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ARIES666 05-01-2009 10:13 PM

Your favorite "Gender Bending" movie.
 
From "Glen or Glenda" in 1953 to "Connie and Carla" in 2004, transgenderism, crossdressing, female impersonation has been featured on the "big screen". I checked my "Videohound" movie guide and found over 100 films in the "Gender Bender" category. Most seem to be comedies. What is your favorite movie in this category?

For me, "The Crying Game" is the best. Jaye Davidson was incredible in the role (nominated for an Oscar, I believe). The story was great. The message it sent was even better (Love conquers all).

transjen 05-01-2009 10:44 PM

In truth i haven't seen a lot of them, The first one i saw was on TV when i was very young it was Goodbye Charlie and i kept thinking lucky bastard and then i rember seeing Switch which i think was a remake on HBO and the other one was on the SCI-FI channel a few years back DR JEKLE and MRS HYDE i believe that was the title, So i haven't seen many :no: Jennifer

9yneGuy 05-02-2009 01:06 AM

Seed Of Chucky. Chucky's son/daughter has a gender crisis. Mix that with murder and Jennifer Tilly and you have an awsome film. :)

But that's only because I don't think I've ever seen anything else in the genre.

Vanillas 05-02-2009 02:30 AM

Gender Benders
 
I actually didn't know that Gender Benders was its own movie genre. Curiouser and curiouser. I'm more familiar with Gay and Lesbian titles but I would imagine that some of these could, at a stretch, be considered gender benders. I did see and thoroughly enjoyed The Crying Game. I also loved Transformation, which is the subject of another thread on this forum. I have not seen Boys Don't Cry but I can't imagine a movie starring Hillary Swank being anything but but good.

ARIES666 05-02-2009 04:19 AM

Your favorite "Gender Bending" movies
 
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Originally Posted by Vanillas (Post 80615)
I actually didn't know that Gender Benders was its own movie genre. Curiouser and curiouser. I'm more familiar with Gay and Lesbian titles but I would imagine that some of these could, at a stretch, be considered gender benders. I did see and thoroughly enjoyed The Crying Game. I also loved Transformation, which is the subject of another thread on this forum. I have not seen Boys Don't Cry but I can't imagine a movie starring Hillary Swank being anything but but good.


There is a great movie guide that is put out every year called "Videohound's Golden Movie Retriever". It is published by "Thomson Gale". One of the sections in the guide consists of a category index which they call "Flicks That Flock Together". Under "Gender Benders" you will find movies like "Tootsie", "Some Like It Hot", "Pink Flamingos", "Adventures of Priscilla", etc, etc, etc.

Mandy 05-02-2009 05:56 PM

I really liked xxy, and Ma vie en rose is a classic.

aa2239 05-17-2009 05:48 PM

I'll second a couple of titles that have already been mentioned... "The Crying Game", and "Ma vie en rose"

violet lightning 05-18-2009 07:15 PM

I think for comedy "Some Like It Hot " with Jack Lemmon, Tony Curtis and Marilyn Monroe. "Tootsie", and "Kinky Boots" are good too.
For drama, "The Crying Game".

racquel 05-19-2009 02:54 AM

I'd probably say Priscilla, even though it's more about drag queens.

And how prominent does the TS theme have to be? Does Ace Ventura count? :D What about Austin Powers? Or Silence of the Lambs? Ya know, in Nighthawks, Stallone is in a skirt in the first scene and in a nightie in the last scene. Shallow Hal had an awfully manly tranny.

Princesa, Beautiful Boxer, Wild Side and Normal are all good movies, but not things many people would want to see more than once.

And why doesn't anybody ever mention Dog Day Afternoon? Or Dressed to Kill? Or Orlando?

The Iron Ladies is supposed to be really funny.

ARIES666 05-20-2009 09:11 AM

And how prominent does the TS theme have to be? Does Ace Ventura count? What about Austin Powers? Or Silence of the Lambs? Ya know, in Nighthawks, Stallone is in a skirt in the first scene and in a nightie in the last scene. Shallow Hal had an awfully manly tranny.

Legitimate question, Raquel. The only film that you mention in your list that "qualifies" is "Silence of the Lambs". The rest are not listed in "The VideoHound Movie Retriever" special category area Gender Bending". I would assume that any transsexualism, transvestism, crossdressing, impersonation, etc, etc has to be a prominent, important or major aspect of the storyline. A short 3 or 4 minute scene in a 90 minute or 2 hour movie is stretching it.

I have to check out "Ma Vie En Rose". Picked by a few people here. I checked it out on IMDB website and wow....a multi award winner around the globe. It's on my must-see list now.

lilbro 05-20-2009 10:07 PM

I remember one movie I saw when I was younger but I can't remember the name. All I can remember is this scene where the main characters is standing in front of mirror naked and says "I'm still the same person, just a different sex".

violet lightning 05-21-2009 09:05 PM

How about...
 
Yes, "Dressed to Kill" WAS a good movie! (I had completely forgotten about it)
I remember seeing it a long time ago and thinking it was a great movie.
Hmmm, maybe that explains a few things...

Also "Ed Wood" is a GREAT movie! One of my favorites.

smc 05-21-2009 09:33 PM

I'd have to go with "Some Like It Hot." It is the only gender-bending film that also happens to be among the greatest movies ever made, irrespective of theme or genre, and it may be the finest comedy (or at least one of the two or three finest) of all time.

ARIES666 05-23-2009 05:24 AM

Gender-Bending Movie
 
Perhaps it would have been better to have a thread such as "Gender-Bending Moments OnThe Big Screen".

Rememeber Marlon Brando in "The Missouri Breaks". A oddball western with Marlon as a hired gunslinger. There is a classic scene of him dressed as a "grannie"...guns and all!

And, Anthony Perkins in "Psycho" is great fun (and scary)

megawatty101 05-27-2009 03:10 PM

Some people liked Wilem Defoe in "Boondock Saints."
har har

JWKB85 05-28-2009 04:27 AM

I would have to say the spanish film, Bad Education, staring Gael García Bernal who makes one beautiful woman. Or Hedwig and the Angry Inch, punk rock musical that puts Rocky Horror to shame.

Bionca 05-28-2009 06:45 PM

I'm not so big on "gender bending" moves but I have liked some of the,

Priscilla Queen of the Desert
Victor/Victoria
spring to mind. My issue is, often Hollywood just gets stuff so very wrong.

One movie I absolutely LOVE and recommend HIGHLY is Paris is Burning. It's a documentary, so not really "gender bending" exactly.

I also liked The Crying Game for everything EXCEPT the Trans* story line. It was played for shock, the reaction of the guy once he discovered the "dirty secret" was to hit her and vomit, her ex BF was in a dream sequence laughing at the main character after the discovery. The parts about racism in Ireland, the IRA/UK conflict, English classism were all well done.

rockabilly 05-28-2009 07:32 PM

I pick Sleepaway Camp for its gender bending twist ending, that in its day was shocking but now is kinda sad. After watching it a second time all of Angelas shy quirks make more sence now. Her anger at being different and her loneliness make her a tragic character. Sledpaway Camp, it might not meet the criteria of some as a gender bender flick but how many slasher flicks have a transexual serial killer? Sorry if i ruined the movie for those who haven't seen it. Avoid the sequels!

megawatty101 05-28-2009 09:15 PM

Too Wong Fu, thanks for Everything, Julie Newmar.
 
Is that like a Gay Icon movie? I know some of the obvious ones aren't, and some of the not so obvious one are.

ARIES666 05-29-2009 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bionca (Post 86023)
I'm not so big on "gender bending" moves but I have liked some of the,

Priscilla Queen of the Desert
Victor/Victoria
spring to mind. My issue is, often Hollywood just gets stuff so very wrong.

One movie I absolutely LOVE and recommend HIGHLY is Paris is Burning. It's a documentary, so not really "gender bending" exactly.

I also liked The Crying Game for everything EXCEPT the Trans* story line. It was played for shock, the reaction of the guy once he discovered the "dirty secret" was to hit her and vomit, her ex BF was in a dream sequence laughing at the main character after the discovery. The parts about racism in Ireland, the IRA/UK conflict, English classism were all well done.

Everybody is entitled to their opinion,of course. But Bionca, I have to disagree with you about The Crying Game. I have seen this movie many, many times and feel the "trans story line" is as important as anything else in the movie. I do not think it was played for "shock value" at all. Yes, "Fergus" hit "Dil" in one scene. But what you have this straight guy from Northern Ireland who has never seen a T-G, let alone sleep with with one end up in Dil's apartment. Not only is Dil a TG, but she is also black. The whole situation could have been avoided if two things had happened...firstly Dil should have forwarned Fergus about her gender and secondly, the bartender at the bar was about to tell Fergus about Dil, but got interrupted by Dil's singing performance. If Fergus only knew that the bar where Dil hung out was a gay bar! Dil just assumed that Fergus was gay.

And as for Dil's gay boyfriends? Jody was seduced by a female IRA agent! And then there's Dave, who on two occasions, slaps, manhandles and abuses Dil. She kicks him out of her apt. And then Fergus enters her life. Remember what happened the day after the incident in Dil's apartment. She brought him lunch at his work and apologized for not telling him first. And then near the end of the movie...Dil shoots and kills Miranda Richardson, but Fergus protects Dil and does the prison time for the shooting. Now that is true love! I think you might want to watch The Crying Game again. I think it is a great love story (amongst other things)

Bionca 05-30-2009 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ARIES666 (Post 86195)
Everybody is entitled to their opinion,of course. But Bionca, I have to disagree with you about The Crying Game. I have seen this movie many, many times and feel the "trans story line" is as important as anything else in the movie. I do not think it was played for "shock value" at all. Yes, "Fergus" hit "Dil" in one scene. But what you have this straight guy from Northern Ireland who has never seen a T-G, let alone sleep with with one end up in Dil's apartment. Not only is Dil a TG, but she is also black. The whole situation could have been avoided if two things had happened...firstly Dil should have forwarned Fergus about her gender and secondly, the bartender at the bar was about to tell Fergus about Dil, but got interrupted by Dil's singing performance. If Fergus only knew that the bar where Dil hung out was a gay bar! Dil just assumed that Fergus was gay.

And as for Dil's gay boyfriends? Jody was seduced by a female IRA agent! And then there's Dave, who on two occasions, slaps, manhandles and abuses Dil. She kicks him out of her apt. And then Fergus enters her life. Remember what happened the day after the incident in Dil's apartment. She brought him lunch at his work and apologized for not telling him first. And then near the end of the movie...Dil shoots and kills Miranda Richardson, but Fergus protects Dil and does the prison time for the shooting. Now that is true love! I think you might want to watch The Crying Game again. I think it is a great love story (amongst other things)

Sorry, I really can't get over violence against trans* women justified and explained away as "they shoulda said something first". The fact she apologized after the fact made it worse. It was clearly written for shock value - to lure the guys in and *ZOMG! it's a dooood*

I also didn't read either of her boyfriends as "gay". They were pretty typical of guys who date trans* women though. Usually in a love story there is some uniting on the parts of the individuals. The last scene shows Dil visiting Fergus in jail and he doesn't look pleased to see her and askes her (I think) not to touch him or some such. Not exactly the grand love story ending.

ARIES666 05-30-2009 10:19 PM

Crying Game
 
Well, Bionca...we will leave it at that then...we will agree to disagree! I just want to say one last thing, however. The way the movie ends is similar to many other movies where the writer/director leaves it up to the viewer to "fill the ending" (Did Rhett go back to Scarlett?). In my own mind, after doing 5-6years in jail for her, Fergus and Dil live happily ever-after....but I am just a hopeless romantic I guess.

Oh, as for Rhett going back to Scarlett? Don't even mention that made-for-tv sequel with Tomothy Dalton! lol

Amy 05-31-2009 11:24 AM

Breakfast on Pluto is brilliant.

johndowe 09-06-2009 07:14 PM

Hi there.

How about Tango and Cash, when Kurt Russel's character has to escape a strip club and has to do it in drag...

But true gender benders.

Some like it hot, with Marilyn Monroe, Tony Curtis & Jack Lemmon.
It's a boy girl thing.
Priscilla...
To Wang-Fu...
La cage aux folles, The bird cage (1&2).
She's the man.
He's my girl.

Those come to mind.

JohnDowe.

franalexes 09-06-2009 07:25 PM

"Creature"

ila 09-06-2009 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by franalexes (Post 105133)
"Creature"

Unfortunately that is a very hard movie to get hold of now. I've been looking for several months now and it seems no one has ever heard of it in the places that I've inquired.

Bionca 09-06-2009 10:22 PM

Solder's Girl is one of my favorites. Based on a true story.. very touching and heartbreaking.

aw9725 09-26-2009 10:49 PM

Rocky Horror Picture Show (I used to go as Brad--"asshole"--yeah, I know...)
Dog Day Afternoon
The World According to Garp
Tootsie

suebone 09-27-2009 06:40 PM

RED & BLUE, this is not movie ,I thing a documentary,about twin boys.
1 was gay the other a m2f . about there life.
sue b

DSL 09-27-2009 06:56 PM

I love: one hung bitch 1 thru 3

Quote:

Originally Posted by ARIES666 (Post 80583)
From "Glen or Glenda" in 1953 to "Connie and Carla" in 2004, transgenderism, crossdressing, female impersonation has been featured on the "big screen". I checked my "Videohound" movie guide and found over 100 films in the "Gender Bender" category. Most seem to be comedies. What is your favorite movie in this category?

For me, "The Crying Game" is the best. Jaye Davidson was incredible in the role (nominated for an Oscar, I believe). The story was great. The message it sent was even better (Love conquers all).


GRH 09-27-2009 07:36 PM

Probably my favorite is "Ma Vie en Rose." "Priscilla Queen of the Desert" is also up there.

ilikeporn8lot 11-24-2009 02:13 PM

Someone needs to start making fan art of lois einhorn, she is the sexiest ts ever in a movie

connie 11-24-2009 05:06 PM

gender bender
 
Of course Rocky Horror, and Hedwig, I also love Kinky Boots, it is also very good. Really liked Connie and Carla, sorry, not much on the serious side though.

kingtheoden 11-24-2009 09:04 PM

Terror Firmer, classic Troma trash with a "gender bender" theme. The best is still The Crying Game, though. Rocky Horror is also a favorite, as is anything with Divine in it.

TracyCoxx 12-08-2009 11:37 PM

Zerophilia was just on... interesting movie.

jimnaseum 12-09-2009 05:49 AM

Freebie and the Bean (1974)

shadows 12-09-2009 12:39 PM

Out of all the movies mentioned, I have only seen The Crying Game and Rocky Horror Picture Show. I cannot recall much about The Crying Game as I watched it a looooong time ago. Rocky Horror Picture Show is one of my favourite movies. I have watched it numerous times, and I own both the DVD(and Shock Treatment, the "sequel") and the music soundtrack to it. What an awesome movie!:)

smc 12-09-2009 01:42 PM

Agreed
 
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Originally Posted by TracyCoxx (Post 121480)
Zerophilia was just on... interesting movie.

I just watched "Zerophilia" a few days ago, having come upon it quite by accident as I was channel surfing. Very interesting, indeed.

youlikeit 12-09-2009 04:48 PM

Ma Vie En Rose and The Crying Game are my fav's. I cried when I watched ma vie en rose and I think that when the crying game first came out, they had the greatest tag line for the movie. If I remeber correctly is was something like "She was the only man he ever loved". I know a lot of the girls here probably don't appreciate that line, but at the time it really got my attention.


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