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According to the Brits, plastics feminize males.


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Male hormones drive boyish play
Chemicals in plastics alter the brains of baby boys, making them "more feminine", say US researchers.

Males exposed to high doses in the womb went on to be less likely to play with boys' toys like cars or to join in rough and tumble games, they found.

The University of Rochester team's latest work adds to concerns about the safety of phthalates, found in vinyl flooring and PVC shower curtains.

The findings are reported in the International Journal of Andrology.

Plastic furniture

Phthalates have the ability to disrupt hormones, and have been banned in toys in the EU for some years.

However, they are still widely used in many different household items, including plastic furniture and packaging.

There are many different types and some mimic the female hormone oestrogen.

This feminising capacity of phthalates makes them true 'gender benders'

Elizabeth Salter-Green, director of CHEM Trust
The same researchers have already shown that this can mean boys are born with genital abnormalities.

Now they say certain phthalates also impact on the developing brain, by knocking out the action of the male hormone testosterone.

Dr Shanna Swan and her team tested urine samples from mothers over midway through pregnancy for traces of phthalates.

The women, who gave birth to 74 boys and 71 girls, were followed up when their children were aged four to seven and asked about the toys the youngsters played with and the games they enjoyed.

Girls' play

They found that two phthalates DEHP and DBP can affect play behaviour.

Boys exposed to high levels of these in the womb were less likely than other boys to play with cars, trains and guns or engage in "rougher" games like playfighting.

PHTHALATES
There are many different types and the most commonly used are deemed entirely safe by regulators
DEHP - used to make PVC soft and pliable and used in products like flooring
DBP - used as a plasticiser in glues, dyes and textiles
Elizabeth Salter-Green, director of the chemicals campaign group CHEM Trust, said the results were worrying.

"We now know that phthalates, to which we are all constantly exposed, are extremely worrying from a health perspective, leading to disruption of male reproduction health and, it appears, male behaviour too.

"This feminising capacity of phthalates makes them true 'gender benders'."

She acknowledged that the boys who have been studied were still young, but she said reduced masculine play at this age might lead to other feminised developments in later life.

But Tim Edgar, of the European Council for Plasticisers and Intermediates, said: "We need to get some scientific experts to look at this study in more detail before we can make a proper judgement."

He said there were many different phthalates in use and the study concerned two of the less commonly used types that were on the EU candidate list as potentially hazardous and needing authorisation for use.

DBP has been banned from use in cosmetics, such as nail varnish, since 2005 in the EU.

The British Plastics Federation said: "Chemical safety is of paramount importance to the plastics industry which has invested heavily in researching the substances it uses.

"Moreover, the new European Chemical Regulation, REACH, will ensure further rigorous evaluation and testing or chemical substances and their uses."

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Is this a true study? Or someone's idea of a joke as i dout plastic exposure made me Jennifer
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Is this a true study? Or someone's idea of a joke as i dout plastic exposure made me Jennifer
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It was a study done about the effects of chemicals in plastics and how they react with your hormones at a young age.

Of course not Jen. However, it wouldn't be a stretch to say that exposing newborns and toddlers to chemicals can have a variety of effects on them. Recent studies have shown that residues from plastics may be a cause of diabetes*(or as Wilford Brimley says,"DIABEETUS")in people.




Some links:

http://kidshealth.org/research/phthalates.html

http://www.cdc.gov/exposurereport/pd...phthalates.pdf

http://www.ourstolenfuture.org/NewSc...27swanetal.htm




*Diabeetus from plastics
http://health.usnews.com/articles/he...-plastics.html
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If this were true, I'd been a woman long ago.

Now, if you'll please excuse me, I have a sudden urge to smell some flowers.
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If this were true, I'd been a woman long ago.

Now, if you'll please excuse me, I have a sudden urge to smell some flowers.
I think what they were trying to get at was the progressive and cumulative effects over time, not just a generational occurence but what can possibly happen over generations with repeated exposure. Kinda like the copy machine effect where if you make a copy of a copy and then make a copy of the one you just made and so on and so forth, you are bound to run into some degradations or problems.
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The artificial hormones affect directly and over life. They raise the amount of female hormones in the body. Depending how sensible every individual is to the hormones, the relation between male and female hormones, and at what developing state the human is, it influences people. Female and male could get more female shapes, males can get less good sperm, and in early brain development it could support a female brain in a male developing body.
The biggest effects happen at pre birth and childhood.

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The artificial hormones affect directly and over life. They raise the amount of female hormones in the body. Depending how sensible every individual is to the hormones, the relation between male and female hormones, and at what developing state the human is, it influences people. Female and male could get more female shapes, males can get less good sperm, and in early brain development it could support a female brain in a male developing body.
The biggest effects happen at pre birth and childhood.
This about sums it up. Set against this the tendency for British newspapers to sensationalise genuine observations and research in order to sell copy. I mean how many times over the past five years have they switched their stance over the use of Aspirin and salicylates in Preventative Medicine ? I've lost count ! !

Here we have two sets of observations, one in the animal world among freshwater fish, and the other in the human world with its obsessive use of statistics, and a totally unproved hypothesis being constructed out of it as a result eagerly seized upon by a ravening Press. Ugh ! !

OK. How about this then : Never mind the Phthalates, how about their chemical kindred the Phthaleins ? They result in rampant diarrhoea in humans, so when I'm constipated perhaps I'd better chew some plastic ! How ridiculous an assumption is that ? Only slightly less ridiculous than the ones made about other chemical derivatives.
Trouble is, the Media can't wait for genuine research to run its course before feverishly rushing to Press.

I'd be a lot more worried about Fluorocarbons in the Environment, myself.

Hey - and who's to say that a little more Bi-sexuality mighn't be a lot more fun ?

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Here we have two sets of observations, one in the animal world among freshwater fish, and the other in the human world with its obsessive use of statistics, and a totally unproved hypothesis being constructed out of it as a result eagerly seized upon by a ravening Press. Ugh ! !

OK. How about this then : Never mind the Phthalates, how about their chemical kindred the Phthaleins ? They result in rampant diarrhoea in humans, so when I'm constipated perhaps I'd better chew some plastic ! How ridiculous an assumption is that ? Only slightly less ridiculous than the ones made about other chemical derivatives.
Trouble is, the Media can't wait for genuine research to run its course before feverishly rushing to Press.

I'd be a lot more worried about Fluorocarbons in the Environment, myself
Many newspapers overdo critical suspicions. But there is nothing wrong about making it public.

Of cause you can't say: they are chemical similar, so they have to work like hormones. As far as I know there are proofs of hormone like effects for fishes and mice. There is no question that Phthalates are volatile in plastics, and we have a lot of contact to them. So there are reasonable suspicions that they influence us too, and most industries have financial interests to not change the use of Phthalates.

I agree that Fluorocarbons are a problem that should worry us more. I.e. methane. Has 20-30 times stronger greenhouse effect than CO2, in suspicion to harm the ozone layer. About 70% of the methane in the atmosphere is caused by humans (fertilizer, farming, cattle farming), some indications that over fishing could increase bacteria produced methane, and huge stores in permafrost soil and methane hydrate under sea that both are released with temperature raise.
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I agree that Fluorocarbons are a problem that should worry us more. I.e. methane. Has 20-30 times stronger greenhouse effect than CO2, in suspicion to harm the ozone layer. About 70% of the methane in the atmosphere is caused by humans (fertilizer, farming, cattle farming), some indications that over fishing could increase bacteria produced methane, and huge stores in permafrost soil and methane hydrate under sea that both are released with temperature raise.
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Mixed up methane and N2O. The, 300 times stronger greenhouse effect causing, N2O harms the ozone layer and 1/3 are produced by fertilizer, not methane.
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