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Originally Posted by marlowe View Post
I'm a romantic socialist. I believe that in a society it's to the benefit of all if conditions exist where those more able can assist those less able. I believe in liberty, equal opportunity, and tolerance, and I would support political initiatives that aim to fulfill these ideals.
If people truly had equal opportunity, wouldn't it be horribly unfair to force the more productive ones to support the lazy ones who didn't take advantage of said opportunity? And that would lead to general ennui among the populace and nobody would accomplish anything.

Admitting that some are "less able" means that they do not have equal opportunity. Pick an ethos.

Socialism in practice has proven that attempting to give everyone the same standard of living lowers everyone's standard of living. Of course, if we're talking about the US, capitalism has been totally perverted and the middle class is disappearing. Nothing better exemplifies this than the countless companies that go bankrupt losing the jobs and pensions of all the workers while the CEOs are given millions for no reason.



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What I find interesting about the US 2-party system is the division of economic and social issues and how the division is pretty contradictory.
The 2-party system sucks, but it would be a lot better if it was as you point out split differently. I'd love to vote for smaller government and more social freedom. In the end (seeing as neither Republican nor Democrat social policies are truly oppressive), I think it's more important to vote for smaller government and economic responsibility. The problem with that is that Republicans have proven that they do not actually have any interest in those ideals. I don't think I need to get into the details of how massively Republicans have expanded the size of government, and on what a ridiculous scale they have pissed money away on not just war but handing out trillions to corrupt business.



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My personal politics are contradictory.
They sure are. You're a self-loathing homophobic homosexual. It's probably your parents' fault for instilling you with a bunch of religious guilt.

I'm a gun owner, too. I have a concealed carry permit to deal with guys like you who would probably like to fuck me then chain me to the bumper of their pickup.

Seriously, if you engage in gay sex but are against gay marriage, just go ahead and kill yourself. Or at least get sterilized. It'd be nice if we didn't have to worry about people like you continuing the cycle of abuse and cranking out kids to indoctrinate with your BS.

I also hate people who are against abortion but don't want to do anything to help all the unwanted kids who just end up filling the prisons.
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