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Commie... fascist... satan... who knows.
Usually the deal is "if you suck me Ill suck you". Since you invited Obama to suck you are you willing and able to suck Obama? Blacks have very big cocks you know.
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Okay Mr. Post, I would issue a word of caution. Tracy's cock may be desirable, however, you may be subjected to hours of right wing political rhetoric trickling down from the ultimate conservative spin machine, the Heritage Foundation.
And this is bad why?
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And this is bad why?
Well it could be distracting if you want to focus on the sensual pleasures of a fine tranny cock. Tracy has assured us that she would refrain from right wing rhetoric while being pleasured.
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But it would be killing two birds with one stone. Servicing a womans cock and "political re-education" except in this case, the shot does not go through the back of the head; it goes into the mouth
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Humm, I guess your saying that we could get politically re-educated with a load of tranny cum. An interesting idea. I guess we better be careful who we suck if we don't want to be re-educated.
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Wow, you would let LIBERAL suck it. Be careful, liberals are known for all kinds of naughty behavior and dangerous thoughts.
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Wow, you would let LIBERAL suck it. Be careful, liberals are known for all kinds of naughty behavior and dangerous thoughts.
This is, as they say, a teachable moment. I am fiscally conservative, I favor a strong foreign policy, but I am also socially liberal. I have mentioned this before, but no one believes me lol.
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Some more "lightsaber" training this young Jedi needs. Yes?
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You know how BO said for 95% of Americans tax will not go up? Forget that. Geithner just said the middle class will have to be taxed more as well. This is Obama's "No New Taxes!" moment. Luckily for him though, he controls the media.
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You know how BO said for 95% of Americans tax will not go up? Forget that. Geithner just said the middle class will have to be taxed more as well. This is Obama's "No New Taxes!" moment. Luckily for him though, he controls the media.
Oh well, I seem to recall Ronney cutting taxes and then raising them and Sr Bush saying no new taxes and raising them. This is nothing new all politicians are lairs when it comes to taxes.
"Hope springs eternal" that we could have a good government that does what "needs" to be done and leaves us alone.
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- By Kevin Drum | Tue August 4, 2009 9:42 AM PST

From Arlen Specter (D-Pa.), responding to Joe Sestak's decision to run against him in next year's Democratic primary:

His months of indecisiveness on his candidacy raises a real question as to his competency to handle the tough rapid-fire decisions required of a Senator.

Rapid fire? The U.S. Senate? Are we talking about the same U.S. Senate here?
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You know how BO said for 95% of Americans tax will not go up? Forget that. Geithner just said the middle class will have to be taxed more as well. This is Obama's "No New Taxes!" moment. Luckily for him though, he controls the media.
What a surpise, Taxes going up, Well we do have two wars to pay for and a huge national debit to pay off so of cousre taxes will be going up only a fool would start two wars and still cut taxes for the super rich


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What a surpise, Taxes going up, Well we do have two wars to pay for and a huge national debit to pay off so of cousre taxes will be going up....
Yeah, probably not a good time to start all those big spending programs. Oops.
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You know how BO said for 95% of Americans tax will not go up? Forget that. Geithner just said the middle class will have to be taxed more as well. This is Obama's "No New Taxes!" moment. Luckily for him though, he controls the media.
By the way, Obama denies any tax increase for the middle class. Lets hope he follows through on fucking the rich.

Also, I just watched the acclaimed video "The corporation". I would highly recommend it to anybody interested in understanding the role of corporations in our society.
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By the way, obama denies any tax increase for the middle class.
That's a big shocker there, why would he admit that he lied?
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Hey, does that include all the hollyweird people and the music industry names that backed his campaign?
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Yeah, probably not a good time to start all those big spending programs. Oops.
You mean like what W did with the GOP congress and senate from 01 thru 06? It seems as long as it's a program from the GOP to help the rich you are all smiles but any program to help the working poor you are against. Besides you are forgetting who created this mess GEORGE W BUSH and his REAGEN trickle down ecomics which only helps those who don't need help and leaves a hugh debit to be paid by everyone else

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What a surpise, Taxes going up, Well we do have two wars to pay for and a huge national debit to pay off so of cousre taxes will be going up only a fool would start two wars and still cut taxes for the super rich
Yeah, probably not a good time to start all those big spending programs. Oops.
You mean like what W did with the GOP congress and senate from 01 thru 06?
There was no financial crisis then. And what big spending programs did Bush start in addition to the wars? Wars that BO has decided to continue BTW.

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It seems as long as it's a program from the GOP to help the rich you are all smiles but any program to help the working poor you are against.
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Besides you are forgetting who created this mess GEORGE W BUSH and his REAGEN trickle down ecomics which only helps those who don't need help and leaves a hugh debit to be paid by everyone else
I don't see how you have any right to make those claims since you've made them several times over the last several months and have never provided any details on that. So cut the crap. No one's buying it.
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A lot will depend on whether Congress can stand up to the financial corporations. Things don't look very good at this point. The lobbyists are swarming into Washington with tons of money, the favorite food of our Congressmen.

If he can achieve a humane health care system, minimize our military involvements, come up with a reasonable carbon control system, convince us to save and be thrifty, invest in energy efficiency, create a transparent financial system and balance the budget, yes, even Tracy might admit he is a great president.
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If he can achieve a humane health care system, minimize our military involvements, come up with a reasonable carbon control system,

If he achieves any kind of health care system to his liking we're fucked. Who is saying we need this health care system? Yes there are a lot of people who are unemployed now, but you don't fix that by creating a permanent national health care system. We're not going to have these unemployment numbers forever. So to fix this temporary situation he's going to screw this country from now on and force everyone to accept a more expensive health care system with worse quality of service.


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LMAO!!! You want Barack Obama to show us how to save and be thrifty??! LOLOLOLOLOLOL OMG that's funny. Surely you realize how ridiculous that sounds.

As for transparency, his town hall meetings are staged, he pre-approves reporters questions, he insists on trillion dollar bills to be rushed through congress without time to read them. I see fewer signs of transparency than there were before.

If he balances the budget I will truly call him the messiah. Because that will be a miracle after what he's done to this country.
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If he achieves any kind of health care system to his liking we're fucked. Who is saying we need this health care system? Yes there are a lot of people who are unemployed now, but you don't fix that by creating a permanent national health care system. We're not going to have these unemployment numbers forever. So to fix this temporary situation he's going to screw this country from now on and force everyone to accept a more expensive health care system with worse quality of service.




LMAO!!! You want Barack Obama to show us how to save and be thrifty??! LOLOLOLOLOLOL OMG that's funny. Surely you realize how ridiculous that sounds.

As for transparency, his town hall meetings are staged, he pre-approves reporters questions, he insists on trillion dollar bills to be rushed through congress without time to read them. I see fewer signs of transparency than there were before.

If he balances the budget I will truly call him the messiah. Because that will be a miracle after what he's done to this country.
Yes Tracy, The chances of any of this happening is remote to say the least. That's why those comments were intended to be "tongue in cheek".

On the other hand, if Obama is so bad why is the stock market doing so well?
Some of my investments have fully recovered and others are on the way.
Answer: his priority is the financial system recovery using our money.
The rich guys rule and Obama knows that.
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There was no financial crisis then. And what big spending programs did Bush start in addition to the wars? Wars that BO has decided to continue BTW.

I'm for programs that help both.

I don't see how you have any right to make those claims since you've made them several times over the last several months and have never provided any details on that. So cut the crap. No one's buying it.
Sorry that i'm not as intrenched in a party as you are to have a excuss list and links to make W appaer to be one of the greatest presidents of all time behind Regan, Unlike you i see whats going on i get my news from the newspaper the Courier Post the main paper in South Jersey ABC local news out of South Phillie and CNN mostly Wolfe B and LOU DOBBS i don't pay attention to Rush or FOXX NEWS or search the computers bloggers so sorry i don't have these so called spin links that you love and demand. All this links you provided is mostly the same crap the goose stepping Bushies were trying to hand out in 04 and i'm sure those links have been updated since.


Now about W big spending programs rember his great drug plan for seniors? Yeah a program writen for and by the drug and insurence companies which offers little help and is only going to bankrupt medicare.
Now about Obama sticking with the wars, Obama is drawing a close to the Iraq war and he is stepping up in the Afgan war a war that was right but a war W didn't want and didn't care about as he was to busy with Iraq he let Afgan slip in to a big mess and he never did catch Bin- Laddin because i think he never wanted him captured
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From where I'm sitting, I think it's far too early for Barack to be judged or analysed through partisan eyes. He has one hell of a job in fron of him with Social Reforms, and the Senate are not likely to make that an easy ride. As far as international politics goes, the image of America ( for whatever reason ) has suffered severely in the last two decades world-wide, and this will not be changed overnight, especially in the face of sustained propaganda from America's enemies ( and, sadly, her ' allies ' too ).

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Sorry that i'm not as intrenched in a party as you are to have a excuss list and links to make W appaer to be one of the greatest presidents of all time behind Regan
If that's what you think I'm doing, you're not paying attention.

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Now about W big spending programs rember his great drug plan for seniors? Yeah a program writen for and by the drug and insurence companies which offers little help and is only going to bankrupt medicare.
HEY!! Congratulations!!! You are on the verge of actually backing up one of your statements. And you may actually have one here. I haven't heard of it. Can you give more details?

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Now about Obama sticking with the wars, Obama is drawing a close to the Iraq war
No, that was Bush that was drawing a close to the Iraq war after the surge worked. He and the Iraqi government already set a time table for withdrawal from Iraq. BO wanted to withdraw troops over 16 months, but it's more like Bush's plan now.

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and he is stepping up in the Afgan war a war that was right but a war W didn't want and didn't care about as he was to busy with Iraq he let Afgan slip in to a big mess and he never did catch Bin- Laddin because i think he never wanted him captured
The fighting was over in Afghanistan. Al Qaeda went elsewhere to cause trouble. They have since come back. Both Bush & BO wanted to return to Afghanistan to do another clean up.

As for the hunt for bin laden. Yes we must get him. But should we focus all our efforts on only finding him? It's easy for one person to hide and never be found. Do you think the conflict will be over if Bin Laden is gone? Of course not. Bush went after Al Qaeda. Given the choice, I'd choose Bin Laden without Al Qaeda rather than Al Qaeda without Bin Laden.
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I don't think it's too early. We're not just judging him. We're judging his policies. Policies that have been tried before and have failed.
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SWEET SURRENDER.... In this clever Kos item, Stroszek, responding to "cogent and potent criticisms" from the right, is prepared to offer Republican critics of health care reform a gracious compromise.

Over the past week, we have seen your passionate protests and heard your concerns about Democratic proposals for health care reform. We have considered your insightful and well reasoned arguments, and on behalf of progressives everywhere, I am here to say: OK! We give up! We are willing to compromise on the proposals that concern you. You've won! Yay!

Yes, in light of the provisions that conservative activists have demanded be removed from any and all legislation, Stroszek is willing to say, without equivocation, that under Democratic reform proposals, "We will not euthanize your grandmother." Democrats will also agree, among other things, not to let Rahm Emanuel's brother kill Sarah Palin's baby, not to nationalize hospitals, not to "provide illegal immigrants with unlimited free health care," not to eliminate private insurance, and not to establish "a super-secret-awesome health care program for ACORN employees."

With these concessions having been made, I trust that we can now move forward on health care reform with a broad, bipartisan consensus. Blue Dogs and Republicans, you can now rest easy knowing that the concerns of the town hall protesters have been met. While the progressive dream of a nation in which old people are slaughtered to pay for the abortions of ACORN-employed illegal immigrants will again have to be deferred, we are willing to settle for a bill without these measures in the name of bipartisanship. Congratulations, Republicans. You've won this round.

The right sure knows how to drive a hard bargain, but I can live with these painful concessions, giving up these long-held liberal goals.

Compromise is all about give and take, and Democrats, no matter how much they want to euthanize grandmothers or reward ACORN employees, should be prepared to accept these concessions. Republicans, who seem to take these concerns very seriously, should be thrilled.

Can we pass reform now?
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The fighting in Afghanistan was never over. Al Qaida was driven and so was the Taliban. The Taliban have been waging an insurgency ever since 2002. It has been stronger at some times than at other times, but it has never died out.
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The fighting in Afghanistan was never over. Al Qaida was driven and so was the Taliban. The Taliban have been waging an insurgency ever since 2002. It has been stronger at some times than at other times, but it has never died out.
That's true, it's interesting to note that Afganistan has never actually been conquered by an outside force.
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....it's interesting to note that Afganistan has never actually been conquered by an outside force.
It has been. Alexander the Great conquered the area and about 16 centuries after him the Mongols did also. Of course the country of Afghanistan didn't exist then. The various areas were under tribal control.
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It has been. Alexander the Great conquered the area and about 16 centuries after him the Mongols did also. Of course the country of Afghanistan didn't exist then. The various areas were under tribal control.
What I ment, was the people of that region have never been subdued. Their lands may have been occupied, but they themselves have never been beaten.
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The reality of Obama's policies are finally starting to dawn on the majority of Americans. 47% approve, 52% disapprove
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Your graph is from Rassmussen. This one is from Gallup. Who shall be believe?
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Your graph is from Rassmussen. This one is from Gallup. Who shall be believe?
Ok, the average approval rating between the polls is 50%. It won't be long.
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Ok, the average approval rating between the polls is 50%. It won't be long.
If Obama caves in to big Pharma I will be very discouraged.
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THEY'VE BEEN WRONG FOR A VERY LONG TIME.... The benefits of hindsight can make opponents of popular measures look quite silly years later. Republican arguments against Medicare seem ridiculous now, but were intense at the time. Republican arguments against Clinton's economic policies are almost laughable now, but were widely believed at the time.

And Republican arguments against Social Security, as Nancy Altman explained today, seem awfully familiar 74 years later.

Though no one was talking about "death panels" back then, opponents claimed that Social Security would result in massive government control. A Republican congressman from New York, for example, charged: "The lash of the dictator will be felt, and 25 million free American citizens will for the first time submit themselves to a fingerprint test."

Another New York congressman put it this way: "The bill opens the door and invites the entrance into the political field of a power so vast, so powerful as to threaten the integrity of our institutions and to pull the pillars of the temple down upon the heads of our descendants." A Republican senator from Delaware claimed that Social Security would "end the progress of a great country and bring its people to the level of the average European."

Today, opponents of a public health insurance option claim that it would drive private health insurance out of business and put a bureaucrat between doctors and patients. Back then, opponents of Social Security warned that it would "establish a bureaucracy in the field of insurance in competition with private business" that would "destroy" private pensions.

Then as now, opponents played the socialism card.

It wasn't just Social Security. When FDR tackled health care reform, the right condemned "the socialization of medicine," and the AMA said Roosevelt's plans were "un-American."

The difference, of course, is that most Americans rejected the nonsense, and welcomed FDR's reforms. Republicans of that era, similar to the Republicans of the current era, had failed so spectacularly at governing, their ideas had been thoroughly discredited. The conservative activists of the time struggled to convince the public to reject Roosevelt's agenda.

Altman recommends that Obama follow FDR's example. The problem is, Obama already has. Roosevelt anticipated Republican attacks, and told Americans the truth is speeches and fire-side chats. Obama has done the same thing. The difference is, FDR didn't have to overcome a Republican Propaganda Machine.
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What do other Brits think ? This thread is a really interesting one ! Keep posting ! !
Personally, I think that the American right wing barracking of Obama (excuse the pun) so early into his Presidency, and in light of the enormous challenges he faces (thanks in part to his inept Republican predecessor), borders on the shameful.

The right wing and general public's response to Obama's proposed healthcare reforms has been an outright disgrace, even dragging the name of America's closest ally through the mire, just to try and further discredit Obama... I find it astonishing that dumb and not-so-dumb Americans alike are jumping on the bandwagon to criticise a healthcare system that they have absolutely no experience of, and know very little about... as far as I'm concerned, the NHS is one of the crowning achievements of Western society. It may not be perfect, but at least it is based on the principle of EQUALITY (not Socialism), something that the Amercian right wing seems desperate to avoid in their country. For that reason alone, I say thank God I'm not American. I find myself thinking: "can't Americans see the overwhelming need for this sort of reform in their country, to improve the lot of the tens of millions of poor and disadvantaged when it comes to healthcare?"

I'm not saying that Obama is and will always be right, but given the unique set of circumstances he currently faces, he can't be judged for another year or two at least, and I think the majority of Americans should be applauding his intentions, especially after the Bush years. And this whole business about Americans slagging off the NHS really has annoyed me, especially given the fact that us Brits actually have a slightly higher life expectancy across the board compared to our US counterparts. There, that's my two cents lol.

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And Republican arguments against Social Security, as Nancy Altman explained today, seem awfully familiar 74 years later.
Social security basically has the current working population paying for the current retired's retirement. But the thing about populations, that anyone with a brain knows (i.e. not a politician) is that populations grow exponentially.

dN
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where r is the rate of natural increase (about .6% for the US), t is time, N is the number of people in a population at a given instant. N = N0 * Exp(rt)

The rate that a population increases depends on r, but it is exponential. Which, when applied to social security means that the working population will have to pay exponentially more tax to support the retired population. Meaning the rate will start off manageable at first. It will raise a bit later. And eventually will start to sky rocket. It will become impossible to sustain.
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It will raise a bit later. And eventually will start to sky rocket. It will become impossible to sustain.
Something like this...
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Something like this...
This data needs to be compared to the gross national product to be meaningful. The country has also grown dramatically (exponentially?) over the years.
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Social Security is a scam. Who the hell would want the federal government AKA:"clusterfuck" to tell you how to save money?
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THE PENANCE HAS NOT BEEN PAID.... Following up on this item from yesterday, I had an interesting conversation via email yesterday with Bruce Bartlett, a veteran of the Reagan and H.W. Bush administrations. Bruce made a point that really resonated with me, and he was gracious enough to allow me to republish it here.

I believe that political parties should do penance for their mistakes and just losing power is not enough. Part of that involves understanding why those mistakes were made and how to prevent them from happening again. Republicans, however, have done no penance. They just pretend that they did nothing wrong. But until they do penance they don't deserve any credibility and should be ignored until they do. That's what my attacks on Bush are all about. I want Republicans to admit they were wrong about him, accept blame for his mistakes, and take some meaningful action to keep them from happening again. Bush should be treated as a pariah, as Richard Nixon was for many years until he rebuilt his credibility by more or less coming clean about Watergate with David Frost and writing a number of thoughtful books.

One reason this isn't happening is because the media don't treat Republicans as if they are discredited. On the contrary, they often seem to be treated as if they have more credibility than the administration. Just look at the silly issue of death panels. The media should have laughed it out the window, ridiculed it or at least ignored it once it was determined that there was no basis to the charge. Instead, those making the most outlandish charges are treated with deference and respect, while those that actually have credibility on the subject are treated as equals at best and often with deep skepticism, as if they are the ones with an ax to grind.

I am truly baffled by this situation, as I'm sure you are.

As regular readers may imagine, I find this overwhelmingly persuasive. Bush/Cheney policies failed so spectacularly, Republican candidates and officeholders are generally reluctant to associate themselves with the tarnished name of the previous administration. But Bush/Cheney policies are still those of the contemporary Republican Party. Nothing has changed. Failure and defeat haven't chastened the GOP at all, and if given a chance to govern again, Republican leaders are quite anxious to return to the exact same agenda they embraced when they were in the majority.
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Let's give a warm welcome to John Holdren - Science Czar and director of the White House's Office of Science and Technology Policy

Dr Holden, can you please tell us some of your ideas?

"The fetus, given the opportunity to develop properly before birth, and given the essential early socializing experiences and sufficient nourishing food during the crucial early years after birth, will ultimately develop into a human being," Holdren wrote in "Human Ecology," a 1973 textbook he co-authored with environmental activists Paul and Anne Ehrlich.

Holdren heralded a "tightly reasoned essay" by law professor Christopher Stone, who said, "I am quite seriously proposing that we give legal rights to forests, oceans, rivers and other so-called 'natural objects' in the environment -- indeed, to the natural environment as a whole." Holdren, writing in 1977's "Ecoscience," which was also co-authored with Paul and Anne Ehrlich

In a future society, "It would even be possible to require pregnant single women to marry or have abortions, perhaps as an alternative to placement for adoption, depending on the society," Holdren and his co-authors wrote.

Another "coercive fertility control" program floated by Holdren involved "the development of a long-term sterilizing capsule that could be implanted under the skin and removed when pregnancy is desired ... The capsule could be implanted at puberty and might be removable, with official permission, for a limited number of births."

"Adding a sterilant to drinking water or staple foods is a suggestion that seems to horrify people more than most proposals for involuntary fertility control. Indeed, this would pose some very difficult political, legal, and social questions, to say nothing of the technical problems," Holdren wrote in "Ecoscience."

To help achieve their goals, Holdren and the Ehrlichs formulated a "world government scheme" they called the Planetary Regime, which would administer the world's resources and human growth. They also discussed the development of an "armed international organization, a global analogue of a police force" to which nations would surrender part of their sovereignty.
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Nature has a very simple way of controlling populations, its called STARVATION. If humans aren't willing or able to control their population, then nature will eventually do it for us. We are still totally dependent on agriculture for food and our ability to produce it is limited.
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Warren Buffett (an Obama supporter and indirect beneficiary of the stimulus packages) wrote this in the NY Times:

[quote = "Warren Buffett"]The United States economy is now out of the emergency room and appears to be on a slow path to recovery. But enormous dosages of monetary medicine continue to be administered and, before long, we will need to deal with their side effects. For now, most of those effects are invisible and could indeed remain latent for a long time. Still, their threat may be as ominous as that posed by the financial crisis itself.

To understand this threat, we need to look at where we stand historically. If we leave aside the war-impacted years of 1942 to 1946, the largest annual deficit the United States has incurred since 1920 was 6 percent of gross domestic product. This fiscal year, though, the deficit will rise to about 13 percent of G.D.P., more than twice the non-wartime record. In dollars, that equates to a staggering $1.8 trillion. Fiscally, we are in uncharted territory.

Because of this gigantic deficit, our country's "net debt" (that is, the amount held publicly) is mushrooming. During this fiscal year, it will increase more than one percentage point per month, climbing to about 56 percent of G.D.P. from 41 percent. Admittedly, other countries, like Japan and Italy, have far higher ratios and no one can know the precise level of net debt to G.D.P. at which the United States will lose its reputation for financial integrity. But a few more years like this one and we will find out.

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Even with these heroic assumptions [on the part of other countries buying our debt and Amercan people actually donating their savings to the treasury], the Treasury will be obliged to find another $900 billion to finance the remainder of the $1.8 trillion of debt it is issuing. Washington's printing presses will need to work overtime.

Slowing them down will require extraordinary political will. With government expenditures now running 185 percent of receipts, truly major changes in both taxes and outlays will be required. A revived economy can't come close to bridging that sort of gap.

Legislators will correctly perceive that either raising taxes or cutting expenditures will threaten their re-election. To avoid this fate, they can opt for high rates of inflation, which never require a recorded vote and cannot be attributed to a specific action that any elected official takes. In fact, John Maynard Keynes long ago laid out a road map for political survival amid an economic disaster of just this sort: "By a continuing process of inflation, governments can confiscate, secretly and unobserved, an important part of the wealth of their citizens.... The process engages all the hidden forces of economic law on the side of destruction, and does it in a manner which not one man in a million is able to diagnose."[/quote]

So get ready for inflation high enough to move over a $trillion from the American public (I know he says $900 billion, but I don't think anyone seriously believes the American public will fork over their savings to the treasury).
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...with words like that. My goodness, I would suck you on the soapbox, in the soapbox, next to the soapbox, with the soapbox in the other room staring at me with its angry, sullen eyes, with the soapbox hanging over my head like the national debt hanging over our grandchildren's heads, with the.....ok, ok, I am digressing, but I think you get the point.

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This is, as they say, a teachable moment. I am fiscally conservative, I favor a strong foreign policy, but I am also socially liberal. I have mentioned this before, but no one believes me lol.
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