a glorious beacon of lightTread is a glorious beacon of lightTread is a glorious beacon of light
Default

Mazel Tov: מזל טוב (good luck)
I think it's something like make peace, create peace or so. But I can't read a word. That's what google said me.
Reply With Quote
  #164  
Old 10-16-2009
Naked Freedom's Avatar
Naked Freedom Naked Freedom is offline
Senior Ladyboy Lover
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 418
Naked Freedom is a jewel in the roughNaked Freedom is a jewel in the roughNaked Freedom is a jewel in the rough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by sesame View Post
The Total number of Indian languages, that are still in use will add upto 1,500 or more. That is because there are very twisted dialects of the same language structure if you move to different regions of the same state. There are 28 states in all.

The languages recognised by the govt. and spoken by the majority (more than 10,000) may be summed up as 122. And since there are 28 states, there should be 28 official languages, one for each state!
Well, there are 29 Main languages. Urdu, the Royal language of the Muslim poets, is also an Indian language.

The national language is Hindi. The name India is derived from Hindusthan. Hindu + Sthan meaning the abode of Hindus. The word Hindu came from the river Sindhu (Indus), on whose basin, the Aryan civilization grew up. In my opinion, the national language should have been Sanskrit, since it is the mother of all Indian languages.

Indian languages have assimilated many words from foreign tongues. They include Persian, Arabic, Portuguese, English, French, Turkish, Chinese, Greek, Roman and Bactrian (Bakhtar) (remember the Bactrians, Greeks, Greco-Bactrians who came with Alexander 325 BC ? They opened up a trade route with ancient India. Thats how Gandhara style of Art flourished.)
Thanx, sesame for the info....some bit of research there....
Reply With Quote
  #165  
Old 10-16-2009
smc's Avatar
smc smc is offline
Senior Ladyboy Lover
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Boston area, U.S.A.
Posts: 18,085
smc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via Yahoo to smc
Default languages: one of my favorite non-TS topics

I can't believe I missed this thread for so long. I decided at a young age that I wanted to be a polyglot, and so languages became my academic specialty. I read some and read/speak others. When I was young, beginning at junior high school age, I spent a lot of time trying to teach myself to read new languages. I went on to study Classics as an undergraduate and then got a PhD in ancient studies, which meant learning most of the Canaanite/Semitic dialects of the ancient Near Eastern world (Akkadian, Hittite, Moabite, Phoenician, Chaldean, etc.), as well as Hebrew, Aramaic, and Sanskrit. I taught Ancient Greek and Latin at the university level. In addition, I have learned to speak and read German and French (fluently), and I'm reasonably proficient in Spanish and Italian. I can get by in Portuguese and Romanian, and lately I've been challenging myself with other Germanic languages (since English is a Germanic language, and I know German): these include Swedish, Norwegian, and Danish, which I try to read on a regular basis. I've never learned any Asian languages, except for a bit of Vietnamese when I volunteered to teach English to immigrants from Vietnam a long time ago. They mostly spoke French, too, but I insisted on picking up some of their native language.
Reply With Quote
  #166  
Old 10-18-2009
wolf-boy's Avatar
wolf-boy wolf-boy is offline
Junior Ladyboy Lover
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: From Ireland living in Japan
Posts: 10
wolf-boy is on a distinguished road
Default

I have quite good Japanese fluency!

日本語はすきです!
Reply With Quote
  #167  
Old 11-10-2009
curiousdude curiousdude is offline
Junior Ladyboy Lover
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Cyprus
Posts: 3
curiousdude is on a distinguished road
Default To further confuse you all

Dear all, after having lived in Malaysia, i have been exposed to malay, (both versions spoken in malaysia as well as indonesia), thai, chinese, indian (several dialects) and some other european languages. Nevertheless, i shall gloat about being able to speak any one of the above mentioned languages. I can only manage my life, food, shopping, etc needs if i were to be stuck in these places. However, i would like to share with you the main reason why i could not learn chinese. There are 4 main dialects of chinese language (dialect but each is completely different from the other) and the official version, which is called Mandarin Chinese. In general chinese language has roughly about 2000 characters, and each character is an equivalent of a "word" in our so called western understanding. However each character has 4 inntonations (ways of reading/pronounciation). Each pronounciation would mean something completely different. Furthermore, there are four dialects - Cantonese, Hakka, Hokkien, Teo Chew, which each has 2000 characters with 4 inntonations. In order to be able to fully speak Chinese (or consider yourself to be fully able to speak chinese) the formula goes as such:

(Mandarin X 2000 characters X 4 intonations)+(cantonese X 2000 characters X 4 intonations)+(Hakka X 2000 characters X 4 intonations)+(Hokkien X 2000 characters X 4 intonations)+(Teo Chew X 2000 characters X 4 intonations) = God Knows What....

I don't really know what is the outcome of this formula, however, if i am not mistaken, the equivalent of "tea" from Japan to Greece (including all other countries in between) is "chay" or a very similar pronounciation of "cha"...
Reply With Quote
  #168  
Old 02-28-2010
GRH's Avatar
GRH GRH is offline
Senior Ladyboy Lover
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: New England
Posts: 531
GRH is a splendid one to beholdGRH is a splendid one to beholdGRH is a splendid one to beholdGRH is a splendid one to beholdGRH is a splendid one to beholdGRH is a splendid one to beholdGRH is a splendid one to behold
Default

I've picked up a few books and audio CD's to try to brush up on my French. I took three years of French in high school, but I don't remember a whole lot of it, and I was NEVER good at hearing the language spoken.

I'd like to try to gain some French fluency so I can be more competent should I emigrate to Canada or France someday, something I have seriously considered.
Reply With Quote
  #169  
Old 02-28-2010
ila's Avatar
ila ila is offline
Moderator
Shecock obsessed
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Canada
Posts: 6,294
ila has a reputation beyond reputeila has a reputation beyond reputeila has a reputation beyond reputeila has a reputation beyond reputeila has a reputation beyond reputeila has a reputation beyond reputeila has a reputation beyond reputeila has a reputation beyond reputeila has a reputation beyond reputeila has a reputation beyond reputeila has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by GRH View Post
I've picked up a few books and audio CD's to try to brush up on my French. I took three years of French in high school, but I don't remember a whole lot of it, and I was NEVER good at hearing the language spoken.

I'd like to try to gain some French fluency so I can be more competent should I emigrate to Canada or France someday, something I have seriously considered.
I took French for six years in school and never really learned very much. A lot of the fault lies in the method of teaching languages in school. I learned more French in a few months out in the working world than I ever learned in the classroom. My hat is off to anyone that can learn any second language.
Reply With Quote
  #170  
Old 02-28-2010
The Conquistador's Avatar
The Conquistador The Conquistador is offline
Senior Ladyboy Lover
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: United Socialist State of California (U.S.S.C)
Posts: 1,307
The Conquistador is a splendid one to beholdThe Conquistador is a splendid one to beholdThe Conquistador is a splendid one to beholdThe Conquistador is a splendid one to beholdThe Conquistador is a splendid one to beholdThe Conquistador is a splendid one to beholdThe Conquistador is a splendid one to behold
Send a message via MSN to The Conquistador
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ila View Post
I took French for six years in school and never really learned very much. A lot of the fault lies in the method of teaching languages in school. I learned more French in a few months out in the working world than I ever learned in the classroom. My hat is off to anyone that can learn any second language.
Oh no! Our polar bear has become a frog!



Just kidding!
__________________
*More posts than Bionca*
[QUOTE=God(from Futurama)]Right and wrong are just words; what matters is what you do... If you do too much, people get dependent on you. And if you do nothing, they lose hope... When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all.
Reply With Quote
  #171  
Old 02-28-2010
ila's Avatar
ila ila is offline
Moderator
Shecock obsessed
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Canada
Posts: 6,294
ila has a reputation beyond reputeila has a reputation beyond reputeila has a reputation beyond reputeila has a reputation beyond reputeila has a reputation beyond reputeila has a reputation beyond reputeila has a reputation beyond reputeila has a reputation beyond reputeila has a reputation beyond reputeila has a reputation beyond reputeila has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheAngryPostman View Post
Oh no! Our polar bear has become a frog!



Just kidding!
Nope, not really. I can barely speak any French at all.
Reply With Quote
  #172  
Old 03-01-2010
shadows's Avatar
shadows shadows is offline
Dark Overlord
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Canada
Posts: 3,408
shadows has much to be proud ofshadows has much to be proud ofshadows has much to be proud ofshadows has much to be proud ofshadows has much to be proud ofshadows has much to be proud ofshadows has much to be proud ofshadows has much to be proud ofshadows has much to be proud ofshadows has much to be proud of
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ila View Post
Nope, not really. I can barely speak any French at all.
I got 50% in Grade 9 and then that was it for me since it was no longer mantatory to take.
Reply With Quote
  #173  
Old 03-03-2010
Leccapiedi's Avatar
Leccapiedi Leccapiedi is offline
Junior Ladyboy Lover
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: italy
Posts: 9
Leccapiedi is on a distinguished road
Default

nessuno parla italiano?
nobody speaks Italian?
Reply With Quote
  #174  
Old 03-10-2010
Kakariko's Avatar
Kakariko Kakariko is offline
Senior Ladyboy Lover
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Australia
Posts: 213
Kakariko is just really niceKakariko is just really niceKakariko is just really niceKakariko is just really niceKakariko is just really nice
Default

watashi wa nihongo chotto o hanashimasu.
Reply With Quote
  #175  
Old 03-10-2010
sesame's Avatar
sesame sesame is offline
Senior Ladyboy Lover
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Around the world...
Posts: 1,143
sesame has a spectacular aura aboutsesame has a spectacular aura about
Default Succulent Tongues

Quote:
Originally Posted by ila View Post
I took French for six years in school and never really learned very much. A lot of the fault lies in the method of teaching languages in school. I learned more French in a few months out in the working world than I ever learned in the classroom. My hat is off to anyone that can learn any second language.
What will you opine about someone who can speak 5 other languages besides vernacular? Eh, eh, eh, Monsieur Papa Bear?
__________________
Your life is unique, cherish it. Do something with your life.

Last edited by sesame; 03-10-2010 at 02:26 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #176  
Old 03-17-2010
SweetCheaks SweetCheaks is offline
Junior Ladyboy Lover
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Canada
Posts: 25
SweetCheaks is on a distinguished road
Default

My first language is German but I prefer to speak English. I tried to learn Russian when i was younger but i screwed up
Reply With Quote
  #177  
Old 03-17-2010
shadows's Avatar
shadows shadows is offline
Dark Overlord
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Canada
Posts: 3,408
shadows has much to be proud ofshadows has much to be proud ofshadows has much to be proud ofshadows has much to be proud ofshadows has much to be proud ofshadows has much to be proud ofshadows has much to be proud ofshadows has much to be proud ofshadows has much to be proud ofshadows has much to be proud of
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SweetCheaks View Post
My first language is German but I prefer to speak English. I tried to learn Russian when i was younger but i screwed up
You can speak two languages. That is still pretty good!
Reply With Quote
  #178  
Old 03-17-2010
rockabilly's Avatar
rockabilly rockabilly is offline
Senior Ladyboy Lover
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: At The End of the Longest Line
Posts: 943
rockabilly will become famous soon enoughrockabilly will become famous soon enough
Cool

I'm fluent in Elvish and Klingon.
Reply With Quote
  #179  
Old 03-18-2010
smc's Avatar
smc smc is offline
Senior Ladyboy Lover
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Boston area, U.S.A.
Posts: 18,085
smc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via Yahoo to smc
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by rockabilly View Post
I'm fluent in Elvish and Klingon.
Then you need to get out more.
Reply With Quote
  #180  
Old 03-18-2010
rockabilly's Avatar
rockabilly rockabilly is offline
Senior Ladyboy Lover
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: At The End of the Longest Line
Posts: 943
rockabilly will become famous soon enoughrockabilly will become famous soon enough
Cool

Quote:
Originally Posted by smc View Post
Then you need to get out more.
I gotta hit the conventions and bring home an Elven maiden.

I wanna be the "Lord of her Ring". lol
Reply With Quote
  #181  
Old 03-18-2010
smc's Avatar
smc smc is offline
Senior Ladyboy Lover
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Boston area, U.S.A.
Posts: 18,085
smc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via Yahoo to smc
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by rockabilly View Post
I gotta hit the conventions and bring home an Elven maiden.

I wanna be the "Lord of her Ring". lol
Yeah, I remember when I had my first beer.
Reply With Quote
  #182  
Old 03-18-2010
SweetCheaks SweetCheaks is offline
Junior Ladyboy Lover
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Canada
Posts: 25
SweetCheaks is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by shadows View Post
You can speak two languages. That is still pretty good!
Thanks to you, sir.
But I think English and German arent?t that hard to learn. There are languages like Japanese, Mandarin...you have to learn the "letters", the speech and the gestures. Thats a lot to handle
Reply With Quote
  #183  
Old 03-18-2010
smc's Avatar
smc smc is offline
Senior Ladyboy Lover
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Boston area, U.S.A.
Posts: 18,085
smc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via Yahoo to smc
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SweetCheaks View Post
Thanks to you, sir.
But I think English and German arent?t that hard to learn. There are languages like Japanese, Mandarin...you have to learn the "letters", the speech and the gestures. Thats a lot to handle
I have long argued with my students and others that German is the easiest language for English speakers to learn. In America, most young people think it is Spanish. But English is a Germanic language, and approximately 60% of English derives directly from Germany. I found it very easy to learn German and now speak and read fluently.
Reply With Quote
  #184  
Old 03-18-2010
ila's Avatar
ila ila is offline
Moderator
Shecock obsessed
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Canada
Posts: 6,294
ila has a reputation beyond reputeila has a reputation beyond reputeila has a reputation beyond reputeila has a reputation beyond reputeila has a reputation beyond reputeila has a reputation beyond reputeila has a reputation beyond reputeila has a reputation beyond reputeila has a reputation beyond reputeila has a reputation beyond reputeila has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by smc View Post
I have long argued with my students and others that German is the easiest language for English speakers to learn. In America, most young people think it is Spanish. But English is a Germanic language, and approximately 60% of English derives directly from Germany. I found it very easy to learn German and now speak and read fluently.
I do agree with you, smc. I found German very easy to pick up. The sentence structure is so similar that I was able to form correct sentences without having to think about it. It didn't take long for me to be able to think in German and when speaking or listening to German I never had to mentally translate between English and German to carry on a conversation.

Of all the dialects in German I like the Vorarlberg, Austria dialect the best. It is very easy to understand and native speakers speak slowly and clearly, enunciating their words.
Reply With Quote
  #185  
Old 03-18-2010
Tread's Avatar
Tread Tread is offline
Senior Ladyboy Lover
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 270
Tread is a glorious beacon of lightTread is a glorious beacon of lightTread is a glorious beacon of lightTread is a glorious beacon of lightTread is a glorious beacon of light
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by smc View Post
I have long argued with my students and others that German is the easiest language for English speakers to learn. In America, most young people think it is Spanish. But English is a Germanic language, and approximately 60% of English derives directly from Germany. I found it very easy to learn German and now speak and read fluently.
Did you compared it to Dutch, Danish, Icelandic, Norwegian and Swedish (also Germanic based), but the grammar could be more similar to English.
Or only compared with World languages, witch wouldn?t exclude Dutch.
Reply With Quote
  #186  
Old 03-18-2010
smc's Avatar
smc smc is offline
Senior Ladyboy Lover
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Boston area, U.S.A.
Posts: 18,085
smc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via Yahoo to smc
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tread View Post
Did you compared it to Dutch, Danish, Icelandic, Norwegian and Swedish (also Germanic based), but the grammar could be more similar to English.
Or only compared with World languages, witch wouldn’t exclude Dutch.
I read Dutch, which is in the West Germanic sub-group of Germanic languages, and thus most closely related to German and English. I find Dutch difficult to speak because of the odd, rounded vowel sounds; whenever I try, I sound really off. I also read Danish, Norwegian, and Swedish with varying degrees of proficiency, and can speak Swedish after I'm in Sweden for a few days (or my Stockholm friends visit). These are Germanic languages in the sub-group of North Germanic languages, also known as Nordic languages.

I would say from my own experience that Danish is the easiest of the North Germanic languages, because Danish strikes me as the closest to German of these particular languages, both grammatically and syntactically. Of the North Germanic languages, Danish and Swedish share a similar sub-sub-group generally called East Scandinavian. Norwegian, Icelandic, and Faroese are in the West Scandinavian branch, further removed from the original German.

Icelandic is an interesting case, because while it is Germanic in vocabulary, it has an inflectional grammar that's like Latin and even more like Old English.

You can probably tell that languages are of great interest to me.
Reply With Quote
  #187  
Old 03-18-2010
ila's Avatar
ila ila is offline
Moderator
Shecock obsessed
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Canada
Posts: 6,294
ila has a reputation beyond reputeila has a reputation beyond reputeila has a reputation beyond reputeila has a reputation beyond reputeila has a reputation beyond reputeila has a reputation beyond reputeila has a reputation beyond reputeila has a reputation beyond reputeila has a reputation beyond reputeila has a reputation beyond reputeila has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by smc View Post
I read Dutch, which is in the West Germanic sub-group of Germanic languages, and thus most closely related to German and English. I find Dutch difficult to speak because of the odd, rounded vowel sounds; whenever I try, I sound really off. I also read Danish, Norwegian, and Swedish with varying degrees of proficiency, and can speak Swedish after I'm in Sweden for a few days (or my Stockholm friends visit). These are Germanic languages in the sub-group of North Germanic languages, also known as Nordic languages.

I would say from my own experience that Danish is the easiest of the North Germanic languages, because Danish strikes me as the closest to German of these particular languages, both grammatically and syntactically. Of the North Germanic languages, Danish and Swedish share a similar sub-sub-group generally called East Scandinavian. Norwegian, Icelandic, and Faroese are in the West Scandinavian branch, further removed from the original German.

Icelandic is an interesting case, because while it is Germanic in vocabulary, it has an inflectional grammar that's like Latin and even more like Old English.

You can probably tell that languages are of great interest to me.
I read once that up to the widespread use of printing presses, when spelling was becoming standardized, that Dutch used to be considered a dialect of German.

I don't want to start an argument here about which is considered a language in its own right as the Dutch will claim, and rightly so, that Dutch is a language and not a dialect. There is also Frisian which I have heard some Dutch say is a dialect, but the Frisians will say that it is a language. I once saw a program on German television in which everyone was speaking Frisian. At first I thought that I was listening to English.
Reply With Quote
  #188  
Old 03-18-2010
smc's Avatar
smc smc is offline
Senior Ladyboy Lover
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Boston area, U.S.A.
Posts: 18,085
smc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via Yahoo to smc
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ila View Post
I read once that up to the widespread use of printing presses, when spelling was becoming standardized, that Dutch used to be considered a dialect of German.

I don't want to start an argument here about which is considered a language in its own right as the Dutch will claim, and rightly so, that Dutch is a language and not a dialect. There is also Frisian which I have heard some Dutch say is a dialect, but the Frisians will say that it is a language. I once saw a program on German television in which everyone was speaking Frisian. At first I thought that I was listening to English.
I have had the same experience with Frisian. It sounds very much like English. I won't take a position on the Dutch language or dialect question, but direct your attention -- just to muddy the waters -- to the question of Flemish.
Reply With Quote
  #189  
Old 03-18-2010
Tread's Avatar
Tread Tread is offline
Senior Ladyboy Lover
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 270
Tread is a glorious beacon of lightTread is a glorious beacon of lightTread is a glorious beacon of lightTread is a glorious beacon of lightTread is a glorious beacon of light
Default

Frisian is spoken in Netherlands, German and Denmark, and is close to Scots.
Wouldn?t that make Dutch and Danish as easy as German to learn? (if you didn?t leaned German first)

I for one had always problems with languages, I wish they were more logic and simple, but that would make them less interesting.
Reply With Quote
  #190  
Old 03-18-2010
ila's Avatar
ila ila is offline
Moderator
Shecock obsessed
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Canada
Posts: 6,294
ila has a reputation beyond reputeila has a reputation beyond reputeila has a reputation beyond reputeila has a reputation beyond reputeila has a reputation beyond reputeila has a reputation beyond reputeila has a reputation beyond reputeila has a reputation beyond reputeila has a reputation beyond reputeila has a reputation beyond reputeila has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by smc View Post
I have had the same experience with Frisian. It sounds very much like English. I won't take a position on the Dutch language or dialect question, but direct your attention -- just to muddy the waters -- to the question of Flemish.
You are muddying the waters, smc. I have known and worked with a great many Dutch and Flemish people. I would say that Flemish is only slightly different than Dutch, not even enough of a difference to call it a dialect. My Dutch friends, in my experience, would agree with me. My Flemish friends would disagree. I really don't want to take a side on this question and as I have a great deal of respect for all of the Dutch and Flemish friends that I have. I have been to both Holland and Belgium and I liked both countries. I did however often find Dutch and Flemish hard to follow.
Reply With Quote
  #191  
Old 03-18-2010
ila's Avatar
ila ila is offline
Moderator
Shecock obsessed
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Canada
Posts: 6,294
ila has a reputation beyond reputeila has a reputation beyond reputeila has a reputation beyond reputeila has a reputation beyond reputeila has a reputation beyond reputeila has a reputation beyond reputeila has a reputation beyond reputeila has a reputation beyond reputeila has a reputation beyond reputeila has a reputation beyond reputeila has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tread View Post
Frisian is spoken in Netherlands, German and Denmark, and is close to Scots.
Wouldn?t that make Dutch and Danish as easy as German to learn? (if you didn?t leaned German first).......
I can't see that Frisian is close to Scots. Frisian is a Germanic language and Scots belongs to the Celtic family.
Reply With Quote
  #192  
Old 03-18-2010
shadows's Avatar
shadows shadows is offline
Dark Overlord
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Canada
Posts: 3,408
shadows has much to be proud ofshadows has much to be proud ofshadows has much to be proud ofshadows has much to be proud ofshadows has much to be proud ofshadows has much to be proud ofshadows has much to be proud ofshadows has much to be proud ofshadows has much to be proud ofshadows has much to be proud of
Default

I feel like such a troglodyte reading through this thread.
Reply With Quote
  #193  
Old 03-19-2010
smc's Avatar
smc smc is offline
Senior Ladyboy Lover
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Boston area, U.S.A.
Posts: 18,085
smc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via Yahoo to smc
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ila View Post
You are muddying the waters, smc. I have known and worked with a great many Dutch and Flemish people. I would say that Flemish is only slightly different than Dutch, not even enough of a difference to call it a dialect. My Dutch friends, in my experience, would agree with me. My Flemish friends would disagree. I really don't want to take a side on this question and as I have a great deal of respect for all of the Dutch and Flemish friends that I have. I have been to both Holland and Belgium and I liked both countries. I did however often find Dutch and Flemish hard to follow.
That was my point precisely. I didn't express an opinion but only pointed a light on the Dutch/Flemish question. My experience is also the same with Dutch and Flemish people viz. how they would characterize their languages.
Reply With Quote
  #194  
Old 03-19-2010
smc's Avatar
smc smc is offline
Senior Ladyboy Lover
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Boston area, U.S.A.
Posts: 18,085
smc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via Yahoo to smc
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by shadows View Post
I feel like such a troglodyte reading through this thread.
I am resisting the temptation to write this post in a language other than English. Here, shadows, are some possible new avatars for you, offered with my best wishes.
Attached Thumbnails
43733941.jpeg   monstrous_race___troglodyte.jpg   troglodyte.jpg  

250px-Troglodyte_-_Sam_Wood.jpg  
Reply With Quote
  #195  
Old 03-19-2010
SweetCheaks SweetCheaks is offline
Junior Ladyboy Lover
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Canada
Posts: 25
SweetCheaks is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ila View Post
I once saw a program on German television in which everyone was speaking Frisian. At first I thought that I was listening to English.
Frisian sounds very similar to English. I can speak it too, but I prefer to speak Westphalian. Has anyone of you heard Saxon so far? Its the funniest German dialect
Reply With Quote
  #196  
Old 03-19-2010
smc's Avatar
smc smc is offline
Senior Ladyboy Lover
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Boston area, U.S.A.
Posts: 18,085
smc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via Yahoo to smc
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SweetCheaks View Post
Frisian sounds very similar to English. I can speak it too, but I prefer to speak Westphalian. Has anyone of you heard Saxon so far? Its the funniest German dialect
"Funniest" is definitely the right word for Saxonian, although my friends in Dresden would not appreciate that characterization.

The last time I was in Germany, I visited them and late one night we were on Theaterplatz, in front of the Semperoper or the Zwinger museum (I can't remember for sure). There was a guy dressed as one of the Saxony kings, doing a street show. He had torchbearers and even his "wenchy" mistress by his side. He was doing a comedy show about Bavarians. He explained how he had sent his ambassadors to Munich to help them, and they reported back to him about the Bavarians: "they are rolling in the muddy streets all the time, fighting," and "they drink their beer out of barrels with handles on them." I was in Dresden with another friend, from Munich, and she had to help me understand the thick Saxonian of his speaking (she also taught at the university in Dresden, part-time, and had come to understand the dialect quite well). It was really funny: as she helped me with the parts I couldn't understand, and realized the insults, she became more and more agitated until she shouted out something in Saxonian that was a real insult to the king. One of his guards came at her with his lance, menacingly, and then everyone cracked up laughing!
Reply With Quote
  #197  
Old 03-19-2010
Tread's Avatar
Tread Tread is offline
Senior Ladyboy Lover
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 270
Tread is a glorious beacon of lightTread is a glorious beacon of lightTread is a glorious beacon of lightTread is a glorious beacon of lightTread is a glorious beacon of light
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ila View Post
I can't see that Frisian is close to Scots. Frisian is a Germanic language and Scots belongs to the Celtic family.
I?m ungifted in speeches, for me, a middle strong dialect sounds like a different language, so I can only say what people told me or ask the internet. I even can?t remember if I ever heard someone speaking (Lowland) Scots.

answers.yahoo.com

Wikipedia Frisian_languages

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wikipedia Frisian_languages
?
The Frisian languages are the most closely related living European languages to English, although Scots is sometimes considered a separate language rather than a dialect of English, which would make Frisian the second most closely related.
?
Frisian is the language most closely related to English and Scots, but after at least five hundred years of being subject to the influence of Dutch, modern Frisian in some aspects bears a greater similarity to Dutch than to English;
?
mamalisa.com

Quote:
Originally Posted by mamalisa
Frisian is the closest language to English after Scots. Some people consider Scots a dialect of English. Considered thus so, Frisian is the closest language to English.
Reply With Quote
  #198  
Old 03-19-2010
smc's Avatar
smc smc is offline
Senior Ladyboy Lover
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Boston area, U.S.A.
Posts: 18,085
smc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond reputesmc has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via Yahoo to smc
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tread View Post
I’m ungifted in speeches, for me, a middle strong dialect sounds like a different language, so I can only say what people told me or ask the internet. I even can’t remember if I ever heard someone speaking (Lowland) Scots.
I think ila's two points, both of which I agree with, are that a) Frisian sounds like English, and b) it is not considered a part of the Germanic family but is a Celtic language. These classifications are made on a basis that takes the sound of the language into consideration only marginally, if at all.

Last edited by smc; 03-19-2010 at 03:31 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #199  
Old 03-19-2010
ila's Avatar
ila ila is offline
Moderator
Shecock obsessed
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Canada
Posts: 6,294
ila has a reputation beyond reputeila has a reputation beyond reputeila has a reputation beyond reputeila has a reputation beyond reputeila has a reputation beyond reputeila has a reputation beyond reputeila has a reputation beyond reputeila has a reputation beyond reputeila has a reputation beyond reputeila has a reputation beyond reputeila has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ila View Post
I can't see that Frisian is close to Scots. Frisian is a Germanic language and Scots belongs to the Celtic family.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tread View Post
I?m ungifted in speeches, for me, a middle strong dialect sounds like a different language, so I can only say what people told me or ask the internet. I even can?t remember if I ever heard someone speaking (Lowland) Scots.

answers.yahoo.com

Wikipedia Frisian_languages


mamalisa.com
When I referred to Scottish I actually meant Gaelic which is not accurate since lowland Scots is descended from Old English. Gaelic is part of the Celtic languages, but is not called Scottish. Rather it is often referred to as Scottish Gaelic, Scots Gaelic, and Highland Gaelic. Reference is here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_Gaelic
Reply With Quote
  #200  
Old 03-19-2010
shadows's Avatar
shadows shadows is offline
Dark Overlord
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Canada
Posts: 3,408
shadows has much to be proud ofshadows has much to be proud ofshadows has much to be proud ofshadows has much to be proud ofshadows has much to be proud ofshadows has much to be proud ofshadows has much to be proud ofshadows has much to be proud ofshadows has much to be proud ofshadows has much to be proud of
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by smc View Post
I am resisting the temptation to write this post in a language other than English. Here, shadows, are some possible new avatars for you, offered with my best wishes.
While those are very nice pictures and worthy of consideration for Avatarhood, I will be sticking with the one I am currently using.

Thanks for the funny pics, though.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:51 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright © Trans Ladyboy