Any shemale who wanted to be "unshemaled" (a return to origins?)

[shemaluvr]

Have you ever heard about any shemale who desired to become a man again, after years of being a ladyboy? After all is that so difficult to become a gay man again if she's just a pre-op shemale?

[streetglide]

I read somewhere about an early twenties ladyboy who had gone as far as castration and breast implants and then decided to go back to living as male.
I can imagine it would be much simpler without the surgical modifications though. Depending on how long they'd been on female hormones the testicles may have shut down permanently however.

[hankhavelock]

Have you ever heard about any shemale who desired to become a man again, after years of being a ladyboy? After all is that so difficult to become a gay man again if she's just a pre-op shemale?

Yes, my neighbour here and very good friend used to live pretty much full time as a woman (before I met him) but decided mainly due to societal pressure and the obvious hardships to become a gay man again.

He's non-op and now enjoys to dress up occasionally, but he claims not to have any inclination to go back to being a woman.

Obviously, it's good for him that he never went through SRS but I have from other friends heard some pretty hair raising stories about trans*women here who did, indeed, regret it. This is why most sane and conscious surgeons should demand a quite extensive psychological probing into the mindset of the trans*woman who expresses a wish for full SRS. This is not a fun thing to regret.

I've actually met quite a few trans*women who claimed that if their boyfriend would want them to, they'd do the SRS. Needless to say, that is a very dangerous road to take, but it does signal that some trans*women are willing to go beyond their own boundaries to please a man.

This is exactly why, I'm against this apparent ease with which a group of members here apparently salute a castration fetish. And mind you, a castration fetish (mainly from the socalled "tranny-lover") is very far from the actual need that a rather small number of trans*women feel for going through with SRS to be true to themselves.

Peace!

H

[Amy]

It has occured, I think there's at least one (I don't recall the name) famous case of someone who went post-op, then decided that they didn't want it, and went back to living as male. I don't recall off the top of my head. I know it's exceedingly rare though. Pubmed (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/) has a few papers on the actual statistics.

[bumlove24]

I saw a documentry a few years back about a wealthy arab guy in Britiain who did it. I think he had shares in a football club or something, anyway he was married with kids and had some sort of mid-life crisis and became a woman. She had a gorgeous arse! Nice and slim. She then decided to become a man again. At that point i lost interest! If you google it you may be able to find something on him

[bumlove24]

Thats the name of her. Male name, Sam Hashimi

[violet lightning]

Seems like I read on this forum that Lisa Lawer /Lawyer went back to living as a man, and married her/his cousin.
No confirmation on this, and don't know if it was voluntary or from family pressure.
It sure would add to your perspective and life experience to have lived as another gender, if only for a while.

[Jenae LaTorque]

Seems like I read on this forum that Lisa Lawer /Lawyer went back to living as a man, and married her/his cousin.
No confirmation on this, and don't know if it was voluntary or from family pressure.
It sure would add to your perspective and life experience to have lived as another gender, if only for a while.
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I remember coming across the same info. As I remember it, one of the prime motivations for the decision was the desire to have children.

[JodieTs]

It has occured, I think there's at least one (I don't recall the name) famous case of someone who went post-op, then decided that they didn't want it, and went back to living as male. I don't recall off the top of my head. I know it's exceedingly rare though. Pubmed (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/) has a few papers on the actual statistics.

dailymail.co.uk/Charles-Kane-sex-change (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1327554/Charles-Kane-sex-change--hated-Samantha-man-Now-hes-getting-married-So-fiancee-crazy.html)

[merelypink]

geez make up your mind!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! is what i would say

[smc]

geez make up your mind!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! is what i would say

Clearly, the degree to which you have any human empathy is inversely proportional to the amount of prevaricating you do on this site with your posts and avatar.

[shadows]

geez make up your mind!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! is what i would say

Would that be before or after you attempted to pimp your sites on them?:rolleyes:

[JodieTs]

You lot leave MearlyPink alone
She is really really pretty.
:inlove::inlove::inlove::inlove::inlove:

Why do people hit on MearlyPink, presumably because of the avatar;
but not on the huge numbers of people on this site
who also have stunningly attractive trans or bio-females in their avatar?
{serious question}

[smc]

You lot leave MearlyPink alone
She is really really pretty.
:inlove::inlove::inlove::inlove::inlove:

Why do people hit on MearlyPink, presumably because of the avatar;
but not on the huge numbers of people on this site
who also have stunningly attractive trans or bio-females in their avatar?
{serious question}

Can you smell that? It's the stench of rotting lies. That's the answer to your question. ;)

[JodieTs]

Well I love MearlyPink, :heart::heart::heart::heart:
so there.
We are probably gonna date and start a family and grow old together and everything...:p
:lol::lol::lol:

[smc]

Well I love MearlyPink, :heart::heart::heart::heart:
so there.
We are probably gonna date and start a family and grow old together and everything...:p
:lol::lol::lol:

Grow old?! Pink is already an 85-year-old man! Good luck with that.

[Enoch Root]

Unshemaled? That is one of the clumsiest words I have seen in my life. There must be a better one.

De-transition?

[JodieTs]

Unshemaled? That is one of the clumsiest words I have seen in my life. There must be a better one.

De-transition?

Yes that is the correct word.
I spoke a bit with a person, who claimed on a profile that they had already De-transitioned.
The reality was that they put the message up to stop men hitting on them while they worked out this huge thing.
They de-transitioned six months later.
Reason?
They perceived that due to their physical size
they would likely never fully be assumed to be a bio-female.
This was very important to them.
Also, they hated the expected perception of others would result in them ending up alone for ever. {it doesn't of course work like that}
Finally, family was important to them; they wanted children.
{you can always freeze sperm prior to HRT; that gives you a five to ten year window to use said sperm ---viability (fertility) drops off after this time}

So they went from unhappy trans
to living as a man
and probably feeling equally unfulfilled.
Very sad.

[JodieTs]

Grow old?! Pink is already an 85-year-old man! Good luck with that.

Really?
But their avatar pic looks so young and girly.
I must get my spectacles fixed. :lol:

[Tread]

Really?
But their avatar pic looks so young and girly.
I must get my spectacles fixed. :lol:

Before you judge Pink prematurely, why don?t have one of these enlightening, deep and thoughtful conservations with Pink.:lol:

[Enoch Root]

Yes that is the correct word.
I spoke a bit with a person, who claimed on a profile that they had already De-transitioned.
The reality was that they put the message up to stop men hitting on them while they worked out this huge thing.
They de-transitioned six months later.
Reason?
They perceived that due to their physical size
they would likely never fully be assumed to be a bio-female.
This was very important to them.
Also, they hated the expected perception of others would result in them ending up alone for ever. {it doesn't of course work like that}
Finally, family was important to them; they wanted children.
{you can always freeze sperm prior to HRT; that gives you a five to ten year window to use said sperm ---viability (fertility) drops off after this time}

So they went from unhappy trans
to living as a man
and probably feeling equally unfulfilled.
Very sad.

They? In the beginning...you make it sound like an individual but then you switch to they.

[JodieTs]

I always use the term he or she when referring to a person
where their appearance demonstrates how they wish to be identified.

Where it is ambiguous or they are genger-fluid or gender-blur
or as in this case de-transitioning with a huge range of compromise,
Out of respect, I refer to the person in the non-gender plural.
This way I am not imposing my own perception onto them.
It remains neutral.

When I talk to a stranger and the conversation turns to their significant-other
I always refer to this person as their partner
as I don't know if they are married or dating, nor the gender of the other person.
Not everyone is in a g=heterosexual relationship.

I myself am Polyamorous, having both a male and a female significant other.

[JodieTs]

Before you judge Pink prematurely, why don?t have one of these enlightening, deep and thoughtful conservations with Pink.:lol:

I wanna have sex with MerelyPink!
though blue scorpions are quite yummy as well. :yes:

People only put pics of themselves up as their avatar.
It's technically impossible to put a pic up of anyone else.
This is true.

[Enoch Root]

I wanna have sex with MerelyPink!
though blue scorpions are quite yummy as well. :yes:

People only put pics of themselves up as their avatar.
It's technically impossible to put a pic up of anyone else.
This is true.

Shocking. Another polyamorous person.

Yes that statement rings true. I am after all a female cyborg who works for Japan's Public Security Section 9 where I routinely investigate cybercrime and explore the philosophical issues surrounding the merging of man and machine.

[JodieTs]

Yes that statement rings true. I am after all a female cyborg who works for Japan's Public Security Section 9 where I routinely investigate cybercrime and explore the philosophical issues surrounding the merging of man and machine.

Yes, that's why I want us to have sex together, soon. xxx :heart::heart::heart:

:kiss::kiss:

[Enoch Root]

Yes, that's why I want us to have sex together, soon. xxx :heart::heart::heart:

:kiss::kiss:

I'm confused. My first paragraph had nothing to do with the second one. The first was a reaction to the fact you are poly--not many of those around, woe upon me. The second was a response to your ironic post concerning avatars.

I just suck the fun out of everything don't I?...

[JodieTs]

I'm confused. My first paragraph had nothing to do with the second one. The first was a reaction to the fact you are poly--not many of those around, woe upon me. The second was a response to your ironic post concerning avatars.
I want to have sex with you because you look so hot in that jump-suit. ;)

I just suck the fun out of everything don't I?...
I hope you suck really well then. ummmmm dreamy....

[Enoch Root]

I want to have sex with you because you look so hot in that jump-suit. ;)

I hope you suck really well then. ummmmm dreamy....

Why, Jodie! good god! This is very unladylike behavior! Control yourself, woman! And they say female hysteria is no longer a valid scientific diagnosis!

On another note: poly, what's that like? from one poly person to a frustrated poly.

[smc]

Really?
But their avatar pic looks so young and girly.
I must get my spectacles fixed. :lol:

Gee, could it be because the avatar and Pink are not one and the same? I realize that's a wildly radical thought, but stranger things have turned out to be true. :yes:

[smc]

Before you judge Pink prematurely, why don?t have one of these enlightening, deep and thoughtful conservations with Pink.:lol:

I think Tread knows something that only a few of us have hinted at. ;)

[smc]

People only put pics of themselves up as their avatar.
It's technically impossible to put a pic up of anyone else.
This is true.

Yes that statement rings true. I am after all a female cyborg who works for Japan's Public Security Section 9 where I routinely investigate cybercrime and explore the philosophical issues surrounding the merging of man and machine.

And I am a shepherd with an ovine girlfriend named Clara, but I also work part-time for UPS. Don't believe me? Ask Enoch Root. :lol:

[JodieTs]

Gee, could it be because the avatar and Pink are not one and the same? I realize that's a wildly radical thought, but stranger things have turned out to be true. :yes:
That's a totally ridiculous statement.
Just look closely at MerelyPinks face.
This is the face of an angel and certainly would not lie to us. :innocent:

[Tread]

though blue scorpions are quite yummy as well. :yes:

People only put pics of themselves up as their avatar.
It's technically impossible to put a pic up of anyone else.
This is true.

Tis is true, that is why a hot experience with a pole from the back scares the shit out of me.

[randolph]

Hummm, there seems to be some angel dust floating around here. :eek:

[Enoch Root]

And I am a shepherd with an ovine girlfriend named Clara, but I also work part-time for UPS. Don't believe me? Ask Enoch Root. :lol:

I can attest to that. Thing is though that smc gets so involved with the finer pleasures of our four footed cousins that he forgets to deliver packages on time!

[smc]

I can attest to that. Thing is though that smc gets so involved with the finer pleasures of our four footed cousins that he forgets to deliver packages on time!

Did I mention that Clara has a beautiful cock?

[Enoch Root]

Did I mention that Clara has a beautiful cock?

And you had to take it there. You must be the nastiest academic I ever met.

[smc]

And you had to take it there. You must be the nastiest academic I ever met.

That's what Clara said. ;)

[JodieTs]

And you had to take it there. You must be the nastiest academic I ever met.
Queue music
if i said you had a beautiful cock, would you put it inside me? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVCRgI2Ld7U)
Followed by
Let your spunk flow (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nkl4ASx1rPY&feature=related)

[smc]

Queue music
if i said you had a beautiful cock, would you put it inside me? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVCRgI2Ld7U)
Followed by
Let your spunk flow (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nkl4ASx1rPY&feature=related)

Not even a great pun warrants compelling anyone to listen to a Bellamy Brothers song, let alone have to see them performing it!

[JodieTs]

Sorry. :blush:

[smc]

Sorry. :blush:

Did I actually reduce Jodie to one word?! My god, I feel so powerful. I feel like, like, like ...

[randolph]

Did I mention that Clara has a beautiful cock?

OMG! Clara is a tranny!
I wonder is Dustin Hoffman knows about this?

[Enoch Root]

Bellamy Brothers and some Clara related to Dustin Hoffman. These are two references I do not get at all.

[Enoch Root]

Did I actually reduce Jodie to one word?! My god, I feel so powerful. I feel like, like, like ...

Totally deserving of rep points but the stupid forum won't let me hook you up.

[smc]

Totally deserving of rep points but the stupid forum won't let me hook you up.

"Rep points? We don't need no stinking rep points."

[ila]

I can attest to that. Thing is though that smc gets so involved with the finer pleasures of our four footed cousins that he forgets to deliver packages on time!

Are you sure that smc hasn't just been pulling the wool over your eyes? :)

[Enoch Root]

Are you sure that smc hasn't just been pulling the wool over your eyes? :)

Why the fuck is it so easy for you people to think of puns and yet it's so fucking hard for me? Who do I have to fuck to get a pun?

[ila]

Why the fuck is it so easy for you people to think of puns and yet it's so fucking hard for me? Who do I have to fuck to get a pun?

I'm udderly lost as to why it's so hard for you.

[Enoch Root]

I'm udderly lost as to why it's so hard for you.

What's the in-forum equivalent of screaming and cursing at the sky?

[ila]

What's the in-forum equivalent of screaming and cursing at the sky?

You should hoof-it on down to the library and look it up.

[Enoch Root]

You should hoof-it on down to the library and look it up.

I think I'd like to go bear hunting. Yes. That's a neat idea.

[ila]

I think I'd like to go bear hunting. Yes. That's a neat idea.

Would this just be one of your tails?

[Enoch Root]

Would this just be one of your tails?

Oh my fucking god!

[ila]

I think I'd like to go bear hunting. Yes. That's a neat idea.

By the way, you might want to paws and reflect on this before you actually try it.

[Enoch Root]

By the way, you might want to paws and reflect on this before you actually try it.

Oh lord, what have I done to deserve this so?

[smc]

You should hoof-it on down to the library and look it up.

I think I'd like to go bear hunting. Yes. That's a neat idea.

I was going to ask what the fuck bears and hooves have to do with each other, but then -- on a lark -- I put "bear hooves" into Google. Who knew "bear hoof" was a synonym for "camel toe"? According to the Urban dictionary, it "describes when the folds of the labia can be made out clearly through the fabric" of tight pants.

Now, try punning on that!

Learning ... truly a lifelong endeavor.

[ila]

Oh lord, what have I done to deserve this so?

I suppose that you'd now like to head-off any other possible puns that I could come up with.

[smc]

I suppose that you'd now like to head-off any other possible puns that I could come up with.

Well, I guess with that it's time to quote Hamlet, who, after asking Yorick where his flashes of merriment are, answers it himself, with a pun:

"Not one now, to mock your own grinning -- quite chop-fallen."

[Enoch Root]

I suppose that you'd now like to head-off any other possible puns that I could come up with.

What's the point?

Forgive them father for they know not what they do.

[ila]

Well, I guess with that it's time to quote Hamlet, who, after asking Yorick where his flashes of merriment are, answers it himself, with a pun:

"Not one now, to mock your own grinning -- quite chop-fallen."

Yorick was just a lamb.

[ila]

What's the point?

Forgive them father for they know not what they do.

Don't cross me, Enoch. :lol:

[Enoch Root]

Don't cross me, Enoch. :lol:

Christ! I want to give you rep for that but, AGAIN!, the stupid forum won't let me.

[ila]

Christ! I want to give you rep for that but, AGAIN!, the stupid forum won't let me.

There you go, Enoch. You finally got in a pun.

[randolph]

On this forum, I'm inclined to be laid back.

[Enoch Root]

There you go, Enoch. You finally got in a pun.

Where, ila?

[ila]

Where, ila?

I sent you an explanation in a PM.

________________

Puns are the worst form of humour, except for all others. So now it's time to return this thread to its original intent.

[shadows]

Yes, that's why I want us to have sex together, soon. xxx :heart::heart::heart:

:kiss::kiss:

What chance does a cute Christmas Mousie have?:innocent:

[JodieTs]

What chance does a cute Christmas Mousie have?:innocent:
Oh quite a lot
I'm sure of that...;) :kiss:

[katieayanami]

i have always been a girl and will always be a girl.

[shadows]

Oh quite a lot
I'm sure of that...;) :kiss:

Yay! Thanks for giving me a smile, Jodie.:):hug: