[meja]

Originally Posted by hankhavelock

Halleluja!

I find it more and more intriguing how even socalled trans*women (without a "frosted glass view", I presume) seem to succumb to the porn and fetish aspect of all this. H

Well I don't know what "socalled trans*women" you are talking about, but I'm pretty transsexuals were getting orchiectomys before the porn industry discovered their marketability in the sex trade.

I base my opinions on my quite empirical reality among transsexual women, and so be it...

Thank you for stating that as an opinion rather than a fact. It a nice change.

This castration discussion is a horrid joke among people who has very little knowledge of the things that actually go on out there.

Some people are making a joke of it, but others are trying to have a discussion about it.

Well, I'm certain that you personally are considerably better informed than the rest of us (at least better informed than me, because you have the auto-qualification given to you by merely claiming your transsexuality), but even so, I cannot take you considerably seriously.

I'm not the one playing expert here. I am not claiming that castration is right or wrong. I'm saying that it is a personal choice, and one that should be made very carefully. By the way that would kind of preclude doing it to sate a fetish.

Now of course, that is just my opinion, but it is one that is easily supportable and logically defendable, AND MORE OVER doesn't require me to be qualified as anything transgender or otherwise, since I am NOT attempting to speak for or about anyone else's experience. So go ahead say what you want about me, but it doesn't do anything to advance your cause.

In spite of your vernacular! And in spite of the fact that you really wanna speak for the good cause.

That's so interesting, because it seems to me that you are SELF APOINTED spokesperson on a crusade to close this thread on behalf of all TG people. I contrast that with my position where I say this is a personal choice people have the right to make about their bodies. The closest I get to speaking for a cause its to caution people that it's a permanent change, so they need to be sure they are doing the right thing.

Well, as you stated, you care little about my opinion, so why bother at all.

But I am just so happy you are finally owing your opinion rather trying to present yourself as the authority on the subject.

But the fact remains, still, that girls do things for their guys - even when they shouldn't.

This is also true of Natal women. Boob jobs anyone? I don't advocate that anyone should ever do any body modification to suit their partner's fetishistic appetite, but it is going to happen none the less. Closing this thread would not change that. It is far better to have the discussion and warn people to be wary of others who would manipulate them in such a way.