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Originally Posted by sosed View Post
I didn't say they don't exist, but that I think they are rare. The only statement is, that i didn't meet any.

Why unscientific? Number of transgendered people born in 1000 born people is just a parameter, which show where is higher possibility, someone is born transgendered. I agree with you, that in some environment people are more open to transgendered persons and they are not so hiden than in other environments, that is why maybe statistics could not show real image. On the other hand medics for sure have correct statistics, how many persons have gender disorders. If you have real parameter of number of transgendered people born on 1000 people, you could see, where is number higher and where is lower. Where is higher number you start to look what is the cause of this. Maybe it is in genes in people who live there or it is other influence in time of pregnancy, which is more common in specific environment. It's like the researches of cancer, why in some environments cancer is more often than in others and maybe they find more cancerogenic elements in environments or that there are other reasons (genes mutations, industry with toxic pollutions in air or water, etc).

I didn't give statements and facts. What I wrote were retorical questions and samples of causes for a way to think about it.
Yes, you did say "rare." My point is that they are no more or less rare than anywhere else, only that you haven't met them. That is a rather unscientific basis for drawing a conclusion, but it seems to propel your argument.

As for doctors having figures on those born with gender disorders, this presumes that physicians know at birth that a child born with a penis is going to grow up and identify as a boy or a girl and/or it presumes that all people with "gender disorders" at one time or another see a physician about it. Clearly, if you think about it, to suggest that "medics for sure have correct statistics" is to ignore the reality of what kind of statistics might possibly be available.

As for the analogy to cancer and environment, do you really wish to suggest that the same type external environmental things that are linked to cancer cause gene mutations that can make you transgendered. Power lines, chemicals such as pesticides in the air and water, and so on ... are these more prevalent in Thailand and Brazil than elsewhere? Your analogy is precisely why I suggest this is all unscientific.

According to the American Cancer Society, some two-thirds of all cases of cancer in the United States are caused by lifestyle or behavioral choices: tobacco smoking; diet and weight issues; physical inactivity; and exposure to ultraviolet radiation from the sun, sunlamps, and tanning beds. Perhaps these cause people to become transgendered. A lot of trans pornstars seem to be smokers; maybe that's what made them transgendered in the first place?

If it sounds ridiculous, it's because it is ridiculous.
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