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#1
11-07-2008
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I'm slightly worried about the emerging tone here
This forum has miraculously survived and even developed in a quite frank spirit with generally good-natured postings. And it has done so in spite of the fact that there seems to be two completely separate discussions going on. One about "who has the biggest she-dick", another about more substantial matters - wonderful.
That is not only unique (I've never witnessed another forum like this - and trust me, I know a few :-), it's also important for the brand of this forum. We appear to be able to co-exist in happy recognition of each other - despite our differences. Lately, however, I think the tone among certain posters is becoming increasingly hostile. That must be avoided as that is the root of any forum's inevitable downfall. Something quite unique has been created here solely by the intelligent contributors, and I hope this can remain an open-minded forum for broad-minded discussions among folks who may view things differently but who still have the intention of being nice and even the sense to back down when hostility emerges. We don't really need a forum that is at war. Think about it everybody! Peace! HankyPanky
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11-07-2008
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You'll get over it, right? Don't take it too seriously.
^^^ is what I've been told about it.
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#3
11-07-2008
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You've been here for a little more than a month, and already you've posted 60 messages and not so few with an aggressive tone and a hostile content. As I believe you said yourself in another posting which you gutsily refer to now: "...and I don't appreciate it" Personally, I have a broad back and can take a beating or five, but the fact is that other posters will feel turned off by the haters taking over, and that will make an otherwise good forum go down. Because they just disappear. And suddenly it's all hell, yet another forum taken over by the nasties with their sinister agenda. Is that what you want? Is that your reason to be here? Personally, I'm here to share thoughts and experiences about a subject that, my goodness, needs all the positive charisma it can possibly get. Enough people out there are laughing their asses off over all us pathetic freaks, so maybe it would be prudent to hold a bit back on the temper, count to ten and then post in a more reasonable way so that we at least can keep tone among ourselves. In the end, we're here to enjoy, not to hate. Peace! H
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11-07-2008
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I've added plenty to the discussion of TS issues. Or would reading those end up making you point a finger at an escort you support instead? Notice I have been followed in thread after thread by an angry prostitute. Nothing happened when I joined until I voiced my opinion on the issue of hooking, and now everyone is up in arms.
What's wrong with using your own words?
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#5
11-07-2008
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Do indeed use your own words, but use them prudently. As soon as you get drawn into a verbal fight it just escalates. Step back and leave the aggressiveness to others. If not it all ends up in chaos. Look, I made a point. It's not really up for discussion - merely my personal view about how to interact on a forum. If you disagree, be my guest. I'm not here to also start a fight with you. So PEACE, baby! H
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#6
11-07-2008
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Well, if you make a thread about it, it kind of is up for discussion... but at any rate....
I actually joined because I had read some posts of yours, Hank, and figured you to be a knowledgable guy and understanding as to what TS are about. But since you felt the need to call me out, perhaps I was mistaken. Peace indeed.
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#7
11-19-2008
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No one asked your opinion, not to mention your nasty personal comments directed at me, my appearance and my value as a person. It was a question posed as to escorting and whether it would interfere with a possible romance. You volly insults at an individual who has shown all of herself, from behind your computer without showing your face or identity. The fact this board would tolerate this conduct, especially toward an established member of the TS scene, is a strike against it. Buit not surprising seeing that virtually no one but myself apparently has the guts to show themsleves, face, name, location and all. This board is for wanna-bees and those who prefer anonymity and you fit right in. May I add, and this is directed toward all commenters, I quite frankly don't give a shit if my comments make others here less inclined to post.
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#8
11-19-2008
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#9
11-21-2008
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that sucks
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#10
11-22-2008
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And if you (and others) see this as your personal playground for hate messages, then I can promise you that I'll do every thing I can to get you guys banned from here. Because then your value changes into a nasty liability. So far most people have felt secure to post here. I'll be damned if some militant forum-crashers should be allowed to ruin that. Apparently you cannot take a nice hint, Melissa. Apparently, you have to pursue it to the end. Try to be nice instead of an ass hole - and being a transsexual does NOT give you special credit here. You're here on equal terms with everybody else, lady. Peace Hank
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11-07-2008
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hankhavelock I totally agree with you. When I joined the forum not long ago, I was very happy with it, I was visiting and reading and sometimes replying when I felt like it. As you said, "some posters are becoming hostile" and this is the last thing we need on this forum.
For me I come to this forum to relax and have fun, not to get pissed off by some replies. I think this will make some of us stop coming here. When I won't feel relaxed and happy here surely I will not be visiting often or not visiting at all. I know one person can't do a lot on the forum, that's why I suggest giving some users moderator privilage so they can edit or delete any offensive posts. If a poster keep on being hostile we can just ban him/her. I think this is the only way to keep this forum as friendly as possible. That's my opinion afterall.
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#12
11-07-2008
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CURSES !! ; ( VERY DRAMATIC...
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#13
11-10-2008
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P.S. lol @ hanky panky :P
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11-10-2008
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Peace
hmm true..and i think everyone has the right to state their opinion..but they need not fight to make it right or wrong..as its just an opinion..and if right or wrong depends on which side u stand..so just make a statement and leave it at that..no need to argue about anything..its not a contest .. in here.. n u just live a limited years before we all become dust..so just accept this beautiful life as it is and live and let live..
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11-10-2008
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11-11-2008
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_██_ (ಠ_ృ) I say they seem to be letting all SORTS of riff raff into the internet these days!
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#17
11-11-2008
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I should have written: How does calling people names and being derogatory and condescending to others improve the tone of the site?
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#18
11-11-2008
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I was merely asking posters to stop yelling and throwing mud at each other...
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#19
11-11-2008
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Well its the internet, and well how should i put it... drama drama drama.
I know I am new here, but being a member of alot of different forums and websites, you always get this crap. thats why its best for the admins and mods to stay a little detacted from members. Also people shouldnt get so worked up over a comment some person made about you on the internet. Like there are people in this world who will take something the wrong way, and they will be pissed off for the entire day, all over something a 12 yr old in basement somewhere in mexico said on a forum to them. Life is too short, so if someone pisses you off, just say it to them, not in some massive rant. They may not have realsied they annoyed you, but give them the chance to apologise, or else just move on with your life.
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#20
11-11-2008
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i agree with you a great deal. i love posting my opinions and things and i even like when people post theres evn if it may be different. we dont have to worry about scrutiny of the world and we could express our great love for some of the sexiness human beings in the world. when need discussions not war.
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#21
11-11-2008
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I am somewhat concerned that the girls here are being judged by their TRAGIC beauty, like Marilyn Monroe, or little girl lost.
The Proposition on Gay Marriage in California was voted down by Blacks, 70%. I think that means on the SOCIAL STEP-LADDER that gays are way down near druggies and career criminals, and "shemales".....jeez, I don't know where they are rated. I think there is a side of life here that isn't discussed too much, like being handed a Joker in the cards that are dealt, and I think Beauty is only skin deep, and there's lots of issues that maybe should be talked about and maybe shouldn't be talked about.
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11-28-2008
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11-28-2008
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ok i'm one of the oldest (joined sense) members here and for a year it was fine and mellow. it is only in the last few weeks/months i'd say after this whole membership boom this tone got really nasty and i'm wondering where and who it started with coz how the hell does one year of calm get nearly destroyed by some negative posts. I find this all funny and a bit stupid coz in this year of posting my tone on most matters hasn't changed one bit. i just think people need to take a step back and think about things before they act and leave all grudges with the login page y'know.
Much love sweet
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#25
11-30-2008
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Hm, this is an interesting thread actually.
Someone claims that some posters publish nasty comments and thus ruin the forum. But in the course of the resulting discussion they do exactly the same. Why is that? I think it is because they lack a simple strategy. It always takes two to quarrel. The simple strategy is (as in real life), if you read something you don't like, just read on. If you meet a person that says something you don't like, just move on. No audience, no performance. If someone says I am an asshole why should I feel compelled to reply that he is an even bigger asshole? Apart from giving me a split second of satisfaction it won't change anything. It certainly wouldn't make the other think about his behaviour. That could be better achieved by just walking away. Just a thought.
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#26
12-14-2008
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Moderation in all things
Why do we so often allow ourselves to get drawn into a firefight ? If a person has a genuine grievance, then let them address it direct to the originator, and not appeal to others in the Forum to support their sense of grievance by polarising and inflaming opinions quite regardless of the consequences to others. If the private correspondence does not reach an accord, or at least an agreement to differ without further public confrontation, then that is what a Moderator is for, to advise, and sometimes to warn. I have no sympathy with people in a Forum such as this who are quite deliberately insulting - it is counter-productive as it merely serves to provide further incendiary material for the participants, to the disservice of all.
Healthy debate is one thing, seeking ego-feeding confrontations, quite another. Use humour wisely and we will all enjoy each other's company the more.
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#27
02-03-2009
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> remember 1 thing respect and trust r earned u don,t buy it.....
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#29
11-28-2008
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Hello all,
Nice to meet some of you  About me: for now I'll suffice to say I joined this board because I glimpsed some intelligence and a little substance to some of these posts, but... As my first order of business I would like to commend Hank for his intelligence and level-headedness throughout with the omission of a light infraction I noted, whether it was merited or not. Your attempt to transcend the pettiness and uncivilized manner of some brash individuals is encouraging for me and part of the reason I joined. Let's see... first impressions on a new board. Well I have plenty to say after perusing this entire thread which is quite odd for (perusing, I always have a lot to say). Despite all I do have to say I instead choose to withhold much of it for I can (quite easily) tell that it would incite the irascible and irrational members of this board, and I do not intend to initiate any vendettas. I found the intelligent responses to a parasitic conundrum quite refreshing and rather compelling and felt the urge to continue. Of course (go figure) the hope I initially held for the constituents of this corner of the virtual world quickly faded as I sifted through blatant hypocrisy, misdirected anger, prepubescent name calling, disrespect, a plea for pity on behalf of another, and racism - which is quite disturbing seeing as how we're all in the minority here - among others. On that note I'll point out the intelligent and respectful comment by Bionca. Peace is nothing more than an ideal as it is against the basic driving characteristics of humans beings. Hate begets not equal hate, but abhorrence, and loathing in an attempt by each combatant to one-up each other until the outbreak of violence destroys the lives of them and their families leaving gashes which spew forth more vile vitriol from their survivors in a never ending cycle. He/she who hates more wins is the idea. These tendencies are amplified by the safety net people have when they're on the internet. They feel they can say whatever they want whenever they want without the slightest consequence. Not wishing to draw the ire of the moderating team, but I feel this is compounded by the fact that many moderators refuse to enforce forum policies on most boards and also set out to harass and incite members by being overtly rude and disrespectful for absolutely no reason at all. I've seen members of forums warned/banned for things not against the rules while those breaking the rules we encouraged by that mod. I've seen an admin attack a board member and ban him because he was in a bad mood. Abuse of power. Signature style, rambling on and getting off topic - my apologies - so I'll try and wrap this up. I always look at both sides of an argument and normally there is no answer. The grass is never greener. People get upset, and that's understandable. But why? If an ignorant individual makes an unjust attack on your character, try and see where they are coming from. I would attempt to educate them. I might ask "why would you attack me? What basis do you have for those assumptions or allegations?" If they insist on instigating a situation I would be an adult and appeal to a mod. I don't know how it works here but I would hope they would assist in defusing the problem. Causing more trouble does nothing but make two people look ignorant and childish and both be mad because of something that has no bearing in their life. Everybody here has something in common, but choose to focus on what they don't. In tying this together I'll use my first and only explicit reference to a post. Someone expressed their disdain with guys making comments like "I want shemale sex!!!" Now neither you nor I came into this world with the knowledge we have now. All these poor saps have to go on is the porn industry and it has shaped their views on transsexual woman more commonly referred to as shemales just like the media shapes the minds of the majority whether they believe it does or not. With the minimal knowledge they possess on the subject they could not begin to understand the the complex issues of gender identity and why transsexuals are not gay and that transsexualism is not a choice et cetera. Some don't want to know and there is nothing you can do. We as the most intelligent species should act intelligently. There will never be peace. There will always be those who purposefully or unintentionally cause a dispute. It would be wiser to rise above it and direct your energies into a positive endeavor. I would guess many members here have enough troubles in there life that they would refrain from burdening themselves with more online. Lastly people are less inclined to cause problem online if there's some type of order in place like in real life. "I don't want to go to jail" "I don't want to go to hell" "Don't want a criminal record." The online world needs a similar policing factor like everything though less corrupt. Rules should be enforced, violators should be reprimanded. I intended for this to be around two paragraphs, and less of a disjointed ramble. Oh well.
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