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LoverofShemales 09-25-2008 03:56 PM

Are TGals the marrying type?
 
I read a lot of posts here that quite honeslty can be a little degrading to the fairer sex that we all appreciate here but sometimes the topics do have some substance (Thank you Bionca and Hank just to name a couple). I wanted to throw something out there that doesn't get discussed much. What if I wanted to marry a TGal... are you the marrying type? This obviously isn't a proposal of any kind... yet ;) but in a couple of years when some of the women we see here in the pictures have sowed their wild oats, are they looking to settle down with someone who wants them to stay the way they are or, do many make the full transition and then settle down? I guess what I'm wondering is... what is the likelihood that I, or any of the admirers on this forum, be able to find a TGal in all of her glory who would want to settle down and live happily ever after?

ila 09-25-2008 04:40 PM

Good question. I've often wondered the same. I would certainly be happy getting married to a transwoman.

Bionca 09-25-2008 07:13 PM

I guess that depends on the gal really. Some enter the sex industry simply to pay for the surgeries up to and including vaginoplasty (sex change). Some Trans*women have a burning need to remove all traces of their "male" past and can't wait to remove all physical representations of that past. Some gals don't care either way about the penis attached (like me) and some absolutely love the sensations they get from having it.

The issue of having the operation is as often practical as it is an issue of personal need. Things like going swimming, wearing shorts, tight clothes are just easier in public without the rish of a bulge or anything popping out. In the US, full legal recognition of gender can only happen after the operation.

As far as marriage, the states oversee this and most states require surgey for official recognition. Since most states do not allow same-sex marriages, surgerry would have to happen for legal marriage.

If you are talking about setteling down and having a stable relationship, I think the vast majority of trans*women are looking for a partner. Probably more are looking for a serious relationship than there are en who are serious about a relationship lasting longer than 48 hours or being more serious than a monthly "booty call".

bigforarse 09-25-2008 10:12 PM

I would love to marry or have a pologymous relationship with any beautiful t girl:turnon:

LoverofShemales 09-26-2008 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Bionca (Post 41564)
I guess that depends on the gal really. Some enter the sex industry simply to pay for the surgeries up to and including vaginoplasty (sex change). Some Trans*women have a burning need to remove all traces of their "male" past and can't wait to remove all physical representations of that past. Some gals don't care either way about the penis attached (like me) and some absolutely love the sensations they get from having it.

The issue of having the operation is as often practical as it is an issue of personal need. Things like going swimming, wearing shorts, tight clothes are just easier in public without the rish of a bulge or anything popping out. In the US, full legal recognition of gender can only happen after the operation.

As far as marriage, the states oversee this and most states require surgey for official recognition. Since most states do not allow same-sex marriages, surgerry would have to happen for legal marriage.

If you are talking about setteling down and having a stable relationship, I think the vast majority of trans*women are looking for a partner. Probably more are looking for a serious relationship than there are en who are serious about a relationship lasting longer than 48 hours or being more serious than a monthly "booty call".

This does make a lot of sense however it sounds... sad. And I only mean that in the way that marriage can't be available to people who love each other regardless of their orientation or whatever. But that is an age old debate isn't it? I agree with you Bionca that many girls would prefer a relationship that involves regular stuff like choosing wall paper and where to go for dinner and what movie to rent tonight but I have a suspicion (and I'm sure I'll offend some with this) that many men aren't interested in that but do prefer the object that is a "she-male". A term by the way that I'm kind of getting used to not using.

Personally, if I found a woman who was interesting, funny, with a little sarcasm on the side and she just happend to have something extra... that would be cool! I wonder though, are Trans-women suspicious by nature when it comes to guys because of the booty call thing? and does that subsequently make it difficult for them to completely be themselves? Just thinking out loud?

ila 09-26-2008 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by LoverofShemales (Post 41726)
This does make a lot of sense however it sounds... sad. And I only mean that in the way that marriage can't be available to people who love each other regardless of their orientation or whatever.

At least you and I live in a country where it is possible for people to get married regardless of their orientation.

Bionca 09-26-2008 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by LoverofShemales (Post 41726)
Personally, if I found a woman who was interesting, funny, with a little sarcasm on the side and she just happend to have something extra... that would be cool! I wonder though, are Trans-women suspicious by nature when it comes to guys because of the booty call thing? and does that subsequently make it difficult for them to completely be themselves? Just thinking out loud?

Well, I can only go by my own history dating this past year after my break up. I have a hard-won suspicion of guys that I didn't have a year ago. What's the point in opening up to someone over dinner when you will won't see them again?

Most guys have the fantasy of being with a trans*woman and they play ut the date and probably fully believe that they will take a gal out for drinks and a movie and then get some nookie. They play it out that it develops into a steamy long-lasting affair (maybe even convince themselves they want a relationship). Then it dawns on them (probably at some point between making a date to meet and arriving) that their plans will involve the public, and eventually their friends and family.

The fantasy becomes a reality with the potential of ridicule and not quite so sexy. So, I have taken the position of "believe it when I see it".

twistedone 09-27-2008 10:31 AM

I gave up on any kind of marriage after my divorce 10 years ago. Not to say that people can't be happily married. Its just not my thing.

Talvenada 09-29-2008 01:11 AM

Leggy Blonde Bionca
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bionca (Post 41763)
Well, I can only go by my own history dating this past year after my break up. I have a hard-won suspicion of guys that I didn't have a year ago. What's the point in opening up to someone over dinner when you will won't see them again?

So, I have taken the position of "believe it when I see it".

BIONCA,

The point is two-sided: it is your chance to present yourself to a potential lover/mate, and your chance to see/look for traits that you admire. It's a process of elimination that no one can escape from. It's the way we mate, and if we're lucky we get lucky--and that is not a physical reference.

Oh, it is out there, but the trick is finding it--is not easy.

hankhavelock 09-29-2008 01:15 PM

I ditto Mizzy B, and let me add that I've made a very good Danish chat friend who is a transsexual woman very politically active and doing a lot of important leg-work for improving conditions for gender recognition in Denmark. Even in Denmark, one of the supposedly most sexually liberal countries in the world, you still need full SRS to be recognized as an m2f-woman (or f2m-man for that matter).

That's of course totally absurd and so unsurprisingly based on laws made by the usual hetero fascist establisment to whom a dick sticks out of a MAN and a REAL woman has two million pussies... screw them... eeee... yikes... not really...

They never really got the point... gender identification happens between the ears... NOT between the legs.

Regarding marriage, sure, I think many transsexual women are ready for that - what ever legal manouvres are necessary to make it truly legal. I think they are about as ready as anyboby else.

I don't want to sound like a joy-killer here... but trans-women are really not all that special... oh, surely they are, but then again not really. A trans-girl is just a girl like any other girl. Yep, to me a trans-girl is the real deal and the kind of girl who just happens to like a guy like me, but when we strip it all down to the real issues of commitment and stuff, then a trans-girl differs little from a bio-girl in her needs and wants. A relationship with a transsexual woman differs from a relationship with a bio-girl, but only at the surface and maybe by the topics you two discuss in private. The mechanics are more or less the same. Surely, a trans-girlfriend brings a certain spice or edge into the relationship, and that is to be thoroughly enjoyed (what else is the whole point, really?), but in daily interaction the mechanics are the same.

So no, I cannot find a reason why you shouldn't be able to tie the knot legally with your transsexual girlfriend once you get that far. And should I be stupid enuff to say YES for the third time, well... then it will be, obviously, with a transsexual woman. Maybe that wouldn't be so stupid at all...

Peace!

H

donedeal230 09-29-2008 07:36 PM

any girls would like to chat just let me know

cockluva 09-30-2008 02:55 AM

I hope one day to find, settle down and marry a beautiful t-girl, There's nothing better in the world when you love somebody and somebody loves you, A feeling i haven't had now for a very long time.:respect:

suzie 09-30-2008 06:35 PM

I would really love to marry the right man, but it's true to say that society does not take kindly to any gender issues, and being early in the transition phase I have found a lot of prejudice, so any man is also going to have to put up with it, for life. Are there any men out there who could stay the course? If so get in touch:kiss:

TSmelissacarter 09-30-2008 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hankhavelock (Post 42197)
A trans-girl is just a girl like any other girl.

And there you have it.

Hieronymus 09-30-2008 09:02 PM

I would certainly hope so. At the moment, I'm thinking I might be happier with one over a bio-woman.


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