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Originally Posted by Talvenada
ANGRY:
You're judging FDR's 4 terms based on one HUGH mistake in the 40's, and judging it by standards 60-70 years later, like the founders having slaves and growing pot. Or do they get a pass?
You condemn FDR for ONE thing for 12 years? Hoover did nothing for The Great Depression, and Bush 43 has 116 questionable acts in 8 years. What about them?
Are you saying Obama & FDR are crap, while you say little or nothing on Hoover & Bush 43? Or am I taking you wrong?
TAL
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The principles remain the same even if we are judging it 60-70 years later.
You are taking me wrong. FDR did a hell of alot more damage than just 9066.
How about we start from the beginning, the gold confiscation.
http://www.the-privateer.com/1933-go...fiscation.html
http://www.fgmr.com/the-confiscation-threat.html
And some more:
FICA (Bankrupting us today)-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_In ... ns_Act_tax
National Labor Relations (Wagner) Act (AFL-CIO circle jerk) -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wagner_Act
Fair Labor Standards Act (minimum wage) -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_Labor_Standards_Act
Agricultural Adjustment Administration (Farmaid) -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_Labor_Standards_Act
United States Housing Authority (Affordable Housing!) -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Sta ... _Authority
Note that all of the above listed policies have come and bitten us in the ass at some point since their inception.
Social Security has trillions of dollars of unfunded liabilities on its balance sheet.
The Wagner Act is the basis for the Democrats' new push for Card Check.
The federal minimum wage has succeeded in accomplishing nothing and keeping the youngest American workers out of the work force and underemployed.
Farmaid has succeeded in not only redistributing massive amounts of wealth, but also by lowering the productivity of farmers (which brings about other unforeseen losses to our economy), while also subsidizing American farmers to put farmers in third world countries at an economic disadvantage, thus putting them out of business. We used to import large quantities of crops from farmers in north and central Africa, but now that we have successfully put them out of business through our farm subsidies, we now feel the need to send billions dollars more to them every year to help them in their economic suffering (induced by us). So let's keep a tally of the financial and economic costs of Farmaid: (1) Billions of tax dollars removed from the private sector (2) to pay farmers (3) to be unproductive. (4) Putting third world farmers out of business and then feeling sorry for them, so we (5) send them billions more dollars in foreign aid to help ease the problem that we created. There's five prices we pay just so we can say we "buy American."
And here we are getting pissed at China for subsidizing their tire manufacturers and undercutting US companies... Well fuck us, we're no better! We do it every day!
And, of course, the venerable AFFORDABLE HOUSING INITIATIVE. I'm not going to delve too deeply into this one... but as we all know it's the root cause of the current recession. So, enough about that.
Obama is trying to tread down the same disasterous path of FDR.