Body Swapping

[BoyNeedsGirl]

Does anyone else fantasize about completely swapping bodies with other people? For instance, waking up as your girlfriend / boyfriend and living their lives....

Also, why are people not researching brain transplants for this kind of thing? Who wouldn't want to at least try it?

[shadows]

Who's to say their lives would be any better?

Personally, I am fine with who I am, warts and all.

[send.the.love]

Originally Posted by BoyNeedsGirl

Does anyone else fantasize about completely swapping bodies with other people? For instance, waking up as your girlfriend / boyfriend and living their lives....

Also, why are people not researching brain transplants for this kind of thing? Who wouldn't want to at least try it?

We are a long way off before we do any fullscale brain transplants. The human brain is the most complex organ and we have have barely tapped the surface in discovering how it works and then some.

I don't fantasize swapping, but rather just waking up a new person. I've wondered what kind of woman I would be, and I've also wondered what it be like if I were more androgynous male.

"Swapping" is little too sophomoric for my taste.

[BoyNeedsGirl]

Originally Posted by send.the.love

We are a long way off before we do any fullscale brain transplants. The human brain is the most complex organ and we have have barely tapped the surface in discovering how it works and then some.

I don't fantasize swapping, but rather just waking up a new person. I've wondered what kind of woman I would be, and I've also wondered what it be like if I were more androgynous male.

"Swapping" is little too sophomoric for my taste.

The problem is, there isn't enough research into the brain but more research into trying to cure incurable diseases. If, say we spent more time researching the brain, we would have a better understanding on how it works and transplants would more likely be possible.

[smc]

Originally Posted by BoyNeedsGirl

The problem is, there isn't enough research into the brain but more research into trying to cure incurable diseases. If, say we spent more time researching the brain, we would have a better understanding on how it works and transplants would more likely be possible.

How in the world do you equate brain transplants and body swapping? Do you think that a transplanted brain from a person of a different gender would suddenly make your body different?

No disease is incurable. That goes against everything biologists understand. It may not be possible to develop the cure, but incurability qua incurability is a misnomer.

And as for brain research, perhaps you would be interested in a small piece of what is happening at my institution.

http://bcs.mit.edu/

http://mcgovern.mit.edu/

Brain transplants? Hmmm...

I've got visions of that old Sci-Fi cliche of the brain inside the jar, all wired up and talking (almost as if it doesn't know it's in a jar)

[TracyCoxx]

I've got dibs on a #6

[SluttyShemaleAnna]

Originally Posted by smc

How in the world do you equate brain transplants and body swapping? Do you think that a transplanted brain from a person of a different gender would suddenly make your body different?

???? Ummm, eh? Backwardsmuch?

Originally Posted by smc

No disease is incurable. That goes against everything biologists understand. It may not be possible to develop the cure, but incurability qua incurability is a misnomer.

Physics and Chemistry may have some contradictions there... Everyone's gotta die of something, and the laws of thermodynamics say you can't live forever.

[smc]

Originally Posted by smc

How in the world do you equate brain transplants and body swapping? Do you think that a transplanted brain from a person of a different gender would suddenly make your body different?

Originally Posted by SluttyShemaleAnna

???? Ummm, eh? Backwardsmuch?

What I mean, Anna, is not that a transplanted brain would fail to make one's body feel different. I am referring to the physical reality of the body. If a GG's brain were transplanted into my current body, I would not suddenly have a vagina.

Originally Posted by smc

No disease is incurable. That goes against everything biologists understand. It may not be possible to develop the cure, but incurability qua incurability is a misnomer.

Originally Posted by SluttyShemaleAnna

Physics and Chemistry may have some contradictions there... Everyone's gotta die of something, and the laws of thermodynamics say you can't live forever.

What I wrote does not state that I believe humans are immortal, as you imply. I simply wrote that the fact that we die of a disease does not mean that the disease "incurable." It may only be that we have yet to find the cure and perhaps never will. The word "incurable" is a misnomer; we should use the phrase "currently incurable" or "not yet curable" or even perhaps "never curable because we just aren't smart enough to figure it out." Disease is either an impairment of health caused by an external factor, which in theory could be eliminated (e.g., a cancer-causing agent in the drinking water), or an abnormal functioning of some part of the human body system, which in theory could be corrected so that it functions normally.

Nothing I wrote contradicts physics, chemistry, or the laws of thermodynamics.

[SluttyShemaleAnna]

Originally Posted by smc

What I mean, Anna, is not that a transplanted brain would fail to make one's body feel different. I am referring to the physical reality of the body. If a GG's brain were transplanted into my current body, I would not suddenly have a vagina.

If a GG's brain were transplanted into your body, you would be dead (assuming your brain goes in the mecical waste bin, not into another body), and she would now have a penis.

Brain transplant is a bit of a misnomer really, you are the brain, and you are getting a new body transplanted around you.



As for incurable disease, if you die, you must die OF something, so unless you get flattened by a bus, you are dead from a disease, and as you are dead from it, it's clearly not been cured...

[smc]

Originally Posted by SluttyShemaleAnna

If a GG's brain were transplanted into your body, you would be dead (assuming your brain goes in the mecical waste bin, not into another body), and she would now have a penis.

Brain transplant is a bit of a misnomer really, you are the brain, and you are getting a new body transplanted around you.



As for incurable disease, if you die, you must die OF something, so unless you get flattened by a bus, you are dead from a disease, and as you are dead from it, it's clearly not been cured...

Well, since with brain transplant we are discussing something completely hypothetical, and therefore with the assumption that it is possible to do without killing someone, I am going to stand by my post.

As for "incurable" -- I think I made clear what I meant. I did not contradict the notion that we die "of something." And the fact that a disease HAS NOT been cured does not make it INCURABLE qua INCURABLE -- i.e., NEVER curable -- as I wrote in my initial post. To say otherwise is to say that those who thought polio was "incurable" were correct for all time.

[SluttyShemaleAnna]

Originally Posted by smc

Well, since with brain transplant we are discussing something completely hypothetical, and therefore with the assumption that it is possible to do without killing someone, I am going to stand by my post.

As for "incurable" -- I think I made clear what I meant. I did not contradict the notion that we die "of something." And the fact that a disease HAS NOT been cured does not make it INCURABLE qua INCURABLE -- i.e., NEVER curable -- as I wrote in my initial post. To say otherwise is to say that those who thought polio was "incurable" were correct for all time.

Sorry, double fail.

Your post is still ass backwards. You talk about putting a female brain into your body, what you should be talking about is putting your brain into a female body. Your post made no fooking sense at all.

And the fact is, either humans die from disease, or humans are immortal. The fact that pollio people could not cure polio, and now they can does not preclude the existance of a disease that is impossible to cure ever. That's like saying, "they couldn't change a man into a woman in 1900, and they can now, therefore one day they will be able to make a person into a magical dragon."

[smc]

Originally Posted by SluttyShemaleAnna

Sorry, double fail.

Your post is still ass backwards. You talk about putting a female brain into your body, what you should be talking about is putting your brain into a female body. Your post made no fooking sense at all.

And the fact is, either humans die from disease, or humans are immortal. The fact that pollio people could not cure polio, and now they can does not preclude the existance of a disease that is impossible to cure ever. That's like saying, "they couldn't change a man into a woman in 1900, and they can now, therefore one day they will be able to make a person into a magical dragon."

It's really too bad that you choose to characterize my posts with insulting language. The fact is that I responded to the OP, who wrote about brain transplants generally (not specifically in one direction or the other), suggested there was insufficient research into the brain, and bemoaned that what research there is focuses on "trying to cure incurable diseases" rather than his transplant idea.

Of course, there is nothing that precludes the existence of an incurable disease. You would know that I agree with that statement of yours if you read my posts carefully. I am simply saying that there is also nothing that precludes that all diseases may in fact be curable but for the fact that we don't know how to do it (yet). Hence, I propose using different language -- NOT A DIFFERENT CONCEPTION OF THE OBVIOUS.

As for your last point, I think it wise not to be so dismissive of the "unbelievable" becoming reality. Where I teach and research, someone has invented a way to send actual tools by email that can be printed out on a laser printer and then constructed to do the functions of hammers and screwdrivers and saws. Someone else has created a nanotechnological system to implant a human self-generating air conditioner via a chip in the bodies of people who have to wear a lot of shit in the desert (e.g., soldiers in Iraq). Those things sound pretty unbelievable, don't you think? Whose to say definitively that magic dragons don't exist?

[BoyNeedsGirl]

I like how my thread has turned into a serious debate.... I should try to turn it back into whatever it was.

Remember in "Scooby Doo" the Movie when they all got that artifact and were transplanted into each others bodies? I got a little horny in that part.
Also, theres an Australian film called "Dating the Enemy" where a boyfriend and a girlfriend swapped bodies and had to adjust to life as each other. In the end, if I remember correctly, they go back into their own bodies and understand each other better . Theres something about this story telling device that just makes me.....well, excited.

Can anyone else name other films or TV shows where this sort of thing has happened? (Such as "Freaky Friday")

[smc]

Originally Posted by BoyNeedsGirl

I like how my thread has turned into a serious debate.... I should try to turn it back into whatever it was.

Remember in "Scooby Doo" the Movie when they all got that artifact and were transplanted into each others bodies? I got a little horny in that part.
Also, theres an Australian film called "Dating the Enemy" where a boyfriend and a girlfriend swapped bodies and had to adjust to life as each other. In the end, if I remember correctly, they go back into their own bodies and understand each other better . Theres something about this story telling device that just makes me.....well, excited.

Can anyone else name other films or TV shows where this sort of thing has happened? (Such as "Freaky Friday")

The 1991 film "Switch" sort of fits the bill. A chauvinist pig (played by Jimmy Smits) is murdered by his ex-girlfriends and is reincarnated as a woman (Elaine Barkin). It's a comedy.

[BoyNeedsGirl]

There should be more of these movies.... It really takes some acting skill to pull of being someone of the opposite gender..... It's kinda like the Victorian era where men played women and vice versa... Most of Shakespeare's plays did that.

Anyway, there was "The Hot Chick" with Rob Schneider. That was a pretty good film (Well as good as a Rob Schneider film can be). "Where do you hide your weed? Oh I don't have one of those"

[smc]

I recently watched a 2005 film titled "Zerophilia." Here's how the All Movie Guid describes the film:


About Zerophilia

Starring: Taylor Handley, Gina Bellman, Alison Folland

A young man who remains decidedly insecure about his masculinity attempts to uncover the mystery of his rare genetic disorder before it transforms him into a female in a sci fi flavored romantic comedy directed by Martin Curland and inspired by the studies of renowned Neuromorphologists Professor Czierny Ptolemy and Eva Szantova. Slowly immersed in a world where some change gender at will and others seem to make the transformation despite how hard they try not to, Luke (Taylor Handley) is forced to abandon all of his assumptions on sexual identity to focus on the one person he truly loves. ~ Jason Buchanan, All Movie Guide

[Hedonistman]

I saw Zerophilia bout a yr back,,thought it was too funny. Although no visual sex is shown I was surprised it made it onto regular cable tv....

[TracyCoxx]

I saw Friday the 13th a while back and there was this episode that caught my attention...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxZBc8SpA3A

[WudLuv2try]

Yes... body swapping... I do it in my head sometimes.

I imagine I swapped my body with an 18 yrs old girl...