is flirting with a shemale same as flirting with a girl??

[srg.rod]

well i never had sex or even talk to a shemale i am kind of embarance and i feel kind of wrong cause there guys that turn into girls and well i was raised as a catholic and i guess i see that wronng but anyways how do u flirt with a shemale??

[Vanillas]

I am sure there are exceptions to the following but I believe the answer is: One should flirt with a translady the same as he would a genetic female. I have been chatting (online) with transladies on two very different sites. The first is what could be loosely termed a porn site. The models are referred to as shemales and men usually encourage them to either remove (yet another) item of clothing or to perform various sex acts. Perhaps calling such requests "flirting" might be a stretch. Still, the ladies are more responsive to respectful requests than demands and compliments such as "You have a nice smile" seem to go further than "I'd like you to stick that cock up my ass."

The second site is touted as a dating site for transexuals - and their admirers - and consists of a single chat room in which members hold multiple and simultaneous conversations. In this respect it is like a cocktail party and, like a cocktail party, the topics discussed are many and varied. It is all very above board (suggestive usernames are banned) but of course the participants can private message one another and take it to a more intimate level. I have not yet done that but I can tell you that I usually chat differently with members having female names than I do those with male names. Put differently, I am more apt to engage in flirtatious talk with the former. And (finally) here is my point: Without even knowing what stage in the transition process a given Translady is, I find myself talking/flirting with her no differently than I would a gg lady.

I hope this helps.

[srg.rod]

thanks i give it a shot

[Bionca]

You flirt with a Trans* woman, the same as you flirt with any other person. You make eye contact, try to strike up a conversation, feel like a fool for a few minutes, and hope for the best.

One thing I will caution you about is feeling embarrassed or guilty. We see that all the time and it gets pretty old pretty quick. Make sure that you are OK with yourself before you try to meet someone face-to-face.

Don't build us up to be some sort of mysterious exotic treat. We are above all else people and above that individuals. We each have specific likes and dislikes so there is no real "how to.." with Trans* as there is with cis* men or women.

[Creedence]

You want to know how to flirt with a transsexual woman?

You just flirt exactly how you would normally.

[rockabilly]

Good tips Bionca , But i have a shy personality and when i try flirting i sound foolish. I send messages to a tgirl i think is smart and pretty but i think i sound like a fool Am i just hopeless or what

[franalexes]

Originally Posted by rockabilly

Good tips Bionca , But i have a shy personality and when i try flirting i sound foolish. I send messages to a tgirl i think is smart and pretty but i think i sound like a fool Am i just hopeless or what

Okay, I'm game. Have at it pretty boy.

[hankhavelock]

Originally Posted by srg.rod

well i never had sex or even talk to a shemale i am kind of embarance and i feel kind of wrong cause there guys that turn into girls and well i was raised as a catholic and i guess i see that wronng but anyways how do u flirt with a shemale??

The same way you flirt with any other girl... simple... easy... and totally much more fulfilling! She'll rock your world, mano...

[hankhavelock]

Originally Posted by hankhavelock

The same way you flirt with any other girl... simple... easy... and totally much more fulfilling! She'll rock your world, mano...

Let me elaborate a wee bit...

I flirt a lot... even still with cis*women... and I'm sure you know the dynamics of that game...

The thing is that when I meet trans*women then it tends to be after we have already established our gender ID status... as a matter of fact, the flirtation starts at a restaurant or at home when we have already found out that we find one another attractive...

And then the flirtation lasts too shortly...

DAMN, I miss a situation, where I can actually go out and flirt with a little trans*her like crazy... the game of getting her interested, the courtship, her eyes down, her giggling, her being hard to get... let her make me crazy!

But unless you go out and date a trans*woman without you knowing her gender ID, then part of the flirting has already gone into technicalities.

Hmmm... I gotta think about this for a while... I have a new thing to learn here...

Well, I HAVE met and flirted with trans*girls a lot... but thinking this over I haven't flirted enough... the entire concept of trans* has sort of given it another edge... sort of like the mystery has already been broken...

Sort of like we have just been too eager to go to bed... or go out to dinner... or get into a relationship... the flirtation has not been artful enuff...

Ok, I have to change this... I'm an ass... I only realize this now...

My goodness, I have so much to learn... and so much to just take for granted as wonderful!

H

[hankhavelock]

Originally Posted by Bionca

We are above all else people and above that individuals.

That's the point I've always been trying to make...feebly... you are above all, and above all YOURSELF!

So well put, Mizzy B

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[rockabilly]

It's so poetic in it's simplicity yet so elusive in practice. Like Morrisey said "it's hard to stand tall when your small", being self concience is my problem. But getting to know someone first lets me get into a comfort zone and open up more ( no pun intended )

[Bionca]

Originally Posted by rockabilly

It's so poetic in it's simplicity yet so elusive in practice. Like Morrisey said "it's hard to stand tall when your small", being self concience is my problem. But getting to know someone first lets me get into a comfort zone and open up more ( no pun intended )

"Shyness is nice, but shyness can stop you from doing all the things in life you'd like to." - The Smiths

As someone is is painfully shy in person, I totally understand. Being oblivious to other's flirtations doesn't actually help either *shrug*

[rockabilly]

Hi Bionca, you a smiths fan too? I find it hard to pick up when someone flirts w/ me. I think it's because of low self esteem. I do great w/ friends but meeting new people ... I just clam up or start rambling. But posting here seems to help. I don't really have anyone to talk to about my love for trans women And being surrounded by redneck bigots does nothing to put me at ease. Sorry to rant talk to you later Ms. Bionca

[racquel]

Are you the son and the heir of a shyness that is criminally vulgar?

There are clubs if you'd like to go ... you could meet somebody who really loves you. But if you go will you stand on your own, and leave on your own, and go home and cry and want to die?

[The Conquistador]

Originally Posted by racquel

But if you go will you stand on your own, and leave on your own, and go home and cry and want to die?

That's how a night on the town usually pans out for me! It's as if you know me...

[baasje43]

Being happy to have met with several tgirls in my life, I can say that there are fundamentally two types of tgirls. And as it seems not much in between.

The first group is assertive and will immediately respond to any interesting smile, and come over to you in order to hunt you down. Sometimes they even are no real tgirls but crossdressers. They always are well endowed and functionally good sex.

The second group is shy. You sometimes find them just outside the special pubs, and they are blushing as soon as you look at them. Most of them are exquisite slender and some do not have a big cock, some do have one though. But they are unsecure of your reaction on the fact that they have a penis, wanting to be seen as a real girl. Just try to reassure them as soon as possible. Just say: "I know..." can do it.

The two tgirls I live with now are both of the second category. But I had extatic experiences with some of the 1st one (TY Bianca...)

Bottomline is: show your appreciation, and love them the way they feel good by.

[rockabilly]

Originally Posted by racquel

Are you the son and the heir of a shyness that is criminally vulgar?

There are clubs if you'd like to go ... you could meet somebody who really loves you. But if you go will you stand on your own, and leave on your own, and go home and cry and want to die?

Hey sweetheart, I am human and i need to be loved...just like anybody else does. : kiss:

[BigToy4Asia]

Originally Posted by Bionca

"Shyness is nice, but shyness can stop you from doing all the things in life you'd like to." - The Smiths

As someone is is painfully shy in person, I totally understand. Being oblivious to other's flirtations doesn't actually help either *shrug*

Bionca: your advice is some of the best, most helpful, most well thought out - most intelligent I have read. And I imagine that applies to far more topics than just this forum.

So it fascinates me that you consider yourself "painfully shy in person"... but then I've said the same about myself in the past, so, I can kind of see where you are coming from.

Anyway, I just felt like saying something encouraging, because you are truly inspirational. Which country do you live in? I imagine you'd be a fascinating person to have coffee with!

[racquel]

baasje43 -

So you're saying that all tgirls are either super-horny or super-shy?

I have met a lot of crossdressers who fit into those categories, but even then it's going too far to generalize them all like that. I know plenty of non-shy tgirls and crossdressers who are pretty horny and far from shy, but they're certainly not "responding" to everyone and "hunting people down" in clubs. They're just out being social.

And about the OP, it sure would be nice if more people treated us like girls and talked to us like girls. Apparently there is some kind of stereotype that trannys are just horny guys in skirts and it's OK to walk right up to them and say you want to fuck. It's sad, and the last thing we need is people giving out advice that half the tgirls out there are super-horny and you just need to make it known that you're ready for action.

I would have to say that the average tgirl is even more complex, difficult to understand and unpredictable than the average GG.

[rockabilly]

Hi Racquel , Tgirls may be more complex but i think in the end they want respect and love and above all acceptance. Some of guys can be pretty complex too Talk to you later

[racquel]

That's true. I just meant that most guys understand that they don't have girls completely figured out, and it's just as silly to assume you have tgirls completely figured out and can distill their feelings/motivation down to two fundamental types. I'm not one of those people who thinks profiling is terrible -- to the contrary, people can be extremely predictable and to deny that is ignorant. But you can certainly go too far.

And the bottom line is that most tgirls will be pretty offended if you're treating them as less than a GG.

[rockabilly]

If you can't understand that Tgirls feel that they ARE GIRLS and treat them accordingly then maybe you shouldn't aproach one . If all you want is a quick lay get an escort and leave the tgirls to those that really love them. Nobody likes to be used and heartbroken.

[franalexes]

Originally Posted by racquel

That's true. I just meant that most guys understand that they don't have girls completely figured out, and it's just as silly to assume you have tgirls completely figured out and can distill their feelings/motivation down to two fundamental types. .

Gee Raquel, I'm still waiting for the guy that has me figured out. Maybe my expectations are too high?
Take it easy on this newbe. I think he shows promise.

[rockabilly]

Thanks , I'm just looking for Ms. Right... the tgirl that i can love and be loved by. I enjoy posting here and flirting It was nice to hear from you.

[Darha]

All of yours are lucky, I really want to meet a shemale in person; i waste an opportunity to meet a trasvestite; and my wacky hobbies are blocked my chances to meet hers.

I recopilate all your experience and when i have the chance, i suppose that the shemales feels the same that girls, or not?¿?