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Talvenada
10-10-2009, 02:49 PM
A number of trans-women don't want their junk to be seen, touched or mouthed by a man.

This is just a guess, but is it because the illusion of having a vagina is broken when the penis rears its masculine head?


In other words, you are mentally a female until the reality intrudes on the pleasure of being a female?

TRANSJEN: Now that you have a vagina has the seeing, touching, etc. changed?

transjen
10-10-2009, 09:15 PM
Getting kinda personal here,
Yeah things look a lot differnt now and feel differnt also, When i look down i only see pubic hair and nothing hanging down and if i reach down there is nothing to stop my hand it just goes down feeling nothing but pubic hair and a slit
:yes: Jerseygirl Jen

Bionca
10-10-2009, 09:47 PM
A number of trans-women don't want their junk to be seen, touched or mouthed by a man.

This is just a guess, but is it because the illusion of having a vagina is broken when the penis rears its masculine head?


In other words, you are mentally a female until the reality intrudes on the pleasure of being a female?

TRANSJEN: Now that you have a vagina has the seeing, touching, etc. changed?

Hmm.. I know you don't mean to be, but I think there are some assumptions here that would offend most trans women. Using words like "illusion" when talking about trans bodies is not a fantastic idea. Just an FYI.

As to the question - every trans woman's relationship with her bits will eb different. Any attempt to explain anything in a general sense will be futile at best and very wrong most often.

As I mentioned in an earlier post, I simply feel nothing between my legs. In the best case, it is as erotic as playing with my feet. There are nerves there, so sensation happens and it can feel good. But mostly its just annoying because I'm just not getting much sensation from it. the mental stimulation required for GOOD sex isn't there. Why? Because I never viewed that part of me as sexual. Part of my coping with my dysphoria was to simply disassociate myself from my penis. It is just not important.

At worst, for me, touching it triggers an intense panic response. In my past, even pre-transition, topping made me feel disgusted to the point I could not maintain erection. It's like a thousand voices in my head screaming every time I have tried. Coupled with a overwhelming feeling that this is simply wrong on a deeply personal level.

Does this mean it's off limits? No. Sometimes I like to use it - but I really have to trust my partner (or be amazingly horney). I don't feel that using a penis is inherently a "male act" and trans women who use it are no more or less women because they do.

I also think lots of women who would normally be pretty neutral or even into topping avoid it simply because it's usually the only thing that guys want from us. It gets pretty old pretty fast.

Talvenada
10-10-2009, 11:02 PM
[QUOTE=Bionca;111077]Hmm.. I know you don't mean to be, but I think there are some assumptions here that would offend most trans women. Using words like "illusion" when talking about trans bodies is not a fantastic idea. Just an FYI.

As to the question - every trans woman's relationship with her bits will eb different. Any attempt to explain anything in a general sense will be futile at best and very wrong most often. QUOTE]


BIONCA:

I prefaced my comments with the word guess, because that is all I had to work with.

Personally, I had a choice at one time where I could have been with or mated with a femboy, a 24/7 TV with breast augmentation, a man or a woman.

I had a fantasy with myself in the CD/TV role, and the opportunity to make it a reality.

The illusion aspect was from personal experience, but I never when down that road to any degree beyond mentally.

The fantasy was in illusion form only, and the word selection--as you noted correctly--was only in the asking: as in did you ever have it as an experience or in any form.


Piece,

TAL

Talvenada
10-10-2009, 11:20 PM
Getting kinda personal here,
Yeah things look a lot differnt now and feel differnt also, When i look down i only see pubic hair and nothing hanging down and if i reach down there is nothing to stop my hand it just goes down feeling nothing but pubic hair and a slit
:yes: Jerseygirl Jen

JEN:

As I said to Bionca, I believe that was what I experienced, and wondered if that was in any way related.

Personally, I had a choice at one time where I could have been with or mated with a femboy, a 24/7 TV with breast augmentation, a man or a woman.

I had a fantasy with myself in the CD/TV role, and the opportunity to make it a reality.

If it's too personal for public consumption, or a PM, I understand completely.

But it wasn't just some random thread that was meant to be overly personal.


Piece,


TAL

The Conquistador
10-11-2009, 12:09 AM
In other words, you are mentally a female until the reality intrudes on the pleasure of being a female?

From what I've seen, it's all subjective. I've met some transwomen who had fun with their winkies and hated the notion that "you need a vagina to be a woman" and I've met some that viewed their penis as a "tumor" and was a nagging reminder that they weren't born the way they should have been.

Rambam
10-11-2009, 04:24 PM
Getting kinda personal here,
Yeah things look a lot differnt now and feel differnt also, When i look down i only see pubic hair and nothing hanging down and if i reach down there is nothing to stop my hand it just goes down feeling nothing but pubic hair and a slit
:yes: Jerseygirl Jen

you have pubic hair??? :innocent:

suebone
10-11-2009, 06:56 PM
From what I've seen, it's all subjective. I've met some transwomen who had fun with their winkies and hated the notion that "you need a vagina to be a woman" and I've met some that viewed their penis as a "tumor" and was a nagging reminder that they weren't born the way they should have been.

This is very personal.It being a" tumor" a nagging reminder yes born with the wrong gender,wanting to be the real me.:respect:
sue b
(short & sweet)

tslust
10-11-2009, 07:20 PM
you have pubic hair??? :innocent:a lot of girls have pubic hair

transjen
10-11-2009, 09:52 PM
you have pubic hair??? :innocent:Yeah, It grew back but yes i have pubic hair or perhaps you prefer the term hair pie, bush, bearded clam


:innocent: Jerseygirl Jen

rockabilly
10-11-2009, 10:05 PM
Don't forget "Fur Trap" or "Fur Burger" lol or a "Chewbacca"

transjen
10-11-2009, 11:10 PM
Don't forget "Fur Trap" or "Fur Burger" lol or a "Chewbacca":no: on the chewbacca as i'm not that hairy


:no: Jerseygirl Jen