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Does not being sexually attracted to post-op transsexual women, make you a homosexual man?
I'm a transsexual female (for the sake of thread clarity, pre-op) This is my response.
Leading on from the thread in this freebie section Called of all things"Postop shemales"]!!! Grrrrr..... Arrrgh! Do any of you lot actually know that there is a shorter term to describe a Post-op transsexual 'shemale' That term would be Female This is Danielle Foxxx's take: Responses to “Post-Op Danielle Foxxx Presents Her Pussy On Sex Change Tranny!”
That is very true. I am sorry I had to give up my cock in exchange for my true happiness guys, but it is what it is. Most of you are saying that the only reason why you liked me was because of my cock, now you will look for a hot woman and not little ol me? Dawwwmmm what a shame! I am extremely happy for all of my fans who liked me for who I was, my personality, sex appeal, my love for cock despite what I have in between my legs. Altho I love gay porn the thought of a man who I am intimate with sucking dick turns me off. It takes me back to all the unwashed, gross asses I have fucked in my life. LOL Real men love pussy – and they do – TRUST! Love you all still So yes any of you lot who don't like "Women who have a transsexual past" -probably are gay homosexual men in denial... Last edited by JodieTs; 02-06-2011 at 07:39 AM. |
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And most of us pre-op transsexual women aim to have SRS, at some point.
My friend had SRS in Thailand three months ago. Dr. Sanguan, click here Appearance wise her pussy is totally indistinguishable from a bio-female's pussy. What's more, what with bio-female partners, and sex fuck buddies, I've seen a lot of pussy. Hers is totally stunning, like one of the most beautiful, I've ever seen in my life. My comment is repeated by both other ts women who she has share this with {Flashing-the-gash, to other Ts's, just after SRS...is a 'Ts thing' } along with her local doctor {bio-female} who was curious. I've pointed out these two threads for her to look at but she doesn't do porn so don't hold your breath for a photo. |
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BLUSH Thank you sweetness HUGSXX and your are right, I won't be posting any photos
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Thank you, Jodie, for another wonderfully provocative and necessary discussion.
My sexual attractions are so wide-reaching, and I refuse to accept labels. I love the person, not the genitalia. The most lovable person is the happiest person. Happiness is often found (at least partially) in being in the right body. I think that says it all. Last edited by smc; 02-06-2011 at 07:48 AM. |
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yeah we all suck
this is the problem with this kind of attraction/lifestyle/fetish/what have you,
t-girls eventually want to become just girls , and we for completely selfish reasons want them to stay t-girls. I will say that ms. Foxxx Is hot cock or no cock, but I understand and it seems that she understands that her classification jump to post op is tough for her fan base. Ide romantically plow her in the most pornographic way with or without her cock, but I was surprised when I heard of her change to womanly status. all this begs the question, are there any t-girls who are happy and want to stay as t-girls? just to be clear im happy for her. |
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What you have to understand is that 98% of Asian tgirls are only doing the shemale porn/escorting For the money
Most will go back to being male and their family once their looks go and the money dries up This is also the case with many shemale porn/escorts, it's about money Then you have the ts's who only do the porn/escorting to pay for the surgery's to become (as far as possible) Just woman That leaves the percent that are most likely Tv's or Tv plus's ( had some surgery) not really Ts so happy to keep their cock Last edited by sweettsuk; 02-06-2011 at 09:55 AM. |
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Obviously not everyone feels the same way. I joined this forum to learn more about myself after I first discovered my interest in transwomen was more than simply curiosity. As I suspected, it was the individual that I was attracted to. Since then my understanding of many of the issues involved has increased as has my desire for a trans partner. However, my desire for ciswomen has not decreased. So my basic criteria are the same as before: a “connection” of some kind when we meet, shared interests, intelligence, personality, beautiful eyes, great body, long legs, nice ass… Nowhere on that list is there any mention of sex organs. Similarly the list does not preclude meeting a gay man with those same characteristics.
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Well, it is a varied answer. Up to quite recently, I really only wanted an orchy as I loath my testicles but the penis didn't bother me and was out of sight tucked, when dressed. But over the last year me thoughts have changed to just wanting to 'fix things' I'm not there yet. I had a drive to do some other surgery, which took 18 months from first serious consideration through research and consultations to have the surgery. From the start, I had an intense drive to do it and when I get the same drive{as I know I will} to have SRS then I will. |
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To answer the main topic, "does not being sexually attracted to post-op transsexual women make you a homosexual man?" I think the answer is no. I am attracted to post-ops myself, but I don't think it makes sense to call several of my friends, who aren't into transsexuals and, therefore, aren't into post-ops, homosexuals. Quote:
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I fully understand you. I'm not saying you're not being sincere in your post, I believe you are. I just want to point out that there's a specific attraction to TGs among all of us, after all the thread title is about sexual attraction.
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You are free to do the same with regard to a potential partner or why you are here on this site--and speak for yourself. It almost sounds like you are saying that transsexuals are "men" and those of us who find them attractive must be "gay." I would advise you not to go that route... I see you have just two posts--why don't you tell us more about you? Last edited by aw9725; 02-06-2011 at 01:36 PM. |
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Hey, I'm not saying I have knowledge of everything. I might be wrong whenever I speak. But still I can post my view. I'm not trying to speak for anyone. But if all we are allowed to do on the forum is agree with each other, there's no point in having a forum at all.
As for my posts, I have more than 2. I don't now why they aren't showing, but I'm sure I have more than 2. It might be because they are a bit old (february/2009), but I have written a lot about me in my first posts. But let's not go off topic. |
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I'm sorry, I seem to have erroneously registered twice on the day I joined. It's me "cannibal" and "CannibalMan".
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The idea that we are all somehow attracted to “the cock” is interesting and the way it is often asked on this forum typically implies a kind of closeted “gayness” that some of us aren’t admitting to. But I think the “gay or straight” question, and the suggestion that all transsexual admirers are really “gay” is too narrow--human sexuality is far more complex than that. It also implies that a “pre-op” transwoman--complete with her penis, is somehow less than 100% female. I consider that implication an insult to my friends and potential partners.
When I first became aware of my feelings I asked myself if I was somehow “turning gay.” I had been married for about 10 years at the time and I never had been attracted to another man. If you read my profile and other posts you’ll see I played football all through college. Been around guys my whole life--never had sex with one or been attracted to what could be called “male characteristics.” Over the last two years or so I have done a lot of reflection on whether or not there had ever been any guy I could say I had been attracted to. I actually did think of a friend from my dorm that was somewhat “feminine” in his behavior (he was from California--not “feminine” of itself but unusual at a mid-west school like Purdue, had very long blond hair, blue eyes, shaved his body and legs, wore shorts and tight t-shirts a lot, fan of the RHPS, very smart too--God I’m getting hot thinking about him… ). What I remember is that most everyone in the dorm thought he was gay. I was probably his best friend and actually saved him from being thrown in the Wabash River by a few guys in our dorm that had it in for him. When you are a 6’4” defensive lineman that can bench over 500 for reps you can stop people from doing shit like that. Nuff said… Anyway, I have always been accepting of gays and lesbians and naturally wondered that about myself. I currently have many friends who are gay and going back to when I was in high-school I had friends who were bodybuilders who were gay. But no, I’ve never had “those” kind of feelings for another man. Not that I would think it was bad or wrong--as I’ve said, if the right *person* came along... In less than a month, I will be getting married again but will still remain active on here--probably not posting so many pics of Rakel and Kelly and Kimber though. My “bride to be” knows of my activities here and in the LGBT community and supports it totally. I would suggest that those who still maintain the narrow (and I believe incorrect) view that we are all really “gay” get to know someone who really is trans or maybe read about some of the models and actresses we all worship on this site. An interview from years ago with Kelly Shore is one of the things that really helped me to put it all together and accept myself for who I am. The thoughtful posts of people like ila, Fran, smc, Bionca, Jodie, Hank H., and many others helped too. I think it’s entirely natural to wonder about these things--I hope we can continue to talk about them here and support each other. Last edited by aw9725; 02-06-2011 at 04:22 PM. |
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Hard to find showings of it now. The closest thing here was at the Indianapolis Museum of Art over a year ago and it was more like a picnic on the grass. Guess we are getting to old to dress up and throw stuff anymore! |
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It still shows EVERY night in Cambridge, Massachusetts, at the Harvard Square Cinema, at midnight. I've never gone to one of these showings; I don't find the idea of dressing up as a character in a movie particularly appealing, unless for a Halloween Party, but over the years I have had students -- some of my most serious students (go figure!) -- who have told me of being regulars at the screening. The outdoor throwing at the art museum sounds, well, simply bizarre. I guess that's keeping with the spirit of the film. After all, "it's just a jump to the left ..." |
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Anyone who does any of the / most of the / all of the: hormone/psych-doc/breast aug/face surgery/voice-training/living in their adopted gender for the rest of their lives is female. My point is that after SRS, it is totally wrong to refer to that person as anything other than female. Quote:
my point is that if a man is only into a specific trans-woman when they have a penis but are not into that same specific trans-woman, after that trans-woman has had their penis altered into a vagina SRS, as nothing else about the specific trans-woman has changed. then to me this says that man is only into penis's, and thus there may be a denial of stuff going on. |
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It stays in place and is not involved in any aspect of SRS |
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I'm not going to lie. I love the cock and I love the cum. But with that being said, if a girl gets SRS I'm not going to all of a sudden start to dislike her new body of work. Will I enjoy it as much as I used to? I can't say I would, but I'll still be extremely turned on. I mean come on, Danielle Foxxx's pussy is amazing. I like her pussy more than a lot of GG's pussies.
But for the people in those comments you posted, I wouldn't call them gay. But I would call them assholes. "I prefer a real woman"? Come on, dude.
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Yep, pretty much my thoughts as well, but I thought I'd float this thread to see if anyone bit!
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I agree with Ila, I am shecock obsessed.: inlove:
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For some time now I have this suspicion (again I might be completely wrong) that we are born actually without any attraction to any genitalia. At least when I was a child I remember not feeling anything for any type of genital, despite I already liked girls very much. If you think about it, both male and female genitals are kinda ugly. It might be an acquired taste. Today I am undoubtedly attracted to genitals.
Plus I've heard more than one guy that were strictly into GGs confess that they don't find the vagina beautiful. They love to have sex with it, but wouldn't stare at it. And I've heard even more GGs state that they find penises ugly and disgusting, despite they enjoy having sex with men. I'm not trying to speak for anyone here, just trying to find a possible explanation for the whole issue of attraction to transsexuals, even if partial. |
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Maybe yes, maybe no. A lot of stuff is learnt instead of born with us. Researchers seem to be far from elucidating the development of sexual attraction.
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Smc has made a very good point. One that I have been thinking about a lot today (OMG! that means a long post ). Most people on here tend to “overgeneralize” (is that like, even a word?) and assume that their situation, feelings, or beliefs apply to everyone else. There is almost never any hard evidence presented and what should be *questions* are often stated as fact. Also since I do not know most people on here personally, I cannot tell whether you are well educated, rich, tall, short, have a background in Psychology, are serving time in prison, really 12 years old, or someone’s grandmother. Same thing applies to me: I might be a high-school dropout, 5’4” 120 lbs, bench press about 75, never played football, ride a scooter--not a Harley, don’t really teach at a college--but the mental institution I was committed to lets me have a computer, and oh yeah, I might be an 80 year old woman too. Unfortunately this lack of “knowing your audience” contributes to why we have problems communicating on the Internet. In my professional life (you can figure out who I am if you try) I have written elsewhere about some of the problems with Internet communications. Additionally it is hard to discuss complex issues in what amounts to a form of “texting.” I much prefer “face to face” conversation.
I can only presume to speak for myself. If I say I think Kelly Shore is one of the most beautiful women I have ever seen and find her equally attractive with or without a cock it’s because it’s true--for ME. You need not agree with me but you do not have the right to question it or ascribe things to me that I did not say. If you find Kelly equally attractive then it would be nice to share that in a discussion. If you do not, then you have no business criticizing MY choice. You should either keep silent or share who YOU find attractive. We have a lot of different tastes and it can be fun to share what we like. Additionally, you have no right to impose your beliefs on others. If Kelly one day decides to have SRS, for example, then you have no right to complain that “I liked her better with a cock” or other childish nonsense. That is her choice alone as a woman. Please also spare us the tired and mistaken excuse that you were “only stating my opinion.” What are you? Two fucking years old? My dad would have whipped my ass if I had ever used that excuse after saying something inappropriate. There was one member a while back who kept insulting a certain performer and her fans using the lame excuse that he was discussing the “quality of her product.” Jesus Fucking Christ! Was this guy watching a hot babe having sex or was he buying a goddamn washing machine at Wal-Mart? So as far as the question of what attracts us to transwomen... I believe it is an important question and one who’s answer is crucial to self-understanding. I joined this forum in hopes of answering that question and have shared some personal anecdotes about myself and my own journey to self-understanding. Many other members have also shared very intimate details of their lives and we must be extremely respectful of each other. After all aren’t we all here for basically the same reason? As for the answer to the question: I think it differs for each of us and is equally valid as applies to who we are. I enjoy reading about other’s experiences and reasons. I have been helped by many of the thoughtful posts on here. Hopefully some of my posts have helped others. I see I am approaching 900 posts. As many of you know I am getting married March 5. I will probably stay around--maybe not. My fianc?e knows of my participation here but frankly I am growing tired of the disrespect shown toward other members. I would like to think we could talk like adults about such sensitive things--some of this is pretty intimate stuff. Imagine if you were in a group discussion talking about what you are attracted to--like in a therapist’s office or classroom or something. Would you be so insulting and disrespectful? I didn’t think so. Last edited by aw9725; 02-07-2011 at 04:44 PM. |
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At least for me its selfish, I want them all to keep their penises because I like them better that way. sorry about the we, I guess it's more "the royal we". so complicated. Still, good for her. "Im KenStar and I approve this message." |
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That is what people should focus on, not on what genitalia she has. And even with all those hurtful comments thrown her way, she still shows how classy she is by taking the high road. Danielle isn't a member here, but if she was I would let her know that she is an extraordinarily beautiful woman(I even like her tattoos and I am normally am not a fan of tattoos!). She deserves to be happy, and I am glad that she has found that happiness. |
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My adherence to The Iron Laws of Sexuality prevent me from being worried about such things as homosexuality or other such trivial sexual labels.
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