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Originally Posted by TracyCoxx View Post
I did not say the voters in New Hampshire were suppressed. Are you saying they were not able to vote?

Ah I see the problem. You somehow have the idea that there is a block of people who need to be escorted by a political party to the voting booth. I sometimes forget that people have these odd ideas. No that is not part of our right to vote. America assumes that if the people have the responsibility for putting our leaders in office that they can get off their lazy ass and put a check for a party or candidate. And if they are not able to make it there then they call whoever it is that gets their groceries and asks for a ride. The republicans in New Hampshire were not blocking anyone from going out and voting.
If you cannot see the equivalency between standing at the polling place and physically blocking the door and using some other means to, say, keep an elderly person from accessing the ride to the polling place that both parties offer on election day, then you have a serious blind spot.

The logical extension of your argument is that elderly people who are the victims of fraud over the telephone by those who convince them to share their personal information or to send them huge amounts of money -- a type of fraud that is a massive problem in the United States -- should simply have known better, and nothing should be done.

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Originally Posted by TracyCoxx View Post
And I'm sticking to my story that elections come down to the voter. You screw with the voter and you're directly tampering with election results.
Right. If someone figures out a clever, indirect, less visible way to suppress the voter, that someone is rewarded. How? Because people like you, by your own admission, decide to focus all your anger on the less clever.

In any case, our discussion is over, not because we can't agree, and not because the discourse isn't important, but because you seem too filled with anger and vitriol to have a meaningful dialogue. If it matters, I'll even let you say you scored all the points, even though I haven't been playing a game.

Ain't democracy wonderful? Let's enjoy it while it lasts. The people who take it away from us are going to be the ones who capitalize on the unwillingness of people to step back, take a deep breath, and really explore what is going on, rather than simply reacting to "facts" that are fed to them to serve a devious purpose. And again, as I've written time and again, that feeding comes from both wings of the rulers, equally.
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