I remember when

[sexchannel]

I remember when i had to try and convince a bouncer at the pub that i was really 18 so i could have a beer at the bar

What do you remember from yesterday ?

[transjen]

I rember being able to pee standing up :lol: Jennifer

[rockabilly]

I remember holding Hazel in my arms as we slow danced to " Fade into you " by Mazzy Star and i kissed her gently on those soft pouty lips ... then i woke up and remembered i'm ugly and alone. Ah to sleep perchance to dream.

[tslust]

I rember being able to pee standing up :lol: Jennifer

:lol:That's very funny!!!:lol:

[NCC-1701]

I remember the first time i fantasied about sex with a Tgirl. I was still in school! She was wearing latex :D

[sexchannel]

i remember when i first hooked up with my fantasy ... no disappointments

[violet lightning]

I remember when there was no internet and you had to go to certain convenience stores or newstands to buy porno mags!! :eek:

I can remember as a teen my heart pounding as I walked up to the counter with a coke or something and a copy of "Penthouse" , not knowing for sure if the clerk would sell it to me or not! (they always did! :lol: )

[sexchannel]

i remember as a kid searching for empty bottles to return for the deposit money and every now and then you would stumble upon a stack of porn mags
.... jackpot !

[runround04]

I rember being able to pee standing up :lol: Jennifer

Thats the funniest thing ive read in a while:respect:

[violet lightning]

i remember as a kid searching for empty bottles to return for the deposit money and every now and then you would stumble upon a stack of porn mags
.... jackpot !

I used to do the same thing! I grew up in the country, so I collected old pop bottles and later beer cans for the fun of it, and every so often would find a stash of discarded mags. A treasure beyond compare to a 13 or 14 year old!!
I remember my Mom finding them on occasion, and she would always demand "Where did you get these?" and I would always answer (honestly) "I found them!" Penthouse and Club were the best finds...Playboy and Oui were good, but tame, and Hustler was too gross! Ah, those were the days!
Simple pleasures...:D

Haven't bought one or even read a mag in years....I think a Penthouse cost around 9 or 10 bucks now! I remember when they were $2 or 3 bucks!

[Jenae LaTorque]

When I was around 10 or so I remember looking though my uncle Donny's PLAYBOY collection which were stashed in the bunkhouse out on the ranch. This was in the late sixties and the interesting thing is that my Grandmother had subscribed to it for Donny who was around 17 at the time. Pretty enlightened lady for those days.

Another early source was some racy men's magazines that I found behind the seat of a US Government truck that was parked out on the farm. My first exposure to the art of Bill Ward. I still save Bill's work when I find it on the Internet.

[Jenae LaTorque]

I remenber when Gia Darling was in Hustler magazine. I remember that it made more than one guy uneasy to realize that Gia turned him on. :lol:

[sexchannel]

In our modern world ..... i think mags are still cool , something about holding a mag is still good , many say the internet is killing mags but i think they will be around for a while yet

[transjen]

I rember when gas was a buck a gallon :yes: Jerseygirl Jen

[tslust]

I rember when gas was a buck a gallon :yes: Jerseygirl Jen

Ya, me too.

[sexchannel]

I remember when a mars bar was full size !

[sexchannel]

I remember when i first got a computer , some one dropped in and said hey you more than one pprogram open .... i shit myself and turned it off

these days i would just say 'chill out dude'

[sexchannel]

I remember windows 98 ...... i hate the way things keep changing all the time

..... if it aint broke dont fix it !

[NCC-1701]

I remember my old Sega Megadrive (genesis) oh wait, i still have it!! haha

[tslust]

I remember windows 98 ...... i hate the way things keep changing all the time

..... if it aint broke dont fix it !

I know what you mean.

[transjen]

I rember when Mortal Kombat II for SEGA was the hottest game around
:yes: Jerseygirl Jen

[simmo]

I rember when Mortal Kombat II for SEGA was the hottest game around
:yes: Jerseygirl Jen


it was a HOT game for me !
only fought female to female
what a turn on I had :turnon::turnon::turnon:

Thks 4 the 'remembers' Jen

[transjen]

it was a HOT game for me !
only fought female to female
what a turn on I had :turnon::turnon::turnon:

Thks 4 the 'remembers' Jen I always played the girl in blue and had the deadly fans or was it the Sai's? sorry been a long time since i played the game


:eek: Jerseygirl Jen

[rockabilly]

That was Princess Kitana and her weapon of choice bladed fans , now her doppelganger was Mileena she wielded sais. My character was Sub-Zero and Scorpion. ;) And MK1 ruled the Genesis as it had the blood and the SNES had "sweat" oh and i remember when i got that game , my grandmother got it for me and it was on my bed when i got home from school. :)

[transjen]

Sub Zero was fun to kill
:pJerseygirl Kitana :lol:

[rochellerochelle]

I remember the first time I went shopping for pantys, I was 15 and after needing more than what I could steal from my older sister, I braved the department store, "Bras N Things" and as planed discribed my girlfriends size to the lovely lady serving, she giggled and ask if she was about the same size as me:innocent: I blushed and agreed, we chose the most perfect pair of little pink ruffle pantys, matching bra and gorgeous lacey camisole, some nice white sheer pantyhose and lovely night gown, i was thrilled and rushed home to try them on, having the house to myself that weekend.
well what a journey of discovery i went on that weekend, i now, wrapped in my gurly wonder began to understand who I realy was, i spent 2 wonderfull days admiring and fucking myself silly, i couldnt wait for my first date.

To be continued
xxx rochelle:heart::heart::heart:

[lacey_maxie]

I remember playing with my dildo for the first time in my life.It happened in August of 1997.Actually I didn't know what size to start with as I was very nervous and the idea of putting the cock shaped dildo in my anus was making me very gulty but I couldn't resist the temptation.I used the small size dildo first and I felt so ashamed of myself next day when I came to work.I kept saying to myself that I would not put anything in my ass anymore but the same day I bought a bigger dildo and I was playing with it all night.So this is how my history started.....:turnon:

[rockabilly]

Lacey what size you up to now? ;) And have you tried the real deal?

[transjen]

I rember my mom having black vinyl discs called record ablums
:yes: Jerseygirl Jen

[sexchannel]

I remember buying if you want blood by ac/dc (LP) it was the first record i can remember buying , today i went to an opportunity shop to see if they had any cassettes ...... my old van doesn't have a radio , sad but true

[transjen]

I rember when MTV showed nothing but music videos
:lol: Jerseygirl Jen

[sexchannel]

I rember when MTV showed nothing but music videos
:lol: Jerseygirl Jen

Yes you are so right !!!!!

But dont worry you can always change the channel or better still pick up that guitar and learn .... its great fun , although any girl i have ever tried to teach a few things always looks so sad when i say 'you have to cut your nails'

[transjen]

Yes you are so right !!!!!

But dont worry you can always change the channel or better still pick up that guitar and learn .... its great fun , although any girl i have ever tried to teach a few things always looks so sad when i say 'you have to cut your nails'Fraid not as i have no musical talent what so ever :no: Is MTV even still on the air? I haven't watched it since i was a teen


:cool: Jerseygirl Jen

[desirouspussy]

I still save Bill's work when I find it on the Internet.

Mmmm.......and you like to add a little something to make it more stimulating, don't you. Think you've managed to do that quite well, Janae!

Diana

[rmm123]

i remember my father showing around our family from a further distance in our house and the moment he showed them the construction of my bed by lifting up the matrace where my porno mags were hidden. moment of glory! :cool:

[Cyborg]

I remember being drunk last night.

[sexchannel]

I remember being drunk last night.

if you remember ...... you were not drunk enough! :(

[tslust]

if you remember ...... you were not drunk enough! :(

I agree with you there.:yes:

[rockabilly]

I remember when i fell in love ;)

[transjen]

I remember when i fell in love ;) So do i, I drove past and i had to turn around and go back, When i did it was love at first site in the parking lot there she was a 94 blue Corvette and i had to have her yes it was true love


:inlove: Jerseygirl Jen

[Vanillas]

I rember when gas was a buck a gallon :yes: Jerseygirl Jen

I remember when gas was twenty-five cents a gallon and would sell for even less during a gas war (competition among local filling stations to win customers by charging the lowest price).

[ila]

So do i, I drove past and i had to turn around and go back, When i did it was love at first site in the parking lot there she was a 94 blue Corvette and i had to have her yes it was true love


:inlove: Jerseygirl Jen

But were the feelings mutual?:)

[transjen]

But were the feelings mutual?:) I think so, After all if you were a Corvette would you rather be owned and drivin by a middle aged balding over weight man or by a young sexy girl?

:cool: Jerseygirl Jen

[ila]

I think so, After all if you were a Corvette would you rather be owned and drivin by a middle aged balding over weight man or by a young sexy girl?

:cool: Jerseygirl Jen

You have a good point Jen. If I was a Corvette then definitely I would want you to be my driver.

[transjen]

You have a good point Jen. If I was a Corvette then definitely I would want you to be my driver.AHH thanks[insert blush icon]


:) Jerseygirl Jen

[sexchannel]

Its always a quick divorce once your love becomes 'unreliable' and starts to splutter

[sesame]

I saw with bulging eyes, the first functional mother board at the institute. We ran small programs in Assembly language. And then whoosh! Assembly language is out of vogue in front of basic!

I remember when I had to push in 3 floppies one after the other in order to load Lotus123. That was before Wordstar and Excel era. I had to mention the row and column number in order to access a spot on the screen.

Then came the mouse and Windows and I was so fascinated by those new concepts. God, I was nostalgic for Lotus123. I wouldnt let it go. And GW Basic, Qbasic...:innocent:. I had to work so hard to master them and suddenly they were obsolete! Damn!

[sesame]

The same sequence of events rocked the C language and Visual basic. Then I dated with Flash actionscript and Director Lingoscript for a while.
Wham, bam, thank you programmer.
They were replaced by Actionscript3.0 and better things. And I wondered,
Will I go on learning a new language or program every year?
How many languages will I have to learn in a single lifetime?
Will I be a student forever?

So I said, What the hell!
Changed gears and chucked programming all togather:cool:

And started with Animation.... And me and Annie will go on living happily everafter.;)

[sexchannel]

The same sequence of events rocked the C language and Visual basic. Then I dated with Flash actionscript and Director Lingoscript for a while.
Wham, bam, thank you programmer.
They were replaced by Actionscript3.0 and better things. And I wondered,
Will I go on learning a new language or program every year?
How many languages will I have to learn in a single lifetime?
Will I be a student forever?

So I said, What the hell!
Changed gears and chucked programming all togather:cool:

And started with Animation.... And me and Annie will go on living happily everafter.;)


I am probably the same age , just didn't go through all that stuff , still haven't , you guys are the true pioneers

[sesame]

I worked with DOS in my childhood.
I started computing at the last phase of Lotus-123.
Bill Gates had not yet bought Wordstar and Excel.
Windows was yet to come. But Assembly language
& Basic were already goners.

I wonder why did they make us study obsolete languages so hard!!
Morons! What a waste of our time! We could be studying C, C++,
which were on full swing at that era! The Education Dept. is still filled with incompetent, Unimaginative people.

As soon as Bill Gates bought Excel, Wordster and launched Windows with office suite, an invisible war began to get the contenders out of the scene. So, Lotus Suite had to go. MsExcel took it's place. Wordstar became MsWord. Gates bought small programmes like Paint and what not! And DOS experts had nothing else to do but suck thumbs!:p

Those who stuck with DOS, Basic or C, did so only as a hobby, out of nostalgia for those fine programmes... and labeled themselves as the Old School. The "Brave New World" had no longer any room for outdated technology.

Regarding modern languages, I think Java is here to stay, C++ is still at work beneath the surface. But .Net, magnificent as it is, will be relaced by some new toy out of the sleeve of Bill Gates. He will do this to keep pace with the competition and also for earning another pile of billions. Businessmen dont like it peaceful and stagnant.

[Christine]

I remember my family's first computer, Windows 95 :)

Main uses was paint, pinball and sometimes solitaire :)

[randolph]

Ah, the good old days!
I started my computer experience punching IBM cards and submitting them to the campus IBM 360. What a pain! Then the lab bought a Digital MINC and a mile high stack of manuals that I was supposed to understand. It had two huge floppy disks and fortran and basic. I was supposed to develop a data base program for our lab data and I had no training in computers! Fortran was horrible, I finally resorted to a customized version of Pascal. My home computer was a TRS80 :lol:. Then the IBM PC came out with Word and Excell and compiled basic and computer programming became fun. It was so much easier to program in DOS before Windows, you wrote a program and ran it. Windows made things much more complicated. Then the Internet came along and the world changed. Now everybody has their own secret access to loads of PORN! ;):coupling::turnon::inlove::drool::cool:

[transjen]

I rember when i was very young my dad had a computer is was a Comadore 64
:lol: Jerseygirl Jen

[sesame]

Do you know that those bulky 486 computers can run Windows 3.1 or an early version of Linux with flair. It can even surf the internet! I know its totally impractical, thats why they end up in trash. But sometimes such an impractical endeavour can be a source of fun. Its just like vintage cars.;)

[sesame]

Then the Internet came along and the world changed. Now everybody has their own secret access to loads of PORN!Exactly! The majority of home computers are used for entertainment. They run Games, Internet (for email and Porn), play Video CD, DVD and music. I think I have covered all the general uses... Have I not?;)




Programming, Graphics, Web designing, Video & music editing ... are for boring Pros.:p

[transjen]

I rember a lot of bozos running around like chicken little screaming Y2K and the end of the world was coming when every computer crashes and massive blackouts and nuclear missles going off. Then midnight on 1/1/00 not a damn thing happend
:lol: Jerseygirl Jen

[ila]

I rember a lot of bozos running around like chicken little screaming Y2K and the end of the world was coming when every computer crashes and massive blackouts and nuclear missles going off. Then midnight on 1/1/00 not a damn thing happend
:lol: Jerseygirl Jen

I remember that. I was heavily involved in emergency planning for a cellular telephone company at that time. It was very thought provoking, to say the least, trying to come up with all possible scenarios. And then the big night and like you said Jen, nothing happened.

[transjen]

A guy who lived a block away in july of 99 actualy bulit a bomb sheltor and for the rest of 99 was stocking it full of canned food guns and ammno, Bet he went DOH when nothing happend
:lol: Jerseygirl Jen

[lacey_maxie]

I remember my first PC with windows95 long time ago and literally I was scared to switch it on because I thought I would screw it up.....:)

[ila]

A guy who lived a block away in july of 99 actualy bulit a bomb sheltor and for the rest of 99 was stocking it full of canned food guns and ammno, Bet he went DOH when nothing happend
:lol: Jerseygirl Jen

I got a good laugh out of that.

I know people that tore out gas fireplaces and put in woodburning fireplaces because they thought that they wouldn't be able to heat their house otherwise.

[transjen]

I got a good laugh out of that.

I know people that tore out gas fireplaces and put in woodburning fireplaces because they thought that they wouldn't be able to heat their house otherwise. A lot of people here in NJ did the same thing, I was still living at home with my parents at the time and i rember my dad saying it's a bunch of BS and besides if it's GOD'S will that everything blows up then it will happen and there's nothing we can do about and bomb shelter or no bomb shelter will make a differnce if it's our time then it's our time, I grew up in a strong Chatlic household
Jerseygirl Jen

[johndowe]

Hi there.

I started with an atari 2600 game console then i got a commodore 64, 286, and xt almost at the same time...

Learned basic on a Dec PDP11 - 45 RSTS/E, later tought myself to program my 64 in assembler basic was way too slow, learned pascal, didn't like it, too easy to make errors with all those begins and ends DON'T BUG ME ABOUT THAT, you like Pascal fine, lets agree to disagree ok. liked dos i would combine small ASM programs in batch files and make my old pc's do what i wanted, the only thing that i find stupid is microsoft, an operating system should take as little system resources as possible, within reason, and that excludes every programming language but ASSEMBLER, windows would be much smaller, faster, and more stable were it programmed in ASM instead of C. C and all it variants should be used for custom programming to keep developement times and costs down, everything else SHOULD be programmed in ASM, but i know i'm preaching to a deaf audience on that one, because everything today is qiock, quick, quick, and assembler is only quick, quick, quick, when running, not while in developpeng, and you need discipline and resolve to program in ASM effectively, most companies are too "something" to even try something like that, they'd have to invest time, energy and money creating and mantaining (DEBUGED) code libraries, even though it would make their products much better in so many way.

Got carried away there.

JohnDowe.

[sesame]

Johndowe,
I liked your post and understand your point. Windows and even Linux have to incorporate scores of programmes for supporting entertainment to suit the needs of most customers. And look at windows Vista now, it eats up 10-15 Gigabytes of diskspace! And think of the RAM capacity we will be needing in future to support that kind of memory overload!

If the whole nine yards are done in Assembly, the GUI will become cripled and the debugging will kill a few programmers.:lol: Put VC++ and Asm side by side. What do you see?

Furthermore, ASM is(or, should I say, was) for geeks, not laymen. But most peole can handle Visual Basic. And then there is the question of being just structural (as in C programming) and Object Oriented Programming as in C++ onwards. VC++, Java and .Net are object oriented through and through. Could ASM ever have handled that?

But one string that Microsoft is pulling is really evil. They are getting tie-ups with Intel and other major players. And these harware giants are producing machines that can only run in the most recent version of windows. So, if we upgrade hardware, we are being forced to buy Vista and "more to come" and pay Microsoft. And some of my favourite softwares wont even run in XP-sp2 or Vista!

[sexchannel]

I remember when i just paid for my internet and didn't have to think about data ???

i miss you dial up

[tslove4life]

I remember when, we used to get free DirecTV, back in the late 90's.

[sesame]

I remember my first orgasm. My body shook and shook and shook with convulsions. I was totally surprised and thought, "What is happening to me?"

:p

[transjen]

I rember when i was a kid the songs on the radio kicked a$$ and the hair bands ruled DEF LEPARD,POISION, WHITESNAKE,IRON MAIDEN,LITA FORD,GUNS AND ROSES
:yes: Jerseygirl Jen

[Jenae LaTorque]

Exactly! The majority of home computers are used for entertainment. They run Games, Internet (for email and Porn), play Video CD, DVD and music. I think I have covered all the general uses... Have I not?;)

Programming, Graphics, Web designing, Video & music editing ... are for boring Pros.:p

__________________________________________________ _______________

Nope, you forgot eBaying. Almost everyone I know with a computer uses it to shop and/or sell on eBay. And quite a few use if for other shopping as well. But that may just be because we all live out here in the boondocks of Wyoming.:lol:

[johndowe]

Hi there.

Sesame, there is nothing that canot be done with ASM that can be done with other languages, but some things,fvery few things are better the way they are programmed now, like web pages with HTML, XML, Perl, Java, JavaScript, and laymen do not program operating systems, games, or any applications, programmers do, and they are geeks, personally i am a cpu tech and we too are geeks, and object programing is the problem with programming today, everybody is too lazy to put in the effort so they take the easy path of object programing, which is required to symplify web page design, but not to program games or any application that runs directly from the o.s. (like games, text editors, ETC.).

Assembler which is assembled (similar to compiled) to machine language which is the native tongue of the processor, no interpretors or code libraries are required to run it, almost, it does need the o.s. and all the drivers etc. and it is so much more versatile than any other language the only limits of ASM are the limits of the computer it is designed to run on, contrarily to other "evolved" languages, that supports ALMOST everything programmers need, or more precicely what the programers of the language tought the users of their language would need, but what if you want to include something that the designers of the language you are using didn't program any support for? What do you do? You wait for the next version of the language? You could, but in "C" you can program in ASM to make your missing routines, ASM who knew?

ASM is the ultimate programming language, but it is not for the faint of heart, the lazy or second rate programmers, it is for true programers that are willing to put in the effort, who know their computers, who understand how their computer works and how to make it sing instead of making it stutter like microsoft, and most softwre company today, LAZY, LAZY, LAZY.

Got carried away again.

JohnDowe.

[sesame]

Assembler which is assembled (similar to compiled) to machine language which is the native tongue of the processor, no interpretors or code libraries are required to run it, almost, it does need the o.s. and all the drivers etc. and it is so much more versatile than any other language the only limits of ASM are the limits of the computer it is designed to run on, contrarily to other "evolved" languages, that supports ALMOST everything programmers need, or more precicely what the programers of the language tought the users of their language would need, but what if you want to include something that the designers of the language you are using didn't program any support for? What do you do? You wait for the next version of the language? You could, but in "C" you can program in ASM to make your missing routines, ASM who knew?

ASM is the ultimate programming language, but it is not for the faint of heart, the lazy or second rate programmers, it is for true programers that are willing to put in the effort, who know their computers, who understand how their computer works and how to make it sing instead of making it stutter like microsoft, and most softwre company todayJohnDowe.That was a very good answer. :respect:

But then, only a handful of geeks will have the privilege to work with computers, if they used only ASM. And even lesser will be the number of programmers willing to deal with ASM as the only language.

Consider the hazzard of bug fixing in ASM. And what Operating sys are you talking about? Obviously its not Windows or Linux? You must be thinking of DOS! And whats wrong with OOPs (object oriented prog)? Its such a versatile and dynamic concept created to deal with so many situations! Why dont you like it? You are paying too much attention to structure and stability.:rolleyes:

[johndowe]

Hi there.

Have you ever programmed in assembler?

There is no more hazzard in debuging in ASM than any other language, if anything it is easyer because of the 1:1 relationship from the source code to the program file, and there are ML (machine language) Monitors that are used to debug the code, and even program in ASM, a good example is "DEBUG" which is a ML Monitor, which IS still avaliable in my version of win xp sp2 upgraded to sp3+ unfortunately there are no assemblers for win xp & P4's+.

I do not hate object programing, as i said it is great in web page design, but in more involved programing it does make things easyer but it makes the gap between the programer and the processor that much grater which is not a good thing.

When i was in colege a long time ago in a galaxy far far away, or so it seems, i took a course in the basic language on a DEC PDP11 with DECWriter (printing) terminals, i programmed a little game i called "x-wing.bas", it was based on the final battle in Star Wars where Luke and the others go to destroy the Death Star, first there you had to destroy 20 tie fighters and then the Death Star, i programmed it not for everybody to see the listing and immidiately see how the program worked, i programmed it for the computer to "underatand" the program, most would call it spaghetti code, but it worked well and it did fit in the 8k of memory we had avaliable at the time, if i would have programmed like my teacher tought me, i never would have been able to fot it in the memory that i had, my point is i understood how the computer worked and i used it to my advantage and i did something that i shouldn't have been able to do with what i had, i used my brain and i did not rely on the language to do the work for me, i did the work and it paid off, so much so that i gave copies to some of my freinds, and later i saw it and two modifications, one was with Human against the Cylons and the other was about cops and robers, but the listing confirmed that it was my logics they only changed the text, they even left the 1 bug that i hadn't corrected when i gave them the copy of the game, i felt flattered that programing students would find my work worth keeping and worth the effort of modifying the text, while keeping MY logic intact.

If you know how to program in assembler, you can program in any other language all you need to know is the instructions and the syntax of the language and you're good to go, but it is a one way thing, if you can program in basic or pascal, you'll have to learn how to program in assembler, your knoledge of the other languages will help a but but no where near as much as assembler will help for other languages.

It is a sad thing that they have stopped teaching assembler to new programming students it would give them a much better understanding of the computers they are programming, and make them better programmers.

Structure and stability:

Stability is VERY important, do you like it when your computer crashes? While you were working on your report that was due in only a few hours? I don't think so.

In assembler there is no pre-established structure, you program it as you want, if you program well, you will reward yourself with easy to debug code, if you don't well good luck with the debugging, and mantaining of the code for future updates.

Also, if you made a sub routine in asm which you use frequently in that program and then later in the program you would only need the end part of that sub routine, in asm you just jump to that part of the subroutine and that's it, you don't have to make major modifications to the program or the subroutine, it is that simple.

If you want a code example ask me & i will specify 8086 or 6502 code.

JohnDowe.

[sesame]

Johndowe,
That was a nice speech on the goodness of ASM.
I did some programming in my childhood... during my Diploma.
That was quite some time ago. I started reading this ebook on extensive programming in ASM... then lost interest and gave up. Thats because nobody cared about an ASM programmer anymore. :p I did some sool stuff with Basic in those ancient times though.:D Then I Jumped to C and VB... Javascript, Actionscript... so on.

Reading your thoughts, I think I will give it another try; since you say that ASM is so fundamental for programming. The book is called:
The Art of Assembly.

I still remember small fragments of programming...
PUSH CS
MOV DX,80H
INT 10H:p
JZ GETHDB
JB BOOTUP and such like :D

[johndowe]

Hi there.

It is easyer to understand more complex concepts if you know the fundamentals.

And good luck with it.

You also can use DEBUG to do some thinkering in asm.

If you should find an assembler for pentium 4+ that works with XP+ let me know.

JohnDowe.

[sesame]

The DOS we use nowadays in Windows XP is not the same as it used to be. Its more like a servant of Windows. It's capabilities have been reduced, some commands have been excluded. But why do you think they have still kept DEBUG?

Can ASM cooperate with other softwares?

[johndowe]

Hi there.

Sesane, you seem to know a bit about ASM but you still have alot of mis-conceptions about it, all programs that are in .exe .dll and several others are in machine language for the processor to execute, the BIG difference between "C" and all its variants or Pascal and all its variants and ASM is that asm will ALWAYS be better programmed, so will an asm program "play nice" with other programs, the ansewer is yes, it will only not "play nice" with other programs if it is programmed to do so.

What i mean about asm is that it is very hard to program asm like an idiot, if you unassemble a program written in an "evolved" language you would see jumps that jump to the very next instruction in other words totally useless, the same for branches that branch to the very next instruction so it would go to the next instruction weather the branc is taken or not, also totally useless, and the program would be filled with such useless instructions. which take up both memory space and processor time, so what? 3-4 bytes here 8-10 clock cycles there who cares? Well if it was only once or twice a program, it wouldn't matter much, but it's not once or twice per program it's more like once every 10-20 bytes, it really adds up.

As an example i wrote a small (DOS/ASM) program that displayed the key codes from the keyboard, it displayed the ascii code, & the key code in hexadecimal and decimal, the program was also self explanatory if you typed it with a "/?", the whole program was about 1200 bytes, not that big is it? And i did all the hex and dec routines myself, then i borrowed a "c++" programing book, on the cd there was a keyboard scaner, like i the one i wrote, his didn't self explain it just wrote the letter and the scan code in decimal, mine was much more complete and functionnal, his was 33K's long programmed in "C++", mine was more functionnal gave more info, and was about 28 times smaller, and was MUCH faster, but since the program was waiting on keypresses the speed advantage was not visible, but it would have been at least 50 times faster, the same would be true for most programs, except for some of the more intricate graphics, size wize only, the speed might actually be even faster, because the graphic routines would be way more effective.

So a program is a program wheather(excuse my french) it is programmed in asm c or any other programing language, the thing is the one programmed in asm will be more much more compact will execute much faster, and wouldn't require "run time libraries" like many programs today.

But there a few dis-advantages to asm, 1'st it is as i first said, not for the faint of heart, second rate programmers can easily be weded out though, 2 it is easier to reverse engineer the code is usually quite clean, even if the programmer has a "spaghetti code" programing style, and 3, because of the symplicity and similarity of the instructions it can be easy to make logical errors that can be hard to find, but when you find them you feel like kicking yourself.

But i think the smaller program size and BLAZING speed greatly outweigh the dis-advantages, more so for operating systems and other computing intencive tasks.

JohnDowe.

[TracyCoxx]

I remember when my dad brought home a friend from work to show us the calculator he had :lol:

And quite a bit before that... I remember sitting in the back seat of the car, looking out the back window at the sun, and then looking out the side window and again seeing the sun, and wondering if there were two suns?

[Talvenada]

I remember when my dad brought home a friend from work to show us the calculator he had :lol:

And quite a bit before that... I remember sitting in the back seat of the car, looking out the back window at the sun, and then looking out the side window and again seeing the sun, and wondering if there were two suns?



I remember when Tracy Coxx didn't have a cock





in his avatar.

[sexchannel]

i remember when kfc was kentcky fried chicked , i cant recall when it became KFC ?

I remember opening a twitter account and about 5 minutes later thinking why bother ?

[johndowe]

Hi there.

I remember having my first internet and downloading at a whopping 7K per second.

And from 97 to 2003 it was free.

JohnDowe.

[sexchannel]

I remember when i started this thread ...... i was so young

[DSL]

I remembered i should have stayed away from that last drink.

[johndowe]

Hi there.

I remember that this was the start up screen of my cpu.

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JohnDowe.

[shadows]

I remember that. I was heavily involved in emergency planning for a cellular telephone company at that time. It was very thought provoking, to say the least, trying to come up with all possible scenarios. And then the big night and like you said Jen, nothing happened.

Well, at least we can all relive those moments once 2012 gets closer.;) There are a lot of people that really believe that the end of the world will happen then!:eek:

Myself, I think I will just enjoy the movie with the same name(2012). Life is too short to worry about something that no one has any control over anyhow.;)

[aw9725]

My first computer was a Commodore "VIC-20." It used a "cassette" recorder for data storage and hooked up to a TV. I would have been like 9 or 10. Wish I still had it just for fun! :(

The first "real" PC I had was an IBM "AT." This was based on the Intel "286" CPU and ran DOS 3.3. I later added a "287" math co-processor, an Intel "Above Board" memory card, and an "EGA" (not VGA) video adapter. Anyone remember any of this stuff? This is the computer I used through high school. It now sits in pieces on a shelf in my office.

Somewhere, in Junior High or early High School, I built a Radio Shack "kit" that could be programmed in Assembly language.

In college (Purdue), the first language I learned was Fortran. I already knew Basic and Pascal from messing around on my own. I also used "punched cards" for a simulation we did in a Probability and Decision Theory class. I picked up "C" on my own and by working with one of my professors. I used to have a copy of Kernigan & Ritchie somewhere.

The first programming class I taught was C++. Most of the classes I teach now involve "applications." For example, my Operations class uses Excel heavily. Mostly for things like inventory management and statistical quality control. I also teach Data Analysis which uses Oracle and Project Management which uses a variety of software packages.

Anyway, this post is probably getting boring, I should stop... :innocent:

Andrew

[aw9725]

Thought I'd share this ad for the "Vic." It features none other than Captain Kirk! :lol:

[randolph]

I remember when we WON wars! :yes:

[johndowe]

My first computer was a Commodore "VIC-20." It used a "cassette" recorder for data storage and hooked up to a TV. I would have been like 9 or 10. Wish I still had it just for fun! :(

The first "real" PC I had was an IBM "AT." This was based on the Intel "286" CPU and ran DOS 3.3. I later added a "287" math co-processor, an Intel "Above Board" memory card, and an "EGA" (not VGA) video adapter. Anyone remember any of this stuff? This is the computer I used through high school. It now sits in pieces on a shelf in my office.

Somewhere, in Junior High or early High School, I built a Radio Shack "kit" that could be programmed in Assembly language.

In college (Purdue), the first language I learned was Fortran. I already knew Basic and Pascal from messing around on my own. I also used "punched cards" for a simulation we did in a Probability and Decision Theory class. I picked up "C" on my own and by working with one of my professors. I used to have a copy of Kernigan & Ritchie somewhere.

The first programming class I taught was C++. Most of the classes I teach now involve "applications." For example, my Operations class uses Excel heavily. Mostly for things like inventory management and statistical quality control. I also teach Data Analysis which uses Oracle and Project Management which uses a variety of software packages.

Anyway, this post is probably getting boring, I should stop... :innocent:

Andrew

Hi there.

I remember, and i STILL have my C64, somewhere...

And i still hsve a 386, 486, P2, & Celeron CPU's of course i built most of them myself as a CPU tech, also had an XT and a 286 but they were left behind when i moved out of my ex wifes (our) apt.


JohnDowe.

[jodarling]

I remember when we WON wars! :yes:

I remember when you used to call em "Policing Actions" when you didn't win em.:cool:

[randolph]

Hi there.

I remember, and i STILL have my C64, somewhere...

And i still hsve a 386, 487, P2, & Celeron CPU's of course i built most of them myself as a CPU tech, also had an XT and a 286 but they were left behind when i moved out of my ex wifes (our) apt.


JohnDowe.

My first was a Radio Shack "color" computer. With a couple of friends we modified it to run two floppies and read an Eprom. We built battery powered data loggers for field use that recorded temperature data on the Eproms which then could be read by the computer. I prepared a series of little programs to analyze the data to provide the grower with information on high and low temperatures and day degree accumulations. We actually sold some of the units to citrus growers in the San Joaquin Valley in California. We eventually gave up because of the poor quality of the chips we had to buy from hobby suppliers since our needs for chips were such low volume. It was a fun project while it lasted, however.:yes:

[johndowe]

Hi there.

Was that a coco, or a coco2?

But good job on the mods, i also moded my C64, floppy drive and Joy sticks, but i didn't make any money with it.


JohnDowe.

[randolph]

Hi there.

Was that a coco, or a coco2?

But good job on the mods, i also moded my C64, floppy drive and Joy sticks, but i didn't make any money with it.


JohnDowe.

I don't remember the model. It was like a large keyboard with this large cartridge like interface slot on the right side. It had built in basic which was quite versatile. For a while many venders were making applications for it in the early 1980s. I think it had the same Motorola processor as the Apple.

[DSL]

Remember those old atari game back then i think the first game that came out was pong! i still play that and space invaders, missile command,
also remember the games called war games i think it was on the C64.

[shadows]

Remember those old atari game back then i think the first game that came out was pong! i still play that and space invaders, missile command,
also remember the games called war games i think it was on the C64.

I remember the game 'E.T.' for the 2600.;)

There was a game called 'Quest' or something like that that I had no frickin' idea what to do. One of the most confusing 2600(or any other system) games I have ever played. Needless to say I never completed it.

Pitfall 2, however, was one of my favourite 2600 games. I completed it a couple of times, just to see if there were any secret areas I had missed. Miles ahead of Pitfall 1 to be sure.:cool:

[johndowe]

I don't remember the model. It was like a large keyboard with this large cartridge like interface slot on the right side. It had built in basic which was quite versatile. For a while many venders were making applications for it in the early 1980s. I think it had the same Motorola processor as the Apple.

Hi there.

The apple series (pre mac & ;lisa) were based on the 6502 and later on the 65c02, while the coco, was based on the motorola 6800 series and the last one used the 6809, which at the time was one if not the best 8bit cpu.

PS the LISA was upgraded to become the (old) mac.


JohnDowe.

[The Conquistador]

I rember when i was a kid the songs on the radio kicked a$$ and the hair bands ruled DEF LEPARD,POISION, WHITESNAKE,IRON MAIDEN,LITA FORD,GUNS AND ROSES
:yes: Jerseygirl Jen

Yes!!! I liked this music alot better than the Third Eye Blind and Tal Bachman that I heard in school.

[The Conquistador]

I remember my first gaming system was Atari and soon after we upgraded to CollecoVision.:yes: Qbert was the shit!!!

[shadows]

I remember my first gaming system was Atari and soon after we upgraded to CollecoVision.:yes: Qbert was the shit!!!

I remember playing The Smurfs on CollecoVision.:D

[tslust]

I remember when there wasn't snow on the ground, green grass, blue skies; wait, no I can't.:):lol:

[moonvisage]

I remember when the Banana Splits was first shown on tv.The arabian knights was brilliant,an so many kids use to do the '' Size of an elephant! '',reference to their cocks,with their pants still on of course.